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"I make bad technology decisions"
May we quote that if we need to on the next release?
I laughed at that comment too, but he did seem very humble about his approach. I don't know if I would (or could) be that humble if I ran a website this big!
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Hey all,
I've been lurking for a long time, and caching through friends and whatnot. But, I've always held the sport close to my heart. I went to a conference at Penn State a few weekends ago and got to see Jeremy (yep, that Jeremy) give a talk about his experiences with Geocaching. This forum usually has perspectives of cachers, but the perspective of the founder of this site moved me to get back on here again, and load up my GPS for a spin.
Here's the link:
What do you all think?
-TeamAO
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Another cacher and i hid a cache today...I will publish the cache with my name 1st and his 2nd...My question is can he log it as a find if he visits the cache after its been published ???
This is geocaching, there are literally no moral obligations. If numbers matter to you, log it as a find. If they don't but you want to log it, do it.
One way or the other, the purpose of the game is for you to have fun. As long as you adhere to the guidelines, don't worry as much what is "kosher", beyond showing courtesy and respect to others.
Logging a find on a cache you have been to is something I feel you don't need to "ask" to do.
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I recently moved. All new nearby caches, cool.
I had already found pretty much every cache within a few miles of my old house, now I'm working on the new house area.
Questions.
How big is your found circle? If you drew a circle around your home, how far do you have to go till you have an unfound cache?
Or, have all of your finds been elsewhere, and you have not bothered to search locally? I could figure a city dweller heading to the country, etc.
I used to have a big radius a few years ago before I took a break. But I lived in a rural area and not many were hidden, so most that were hidden I had found within maybe 20 miles. But, now I am in Connecticut and I feel like I could spend a few weeks of dedicated caching and not get out of a 2 mile radius.
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I've come increasingly frustrated with a trend in geocaching the last couple of years; specifically, urban caching. I go urban caching in my town with my young son because I can drive there and then motor about. The last couple of years I have noticed something - many urban caches are being reported as micro when in fact they are nano caches (you know, those tiny little magnets smaller in diameter than a dime). I don't mind the challenge, but it is frustrating when you are looking for one thing, and find another. When reporting a new cache, there is no option to create a "nano" cache. Who can I contact at Groundspeak to get this fixed?
It's such a loose definition between the two, I feel it doesn't matter. A GPS is only accurate to maybe like +/- 10 feet (at least mine is) and if the clue sucks and its a micro, I just don't bother. I feel like at some point, if the cache owner can't just provide in the description enough info to make it findable (a clue that tries to provide help in the situation you're in the field and stumped, a lengthy description of what the cache is, why you are taken to this place, etc.), I wouldn't bother going out to look in the first place.
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There are plenty of threads bashing the lame micros.
Let's hear about lame ammo can hides. You know, the ones in parks with just a scant covering of sticks and leaves on top. Got any to share?
There's something that feels substantial in finding an ammo can, that no film canister will ever fulfill. Ever if the location sucks, opening up the ammo can kind of just feels like geocaching the way it was meant to be done, at least IMO.
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When I discovered Geocaching, I was so interested that I looked through every corner of this site. I read the Guidelines, I read about how to find a cache, I read about how to hide a cache, I read the FAQ, I read through the knowledge-books and then I went back and read the Guidelines again. There's a lot of information to be found in those documents.
A lot of newbies ask questions that are answered in these documents. I have no problem with helping the people who are new to this sport. Someone who has never heard of Geocaching before would have a lot of questions. I do, however, have problems with helping people who lack common sense, or people who do not wish to help themselves. Newbies who ask questions that are easily found on geocaching.com show they did not look very hard for the answer and they just want us to give them the answer. I have problems with people who decide: "Thinking is so old school."
I wholeheartedly agree with and endorse this comment.
aww face it, it gives you all something to do, a reason to stay online at night, a sense of community when you can team up against the new guy, even if he is a jerk in an online forum, where social rules do not apply, but people seem to think they should.
in real life i think we would all be real good friends,
Trust me. We wouldn't.
I feel like in some way, due to the nature of this game (no forced social interaction), socializing of its members is always kinda awkward. Being good friends with everyone is a little ambitious. -
Hello all, a funny thing happened here in the West Central Florida area, last weekend. One of our fellow geocachers took a big geocache out of another cachers yard,
M.O.A.C. (mother of all caches) GC1GRR.It was done as a light hearted joke. There are about 20 cachers in the C Fla area that all know eachother, and we play jokes/pranks on each other and we are all cool with it.
This prank has escalated and has become quite fun, because alot of cachers are getting involved, making videos, lots of emails, facebook, and even a WheresMOAC? website has been set up.
It kind of reminds me of one of those "Whodunit" dinner parties people used to have. Maybe this could be a new type of cache, there is talk of ending the saga with a geo event.
Heres a link to the website of WheresMOAC.com http://www.facebook.com/l/c36ed;www.wheresmoac.com/
Start at the bottom at video #1
Episode 11 is hilarious.
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If we did it certainly wouldn't help to call them out. We have found that there is a lot of politics involved in caching.
I haven't geocached in a while. But, if I remember anything other than being in the woods a lot was how baffling the politics surrounding this game is sometimes.
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It looks to me like the people that are complaining just really don't understand temporary and/or pocket caches and have never had the great joy in participating in them.
Its too bad that you'll never get to see the value in them because they were great fun! You MISSED IT! I still say the caches brought to the event for temporary caches and/or pocket caches were deemed valuable enough by the owner to bring them and I had great fun finding their caches whether I just had to introduce myself and sign the log or plug in coordinates to go find the cache and then sign the log. For that I thank you!
If I would have known about then, I have one I would have brought, of course now they'd be archived, which is sad.I hope the ones that have been archived are at least relisted whether anyone logs them from GW4 or not.
