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The page describing souvenirs mentions you can get a souvenir if you log a cache while in a "souvenir zone". It does not mention how to determine if you are in a souvenir zone.
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An update to this tread.
I just bought a new I Phone and I can say the tilt correction while navigating to a cache works. If you are navigating to a cache move the phone as held in your hand from the horizontal the compass will revert to a north orientation display. If you bring the phone back to a horizontal position and tilt it slightly upward the asthma is displayed correctly. With the newer phone that correction is instantaneously.
With luck maybe someday Apple will understand what an asthma is used for a correct the software.
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Thank you for confirming the theses. I have been trying to get through to Apple about this for a couple of years but I don't thing there is sole out there that has any idea what an azimuth is.
You do not have to HOLD the phone upright once the azimuth has been set to the correct direction. Just lift the top edge to about 30 degrees to correct it and you will see the azimuth correct itself. Once corrected it will hold that direction as long as you are holding the phone level. It will fail again if you change the phone orientation from level, as if you dropped your hand to your side while walking.
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On 8/17/2019 at 9:12 PM, kunarion said:
I tried it this afternoon. I am consistently able to duplicate the Official App's 180-degree compass effect on my iPhone 8. If I'm navigating by compass to a cache, and if I tip the phone up from horizontal in any direction, the arrow (and the compass dial) immediately flips either 90 or 180 degrees off, pointing elsewhere and stays that way when I return the phone to horizontal. This jumping effect is very jarring. The App does not play nice with the internal accelerometers. The compass with its directional arrow "jump" together to the new direction. So the arrow is correct, the entire compass has shifted from its proper alignment. I can then try any calibration trick I like (figure of eight, or even just tipping the front of the phone toward vertical again), and the compass jumps back to its place. It will remain in its incorrect alignment unless I take action. I have to at least tip the phone again to get things back to normal.
I think you have proven my theory on this subject that I posted on another tread on this forum
I may have found the answer. Try this and please post your results.
What I found was once an azimuth has been set on the phone and you start towards the cache I have a tendency to drop the phone down by my side while walking. When the phone was brought back up to view and held parallel to the ground the direction would be 90 or 180 degrees off. If you find this happening and while holding the phone parallel to the ground lift the top edge of the phone skyward. As you lift the top edge at about 30 degrees you will see the azimuth return to the correct direction. Don't ask me why but all the testing I have done causes it to correct itself. This works if the azimuth is off by 90 degrees to the left or right and also if it is off by 180 degrees.
I would ask another cacher to test this out and post their results.
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I just tried what i think you were describing in your first paragraph.
I set an azimuth to a cache. Then while holding the phone horizontally raised the top edge of he phone upward. That had no effect on the azimuth. However if I rolled the phone on its side the screen deflected 90 degrees and remained off when I returned to phone to the horizontal. Again as I raised the top edge of the phone upward the screen corrected.
Every test I have conducted today when the screen has been locked and the azimuth off has been corrected by just lifting the top edge of the phone upward.
In one of my many conversations with Apples Customer Service today we discussed this issue. As it happened the Apple rep knew about caching and said he would run some experiments after work. While he can not get back to me directly one my original issue was resolved he assured me that if he could duplicate my theory he would advise the engineers.
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Below is a copy of what I think is a solution. It has worked after several tests.
Aug 17 2019
I don't think this tread or the problem is limited to the I Phone SE since several have commented on having issues with later model I Phones.
Yes I had an I Phone 5 that worked great for some time. I first noticed the problem after a software update on the I Phone 5, I had been using 10.3.1. Since I had skipped a few updates I can't saw for sure which update actually introduced the navigation problems. I can say it has existed ever since the update of the 5 and as long as I have been using the 6S.
After my call to Apple yesterday I realized that the I Phone might be re-calibrating the compass depending on the phones orientation. With that in mind I tested this theory several times. When it became predictable as to what would happen each time I would drop the phone to my side and then bring it back up for observation the azimuth would be off. Not sure how I discovered that simply lifting the top edge of the phone towards the vertical it would correct the azimuth.
