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Coordinates? I'm sure he's proud of your efforts.

You could change it to "StillChurchCampDave". That'd be funny when you tell people that give you hassle that you changed it just for them.

Yes, on Windows and Linux, updating Firefox to 1.5 from 1.0.7 (you can see your version by opening the Help menu and selecting "About (Mozilla) Firefox") will move the tabs down from behind the text appropriately.

Don't underestimate the inquisitive nature of an 8-yr old. You will be able to read their level of interest though and allow that to dictate how intense you want the projec t to be. I don't think the GPS project I suggested above would take too much time or hassle, but you can leave a lot of it up to your kid. See if they can brainstorm a question that they want to answer, whether it's GPS-related or not. That's often the best way to get a project started with them, since they should do the work to get the most out of it and so it should be something that they're interested in (so it doesn't feel or become you pulling them through it). Once they come up with a question, help them edit it to something that will take some time, but will still be a tractable problem for them to solve.

Yah, this one was brought up a day or two ago when it first starting hitting the national newswire...and a few weeks/months ago when it first happened.

Please note that good science teachers will tell you that for a science fair project, you should follow the scientific process to answer a question: 1) Research/ Hypothesis 2) Design/Experiment 3) Results/Analysis 4) Conclusion/Check Hypothesis When I was in school I would often be one of the top projects in the class (and won a few county awards too). My projects were questions like "Which metals are magnetic?" and "Which insulation type holds the most heat?" (this one won the Baltimore Gas & Electric Best Energy Project Award in the County Fair that year). So to use GPS for a science project for an 8 year old, something as simple as "Can a GPS receiver tell me my coordinates anywhere?" might be appropriate. Research would entail finding info in books ("Fun with GPS", "GPS for Dummies", and "Idiot's Guide to Geocaching" might help), websites ( try http://www.trimble.com/gps ...I wasn't able to view their Shockwave files from Linux), and other sources like pop-science periodicals or other mass media articles that define how GPS works. Using this info, your 8-yr old should be able to decide an answer to the question of whether the GPSr can get a satellite signal anywhere or not..and if not, then what places might he expect to lose the signal or keep the signal. Experimental design is then testing this hypothesis by going to the locations hypothesized about and trying to get a signal or find an object geocaching-style that you suggest to him and see if he can report the coordinates. You can try things inside tents (porous material that might actually let a signal through), evergreen forested areas, open fields, inside the mall/buildings, inside the house, in the car, and so on. Analysis of the results should let him determine what effects each of the different environments had on his ability to gain signal lock. Is there a common element that comes out from the data. Maybe not only did he get a signal lock, but record how many satellites each time and how strong the bar was on the GPSr screen for each satellite (guesstimate a bit here in percentages or define them as (locked and high, locked and medium, locked and low, unlocked and variable, no signal)). Finally, draw conclusions. How good were his hypotheses. Was he able to accurately predict GPSr grabbing a signal in all cases? What surprises did he run into (like the tent/car)? Can he explain the difference between the center of the house and being near the window signal changes? What does that mean about where the satellites are relative to the house? What future experiments might be possible based on what he's learned? What about places where the sky is blocked by large mountains all around or downtown buildings in a large city? How can the GPS system be improved locally to those places based on what he knows about the GPS system now and what the signals do and how they reach the GPSr? EDIT: Saw Dino Hunters posted too, just wanted to say that I am not commenting on their project with my suggestions.

