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Thanks - I do use my iPhone sometimes as a backup, but really when ice fishing and regular fishing, I would rather have something that is solid and I don’t have to baby like a phone. I think the accuracy of the new Garmin GPS, especially might be better too, although not sure.

Thanks - I don’t know why, but I like the idea of the Montana 700i or 700. I like the idea of the screen size. Wish I could see one before ordering, but no one around me has anything on display. Guess I can order from Garmin and if I don’t like it, send it back. Just hate doing that. Appreciate everyone’s help.

Now I just noticed the Montana 700 Series. That looks very cool and would love that screen when ice fishing or on the boat.

So, bottom line is everyone saying I should the Oregon 750t or Montana 680t? Is Garmin due for a new Oregon to come out soon?

Thanks - why is the Oregon 7x0 more capable than the Montana 6x0? Does it have a newer operation into system than Montana? Thought maybe the Montana would be better, since it has better screen and has rechargeable batteries too. Also - never had problem with cold weather on my Oregon 450. Now I see Oregon 750t for $299 and Montana 680t for $349.

My Oregon 450t is now getting a line in the front of the display, so guess time for a new one. I mainly use it for fishing and ice fishing to mark spots. I see Cabela’s has the Montana 680t for $350 on Black Friday and Amazon has the Oregon 750t for $350 too. Any recommendations on which one I should go with? Thanks!

Thanks - that is good to know. It sounds like for my use marking fishing spots and then returning to them, I am better of just keeping the 450, especially if it is more stable. Appreciate the help.

Thanks everyone for the help and honest opinions. I did have a just to check some out in person yesterday at Cabela's. Next time I will take my unit too, to do some comparisons. Displays might be a little brighter and probably faster, but I was also looking to see it they had better accuracy, which sounds like they don't. Seems like I might be better off to stick with the 450 until it dies or somehow technology really changes. Suprised they have not made the GPS units more phone like with better, brighter, larger and thinner screens. But, then I guess they would not be as indestructable.

Was considering upgrading from my Oregon 450. I use it mostly for marking spots and routing for fishing. Anything worth of upgrading and would I get even more precise locations? Looked at an Oregon 750 and see they are also releasing a 66 soon too. Any advice would be appreciated, even if it is just keeping what I have. It is funny how old looking my screen looks. Hoping the new ones look better, but hard to tell my looking at specs. Thanks!

Do you find te 700 more accurate than the 450? Thanks! I can supply many reasons why you'll enjoy your 700 over the 450. I'm a 450 to 600 convert, and on occasion when I'm forced to use my 450, I really miss the new features that the 600 introduce, most of them carry over to the 700. 1. The user defined extra button. That right there is the number one feature that makes the 600 and 700 superior to all other GPS models. It's so convenient to have 3 custom assignments to that button, plus two to the power button. 2. The brighter screen. I thought the 450's screen was just fine until I used the 600. Even without the backlight turned on it's much more readable in the shade. 3. The glass touch screen. Some users prefer the old pressure sensitive touch screen. I don't. The new screen is much more responsive and the multi touch features, though limited, are useful. 4. Custom shortcuts. Set one up and with the touch of a button (or tap of the screen), accomplish what you could in a series of page and menu options. The 700 has a new user interface that looks intriguing. And its compatibility with Garmin Connect may be useful. Point is, the new oregons are very capable devices and the live geocaching feature is only one feature that makes it great, but it's not THE defining feature of the GPS. It'll get fixed. Until then, explore what else your new 700 can do.

Ok - that makes sense. They can still make them with much better screens and much easier to use - more modern. I wish Apple would design a GPS unit - then we would have something. For starters, there's a solid reason for the fact that a typical purpose built GPS isn't as thin as a typical smart phone -- the size of commonly available batteries. Frankly, I'm always happy to know that A: I can replace my GPS cells with two others should they become depleted, and B: that I can replace them with any old AA I can find in a pinch, and in both cases, do so in the field, not on a workbench with tiny tools. Given the larger dimensions and low cost of all but custom lithium packs, don't expect a GPS to look like a smart phone any time soon. And that's OK with me.

I use an iPhone 5s and Garmin 450T and I don't notice any difference between the two in accuracy. The iPhone is definitely easier to use with a much better, clearer, brighter screen. The 450t screen is hard to see in direct sunlight. I use both for fishing and marking spots and it is great how the Navionics app can be used for the iPhone for a relatively cheap price with excellent maps, while the 450t is very pricey to get any lake maps, which are just ok. I also much prefer the larger screen of the iPhone and the slimmer profile. I use a LifeProof case, which makes it completely waterproof. I think GPS companies need to make their GPS units more like iPhones or the new Sony Z3's - i.e. thinner profiles, better sceens and better usability and faster response times. My 450t feels like it is in the stone ages with the look, feel, and technology.