Duplication is the accepted testing of a theory
All I ask is for another cacher that is having the navigation problem of the I Phone not holding an azimuth while heading towards a cache try what I have described above and comment.
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I have emailed several of the posters to this tread and asked them to test the theory.
I will say I just went out for a test and got a First To Find and a second cache with out a hitch.
They are the first caches I have been able to successfully use the phone for since the I first encountered the problem.
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I can't speak to your comments as I have never placed the phone in sleep mode or opted out of the app while heading towards a cache.
Once I place the app in a navigation mode and start waling towards the cache I have a tenancy to drop my arm, phone in hand, to my side. Once I lift the phone up for another view the azimuth may be off as I know what direction I was walking and the phone now saw I am 90 to 180 degrees off.Since there is no figure 8 function in the newer phones, the re-calibration is automatic I have been looking for an answer.
The instinctive action when viewing a lensatic compass is to hold it level as the needle has to set on the pin to function. That may have been my problem all along if the I Phone is re-calibrating to every new position.
I will add that Cachly has a similar problem in that it will not hold an azimuth if you touch the face of the phone while walking towards the cache. I don't think this is a compass problem as much as a conflict within the Cachly software with Apples use of multi finger gestures. Again this problem with Cachly came after an Apple update and adopted additional multi finger gestures to the phones. Lets test the Geocaching app problem before going off on another tangent.
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I don't think this tread or the problem is limited to the I Phone SE since several have commented on having issues with later model I Phones.
Yes I had an I Phone 5 that worked great for some time. I first noticed the problem after a software update on the I Phone 5, I had been using 10.3.1. Since I had skipped a few updates I can't saw for sure which update actually introduced the navigation problems. I can say it has existed ever since the update of the 5 and as long as I have been using the 6S.
After my call to Apple yesterday I realized that the I Phone might be re-calibrating the compass depending on the phones orientation. With that in mind I tested this theory several times. When it became predictable as to what would happen each time I would drop the phone to my side and then bring it back up for observation the azimuth would be off. Not sure how I discovered that simply lifting the top edge of the phone towards the vertical it would correct the azimuth.
Duplication is the accepted testing of a theory
All I ask is for another cacher that is having the navigation problem of the I Phone not holding an azimuth while heading towards a cache try what I have described above and comment.
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I may have found the answer. Try this and please post your results.
What I found was once an azimuth has been set on the phone and you start towards the cache I have a tendency to drop the phone down by my side while walking. When the phone was brought back up to view and held parallel to the ground the direction would be 90 or 180 degrees off. If you find this happening and while holding the phone parallel to the ground lift the top edge of the phone skyward. As you lift the top edge at about 30 degrees you will see the azimuth return to the correct direction. Don't ask me why but all the testing I have done causes it to correct itself. This works if the azimuth is off by 90 degrees to the left or right and also if it is off by 180 degrees.
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I had just posted the following tread yesterday and I found this tread today. So i have added my comments here. Many have commented this started about 2 years ago. I agree. I think it was when an update in software replaced 10.3.3
There was a time when I could go caching using my I Phone and have expectations of success. Not any more.
For a long time my phone would accept an azimuth and take me to a cache. However now it will accept the azimuth and start towards the cache. But when I get close to the cache the screen freezes and generally points 90 degrees off the cache. I can work around this problem if there is a road displayed on the map. If I am in the woods or on a field, dead in the water. If I continue walking in the original direction the distance measurement will continue to drop. If I follow the direction displayed on the phone it takes me away from the cache. I have not found a way to get the Phone to re accept the azimuth and point towards the cache.
I think this has something to do with when Apple started using 3 digit gestures to control some app functions. What ever it is it has made the phone useless for Geo Caching.
I have contacted Apple several times but have not found anyone that has any idea of the concept of navigating using a compass or directional device. Several letters to Tim Cook also have proved useless. Bit if others want to write him that may get them off dead center.
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There was a time when I could go caching using my I Phone and have expectations of success. Not any more.