The point is that there will be both types of finding going on...one like virtual geocaching, one like the locationless caches. In fact, 3 different activities will be captured by one site: 1) There will be people interested in organizing categories of specific waymarks (waypoints) that highlight something of interest to them. (this covers the archetype of 'locationless cache placer') 2) There will be people who, like FTF hounds, will scour their regions looking for waypoints to add to the different categories that they're interested in (and probably plenty they aren't). (this covers the archetype of 'locationless cache finder') 3) There will be people who use the database of points and categories created by the first two archetypes to go hunting for interesting things around them that they didn't know existed or that they are interested in knocking off of a checklist (ala geocaching). (this covers the archetype of 'virtual cache finder') The only paradigm shift is that Archetype #2 ('locationless cache finder') now also becomes the role for 'virtual cache placer' as well. But, like it or not, that's essentially what was going on at GC.com anyways, although the locationless to capture the virtual cache may not have existed yet or the virtual cache placers thought they were being more clever than a locationless cache finder. It sounds like you're more likely to appreciate the role of #3 better and that is going to have to wait until there are more entries in your area, I guess...then again, the items that fit even the current categories are out there in your area...if you like FTFs, you might try role #2 and go searching for items in your area that haven't been listed yet in categories that interest you (and probably even some that don't).

I think you need to update your verson of Firefox. Firefox 1.0 through 1.0.7 would give you the reminder to update when a new Firefox version was release, but 1.0.7 stopped doing that. Since then, Firefox 1.5 has been released and fixes a number of bugs in Firefox that prevent the correct rendering of the latest CSS (cascading style sheet) formatting. This is why your profile pages do not look right. Update your Firefox ( http://www.getfirefox.com ) and all will be right again. Just install it on top of the old version and you'll keep all of your customizations but benefit from all of the bug fixes between 1.0.7 and 1.5.

From the release notes: The Travel bug distance calculation has changed. Jeremy, can you please elaborate on this change? What exactly is different now? Just curious, because I have a relatively long-lived TB and I'm wondering what will be different about its mileage now.

If only I was running Linux I will try to get this fixed though. Ok, just to reassure you, I can not reproduce the formatting issue in Windows on Firefox 1.5. So it is some sort of Linux specific problem with rendering the gallery, I guess.

Here's a fun bit of oddity...if I navigate away from the page and then use the back button to return to my gallery page, the page renders correctly. If I refresh the page or navigate to it directly, the last row of images (of a full page of thumbnails) gets cut in half by the bottom of the framing area. This is reproducible.

Firefox 1.5 now on Linux...fixed the tabs at the top (broke all of my symbolic links for my browser software...so now I have to fix everything to the new Firefox since 1.0.7 came with my school's flavor of FC2...). But the problem I bring to you now: My Gallery page does not display correctly. The 5th row of images is cut in half by the bottom border of the framing box around the profile. I'm not sure if this is because I have a handful of taller-than-wide images in the gallery or because of something else in the html.

Firefox 1.0.7 on Linux pushes the pretty tabs up underneath of the blue text above them and makes it impossible to use them correctly.

I'd be willing to send El Diablo a modified version of the photoshop that is my avatar, if I were to win. It'd be highly conducive to carving. Just in case that was keeping anyone for voting for me...I doubt that it was.