I have a Garmin 450t and tend to agree with you about Garmin. I don't think the user interface is that bad, but the accuracy is not very good. I use mine for marking fishing spots and geocaching. Last week, I was on a week long fishing trip and had spots marked on the Garmin and my iPad with the Navionics App. We marked our hot fishing spots in the lake with a marker and also on the Garmin and iPad. The iPad was far more accurate everytime - just about dead on. The Garmin was within 30 feet of the marked spot. I would much rather use the Garmin, as it is smaller and can take a beating more than an iPad. But, I don't have any faith in it and will probably end up selling it on ebay.

I just had the opposite experience, where the Delorme PN60 was more accurate the Garmin 62s and Oregon 450t (PN60 was closest to 7 out of the 10 caches). I would take any of the three though and all of them had their pluses and minuses. I read a lot of good reviews on the PN60 so I bought one. First time purchase and very new to Geocaching. I used my son's Garmin GPSMAP 62st and there was no comparison. The Delorme seemed to have trouble finding satellites, did not work well under trees(I don't mean a heavy forrest, but some trees) and the electronic compass bounced all over the place. I would be walking towards the cache(I thought) and instantly the compass would shift 180 degrees and head me in the opposite direction/. I recalibated to no avail. This was my first trip with it today and I was very disappointed, especially after seeing how my son's unit worked(liked it is supposed to). Lost confidence real quick on the PN60. Packed it up and shipped it back to Amazon - looking again. Maybe a bad unit - don't know, but opted for refund instead of exchange.

I just went through a similar exercise and got to field test 3 units, Delorme PN-60, Garmin 450t and Garmin 62s. We went to 10 different geocache hunts and the Delorme PN-60 was the most accurate (brought us closet to the cache 7/10 times). The other 3 times it was not first, it was still very close. The 62s was the second most accurate and the Oregon 450 was the least (not far behind the 62s though). However, even though the Delorme was the most accurate at locating the caches, I wished it had a bigger screen and the software that comes with the Garmin is much more user friendly, especially on a Mac. The Oregon 450t was the easiest to use and I like the screen better on that one too. Sometimes the Delorme would be within 10 or less feet of the Cache and the others would be 20 plus feet away. I got to play around with the Magellan 710 last week at Bass Pro and loved the maps that came with the unit and screen seemed really nice too. Would love to est that model out too. Anyhow, hopefully that hopes, none of the above is scientific, just my experience with the units. I actually like all of them and their are pluses/minuses with each unit.

I like the Delorme's too - just testing one. Wishes would be that they would make a bigger screen and that it was easier to use on a Mac.

When I compared the 62s to the 450, I thought the screen on the 450 was noticeably dimmer? Maybe, the place I tested it had it setup that way? I actually like the way the 62s feels in my hand - feels more rugged than the 450. I did think the 450 seemed easier to use and did like both units.

I got the Delorme PN-60 for $190 after rebate from EMS and also the Garmin 62s for $269 at GPScity. Now have to decide which one to keep!

Hello - on Black Friday, I was not sure what gps to buy, so I ended up buying the Garmin 62s and Delorme PN-60. I thought the Delorme may not work with my Mac, but it seems to work fine. I loaded Delorme's Topo maps for my area (Amherst, OH). So far, think the maps are ok. The Delorme topo map does not have the pond in back of our house on it. Would any of the maps that you pay the $30 subscription for be better than there standard Delorme free Topo ones? On the Garmin 62s, I downloaded some Topo Maps of the Ohio area from gpsfile and one of them did display the pond behind our house, but did not show the newer road that we live on. I assume I am probably better off buying Garmin's Topo 24k map, rather than trying to find an updated free one? Sorry, if these are dumb questions, but I have researched a lot on both of these, but still new to this whole handheld gps map game. Not sure which model, I will keep yet either. Thanks for the help!

So, does the Delorme PN-60 work with a Mac now or should I say work easily? Thanks!

Thanks for the advice. I have considered the Delorme PN-60, but have read that it is hard to use with Macs and that's all we have. I really only need to download local and some Canadian maps and lake maps of Lake Erie and some Canadian Lakes. I have heard a lot of good things about the Delorme, except possible Mac issues. Certainly seems like the best value of the 3 I have seen on the Black Friday sales ads.

I just saw that Gander Mountain will have the Garmin 62s for $249. Also, they have the Delorme PN-60 for $199. Now have to decide if I should get the 62s, Oregon 450 or Delorme PN-60???? Will be using for hiking and fishing.

Good thread - I would think Black Friday would be one of the best times to buy a GPS.

Wow - that sure is a good price even if it is refurbished. I was going to buy the Delorme PN-60 through that Amazon deal for $238, but not sure if it is worth the extra $100 plus. My primarily use will be for taking fishing, marking fishing spots and hiking. Think the refurbished PN-40 is all I need or go for PN-60.