For a long time my phone would
accept an azimuth and take me to a cache. However now it will accept the azimuth and start towards the cache. But when I get close to the cache the screen freezes and generally points 90 degrees off the cache. I can work around this problem if there is a road displayed on the map. If I am in the woods or on a field, dead in the water. If I continue walking in the original direction the distance measurement will continue to drop. If I follow the direction displayed on the phone it takes me away from the cache. I have not found a way to get the Phone to re accept the azimuth and point towards the cache.
I think this has something to do with when Apple started using 3 digit gestures to control some app functions. What ever it is it has made the phone useless for Geo Caching.
I have contacted Apple several times but have not found anyone that has any idea of the concept of navigating using a compass or directional device.
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While this may be off topic I will ask it because I started this topic and have continuing interest.
I do not get any type of notification when a new reply is posted to this tread. My settings are set to " A notification when new content is posted"
Any ideas?
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I doubt this is a Bug Problem. Bugs don't cause whole features to just stop. I am more inclined to suspect this is a money problem. Google is all about money flowing towards Google. I am thinking Google has finally suggested to Geo. that they kick over some money to continue the feature. The money that moves around behind the scenes of the internet is beyond belief. While that money is accounted for in the third or forth decimal place it does add up.
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You speak of multiple forums. Can you give a URL for them? Maybe with your clearer understanding of the issue you might post to the forums on our behalf.
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Would letting the Mother Ship know of the problem have any results as they might be able to contact Google with more Umpf than we could?
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I deleted Viewing Geocaches on Google Earth and reinstalled it as per the instruction. Still no caches show on Google Earth.
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How do i find an open topics I posted yesterday?
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I no longer see caches on Google Earth when I have selected to see them. I stopped that function last week when I want to see more map details. Now when I attempt to turn it back on nothing happens.
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Can someone give me detailed instructions of how to add a PQ to my I phone 6s and how to cause it to open. I can work in cachly or geocaching format. I have the PQ on my windows computer.
I would like to load a PQ of virtauls for a quick search while traveling.
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6 minutes ago, Team Christiansen said:
That would lead me to believe you don't own the trackable. But if you do, I am out of suggestions. There are so many in the forums that are much more tech-savy then me. If nothing else, contact Groundspeak and ask for assistance.
This leads be to believe I own the trackable.
- Owner:
- acachebox Message this owner
- Recently Spotted:
- In the hands of the owner.
The owner hasn't set their collectible preference.
Use TB82XAJ to reference this item.
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5 minutes ago, thebruce0 said:
Or a shorter version to remember more easily: http://geocaching.com/hiddencreatures
I have bookmarked the sight and hopefully it will collect caches as I find them. May have to go out tomorrow as a test
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2 minutes ago, Team Christiansen said:
Then click on "Edit This Trackable" and check the Make This Trackable Collectable box, then submit the changes. After that, "Move to Collection" will be visible. I may have failed to mention in my first post that this is a 2-step process.
The options your are suggesting do not appear on my Computer. Does this have to be done on my I Phone?
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3 minutes ago, Team Christiansen said:
After you have selected "Move to Collection" go back to your dashboard. There should be 4 trackable categories: owned, inventory, logs, and collection. Your trackable will be listed in both owned and collection, but should no longer be listed in inventory.
The item I am attempting to move shows up in Trackable Items and Trackable Inventory but not in Collectables
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Compass points wrong direction
in Official Geocaching® apps
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I hope those who had this issue will get this post.
I finally got through to an Apple software type and had a lengthily conversation. He was able to duplicate the problem as I described it and was convinced it should be forwarded to engineering. Continuing our conversation he came up with the idea it might have something to do with the screen rotation feature, which was adopted, just after the time frame I said the problem started. Turns out the screen rotation feature can be lock off. We each locked that feature and the problem stopped.
Depending on what version I Phone you have you can lock the screen rotation feature off while caching.
That is a feature that each developer can also lock in their software and Apple may advise Ground Speak to consider including that in a revision.