I think the problem that is beginning to occur in this thread is that those of you asking for us to abide by what Mr. Muro has written are not reading what was written and placing it in the larger context. Mr. Muro believes the problem is a use of an "identifying trinket" in what was relayed to him as a game we play. Unfortunately, he was fed bad information from the office of a politician in SC which biased him (I'll get to this in a minute). In actuality, it's not an "identifying trinket". It's a GPSr, a tool for the determination of geographic location. If we were going to national cemetaries and placing some sort of site tag or mini-stuffed animal on the gravestone for pictures, then his complaint may have some merit as at least then it'd be solely used as a "I found this spot!" marker, but the tool is important in determining location, accuracy, and precision of the information so that future interested persons can locate any of the Medal of Honor recipients. This information is already stored by Mr. Muro's own website (in the form of Cemetary Directory-style information, "3rd row of Block B", as opposed to geographic coordinates). The pictures help validate the information and is done respectfully, similar to CSI units when they insert their info markers at a homicide and take pictures...no one questions their respect for the dead. So, his contention that waymarkers are disrespecting the deceased in his cemetaries by using "identifying trinkets" on and around gravestones is simply factually incorrect. That gets back to my earlier comment that I will expand on now... Fortunately, Mr. Muro tells us the source of his alert to our activities: A staff member of Ms. Ceips (R - SC State Legislature). I'm sure someone can provide a link to the first time we encountered Ceips and her actions towards turning geocaching into an illegal activity in SC. Unfortunately, she has taken pictures far out of context, lied about certain allegations against geocaching, and ignored repeated attempts to fix her faulty assumptions and rhetoric. SC Geocachers were caught unready for the most part and Ceips bill was able to get through the first stages of legislature on the backs of lies and deception to tug at the heartstrings of the representatives and to thereby keep us from disgracing the treasures of South Carolina (as she put it). I do not remember what the second legislative body in SC resolved to do with her bill (tabled indefinitely, was it?) but the issue hasn't come up again in the forums at least...until now. Now, it seems that they are trying to ellicit federal resolve against geocaching (particularly when it comes to graveyards). My guess is that Mr. Muro's comments are a prelude to a greater action that would side with Ceips' views and provide further ammo for her bill ... albeit ammo gained through more lies and deceit to Mr. Muro (as I'm sure the Ceips staffer was not fair about his treatment of "Waymarking" in feeding Mr. Muro such incorrect and biased commentary like "trinkets"). While it may or may not be some constitutional right to take a picture of an item in frame with a gravestone in a public cemetary, I hope this topic and any correspondence with Mr. Muro reflects the greater context of what is going on here. We have and will do no harm in the national cemetaries as we pay our respects to these veterans, just as has been the case in South Carolina. The misinformation originating from Ceips must be quelched by the truth of our actions in these sensitive locations and our continued participation at these locations in manners befitting of their sensitive nature, as we have always done.

I can not speak to the primary motivation of this waymark category owner's requirement (it may very well be just a "game" requirement as verification that the picture was not a stock photo). But, I can tell you that if the purpose is to record the geographic location a picture is taken, then I am more ready to believe the coordinates given by the person who shows me a picture with their GPSr in frame than without. Even if I can not read the GPSr, I know that they were there with it at the location and that is more evidence to the idea that their coordinates are correct than the other person's claimed coordinates and evidence of just the gravestone. It is also true that the "game" brought someone to the gravestone and as such it becomes an integral part of why they've chosen to pay their respects to a fallen hero. There's no reason why that aspect of their visit shouldn't be recorded as a context in which to place the visitor's honorable actions.

Mr. Muro, It would seem that permanently etching Pentagon slogans into our fallen's military gravestones is a tad more dishonorable than the temporary placement and photographing of a geolocator for informational purposes. Pentagon Slogans Placed on Troops' Tombstones - Unlike those of earlier wars, nearly all Arlington National Cemetery gravestones for troops killed in Iraq or Afghanistan are inscribed with the sloganlike operation names the Pentagon selected to promote public support for the conflicts... In fact, even though families are told that they have final approval over the inclusion of the slogans, that has not always happened. One family was interviewed for the article and did not want the slogan on their son's tombstone and it was there regardless.

There must be some way to leash Ceips and her manipulative watchdogs. She (and/or her staff) continue to trump up innocent and honorable activities to denegrate and villify us unfairly. I have GPS locations for nearly all of my family that is no longer with us (including military graves for those family members who served). Some day when my future grandchildren want to know about their family (or even when they don't), I'll be able to tell them stories about the ones that I knew and the ones that I heard about and then give them the list of locations and they will be able to spend their own moments with their long gone ancestors. There is nothing wrong with cataloging these things and the only way to be certain of the information is by photograph. If any of my military relatives were to have received or will receive the Medal of Honor and thereby be worthy of a waymark in this category, I'd consider it a reward that not only would their final resting place be known for myself and my family, but that others would also know of their location if they so chose to pay respects. Isn't it the position of the Department of Veteran Affairs that our war veterans are all too often *not* given the respect by the public that they so rightfully deserve? Even if a picture with a GPSr device (whose only purpose is to define global location) were to be considered dishonorable, isn't the reward of bringing that grave to the attention of the rest of the Waymarking public worth far more than the minor impropriety? In other words, doesn't the reward of hundreds of honorable acts of respect solely resulting due to a single, non-permanent, dishonorable act make that act worthwhile in actuality? Unfortunately, I have a feeling that the "evidence" brought to the Director's attention was biased and dishonest given the source to which it has been attributed. I am worried that the Director has been played for a patsy in the South Carolina representative's political games. Namely, this now becomes another feather in their cap when they show another "outraged manager" who is "offended" at our activities in graveyards of the most somber nature...when in actuality it is our level of somber respect that brings us to globally highlight these men of honor who have served our country to the fullest extent possible. We are taking nothing more than a reading of their geographic location and we are leaving more pride and respect for their actions in service to our country than most citizens ever even give a first thought towards. If that is a serious offense and dishonorable act, then somehow I have really gone astray in all that I've ever been taught about honor and dignity.

You need to be a little more clear about what you're asking. "Post a Note" with the content of the note saying "this cache needs to be archived" only goes to the owner and cache page. The site admin and volunteers will not get any special notice that you wrote it. "Should Be Archived" entries will be sent to owner and site volunteers who may or may not act without speaking to the cache owner first. Either way, both result in a displayed entry on the cache page.

Funny, you must be reading the TC.forums instead of this one. I scroll up in this thread and don't see a single post that is even remotely like what you claim. Funny...you've forgotten how to read for comprehension. I didn't say any of it happened in this topic, just that the quippy and non-responsive posts Thrak got were the results of a common mindset in these forums that sees the word "Terracaching" and pounces on the utterer out of principle rather than respond with any utility.

Bad form? In the context of Company A ("...is it the same as geocaching...")? Hardly. If you went to a McDonalds-based forum and said "I just heard about a Whopper. Is the Whopper the same thing as a Big'n'Tasty?", that's hardly bad form. Most people start from what they know and try to understand new ideas in that frame of reference (even if the Big'n'Tasty could be considered a late entry substitute for the more established Whopper).

You got responses from the half-dozen forum junkies who preemptively declare GC.com the best site ever and didn't even take 20 seconds to read your post and notice that a question like "is it the same thing as geocaching" means you don't know anything about Terracaching. If GPSax rang in to tell you about how you should e-mail AngryKid (the owner of Terracaching.com)...then you would have finished the full GC.com-fanboy gauntlet. Now, to answer your question(s): Terracaching is another site that lists geocaches. It is the same activity as what's housed here at Geocaching.com run by different people. They use a different system of approval for their listings and also keep a score/tally for your efforts in the game (seperate scores for hiding/finding and the cache gets a find-score and user rating evaluation by the site users too). This results in some awarding that also keep the game fun with a hint of competition. You should really check it out for yourself at http://www.terracaching.com though to see if it interests you. Quite a few people geocache using both sites for their different approaches to the game.

Call the feds...you might get the other person arrested for annoying you. Of course, this brings up the question of how you bust someone who doesn't identify themselves? (yes, i know about ip's)

Those of us that don't drink the blue kool-aid call that a "problem". It is all part and parcel of the larger problem of getting Groundspeak to play nicely with others in the geocaching community when it concerns *our* data...as you same people are so apt to defend. In other words, he didn't remove gc.com data from his maps, he removed everyone's data from his maps (because he's no longer able to agree to the extensive terms gc.com mandates if he's to get it through them). If we each put our cache data up on our own websites and told Ed how to get it from there in an efficient way for him, then all of the caches would suddenly appear on his maps again. If countries outside of the US have a hard time figuring out a better mapping solution than Buxley's, then they should band together and copy their data, that they allow GC.com to hold, to a location that Ed can harvest it from.

Thanks, Jeremy (see how easy that was, GPSax/MM/COAd). I'm curious to find out if it's something as simple as having the year hard-coded into his site (since this seemed to happen right about 1/1/06). I did send Ed an e-mail as well when I saw his site drop the GC.com caches and am waiting on that response too.