Moosiegirl, I know who you're talking about and that person's caches and wouldn't THAT be horrible if they were archived, they're like a Geocaching legend!
Oh, I believe you, it all sounds like great fun. However, if it was all such fun, why do you need to log a bogus find to validate that fun? Isn't just the act of participating good enough?
I don't believe anyone said "hey, stop having pocket caches", I think what was said was "Hey, stop logging finds on caches that are not legit."
Well said!!!
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The sad thing is that this complaint has to be said. The fact of the matter is that if all geocachers excercised common sense, possibly all of the problems mentioned by the OP would have never arised.
When I look at some cachers that have found thousands of caches, I have even took noticed one quit his/her job to go caching all the time. How healthy is it, to willingly (I' cannot confirm, but it sure sounded like it) give up a job to run around town writing your name on silly scraps of paper?
It's a real shame altogether that people have to make a game that sounds like it used to be only about cool places, and turned it into a competition.
My friends used to like to look for close caches, but they have looked around and saw the microspew, and have said, "Wanna go look a altoid tin in a dumpster and sign it?". I, myself, grew disgust because these same people called me everyday telling me they saw a cache online they just had to see for themselves because the location looked soooo cool.
People throw around the phrase "Don't find them if you don't like them", but those same people are making it so the people who like to find good locations, harder and harder to do so. When I scan my area, if I had a cache search in 2003 for my local caches, they are all regular sized caches that are spread out, and all at locations that the owner described so well in the listing that, as a new cacher, I would have a blast doing. Now? Well, I've got a cache at Wal-Mart, a park n' grab park micro, a micro magneted to a bridge girder. I never see me, or my friends sitting around, reading a listing of a micro at Wal-Mart that says "In Parking lot, bring utensil." and ANYONE saying "That sounds so fun, let's go find that cache!"
It's truly sad that caching has evolved, and all those people who said "Don't find them, if you don't like them" and say their way of caching doesn't effect mine, well it does. My style got hit by the tidal wave that is micros that have no reason of being placed besides there was an empty lampskirt.
I'll keep on reading this thread, it has some good ideas in it. I do not see cachers using common sense for a while, possibly getting rid of statistics and using "ranks", as previously mentioned, so you know if DNF's are valid and such, but stats that everyone can see will inspire very dumb things of people.
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The Railroad Bridge group has finally published a great working model that we hope everyone finds acceptable. The group is now up for Peer Review so please cast your votes and help support our groups publishment!
Thanks,
Matt of Team AO
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How can one join the group? I am a big fan of Frank Lloyd Wright's work.
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I have created a group for the category railroad trestles and bridges and am now hoping to get a solid base for my group. I will invite those that I know are interested in trains, but any that I forget please go here and join.
We also will need a few more officers, so please anyone interested contact me!
Cheers!
Matt
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At this time I have "sun glasses"4- sale @ the low cost of 0.99 .Yes it's spring and for less than a dollar
you can see the verrrry hard to find "morell" . shipping is $10,000.00 each.
Hi, my name is Rick and every year I go someplace in the US , MORELL MUSHROOM HUNTING. Please Don't think they are the "silly toad stools" hippys eat . I live in Vegas and am new to this geo thing. Just wanted to let you know I think this will be fun and any help with morell hunting ,I would like to thank you in advance.
Please look on the web for "MORELL MUSHROOM "(they look like some that will not be good for you) Any input from you pros, lat lon?????
I find these things every single year. They are delicious to cook, and only a handful of people know that they exist, and even fewer know where to find them in my area.
Good eatin'.
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Strange. Lots of interest over there. Mr T even came up with a WoW group for creating a WoW waymark (which is a virtual). Unfortunately there hasn't been much interest in creating a new virtual category I guess. Maybe there isn't much interest after all. You're not even in the group, TheWhiteUrkel, but open enrollment is on so have fun.
Just making an observation. Weren't "get over it and go Waymarking" type responses to similiar questions in this forum the reason This thread was started in the Waymarking forums?
No. That thread was started because someone wanted to bash Waymarking based on a feeling, and no concrete complaints which, when addressed, might actually help make the site better.
I would beg to differ that the complaints are infact concrete. That "basher" has been a paying member since 2001, and a customer. It is his right to voice his opinion and expect to atleast get some positive feedback. Geocaching.com and Groundspeak is a business that relies on its paying customers, and if it wasn't for the "Charter Members" then the site would not be what it is today.
To make the assumption that the idea that making finding a McDonald's off of a highway and scaling Mt. Everest equal endeavors is not right, I'm certain is a concrete complaint. You cannot compare apples and oranges.
Too often do I see the bashing of people who try to better the site, instead of taking heed to their ideas and possibly trying to mold them and move the ideas towards the bettering of the site for everyone.
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1. How many of you actually take the time to ask permission before placing a cache into a city, county, state or federal park or any other public lands such as DNR, BLM and etc.?
2. Do you just take it foregranted that because it's public land and you pay taxes that you can do anything you want on public land? Apparently, GC thinks that asking permission is a very important issue!
3. Did you know that many of the parks governed by cities, counties and states have what are called "Use Permits", which in many cases involves fees appropriate to the activity planned?
If you know all of this and still say that "I don't care" or see no need to ask permission, then how come the GC Guidelines specify the importance of have permission of the land owner and/or manager before placing a cache? See the following:
GC Guideline: "By submitting a cache listing, you assure us that you have adequate permission to hide your cache in the selected location."
I personally took this guideline to heart when I went to my local city parks & recreation department and acquired a permit for the paulty some of $10.00 a year. This allows me to place caches into any of my city's parks, and that's a lot of caches. If my city really wanted to, if given justification, they could remove all of those caches for which there are no permits on file and even charge their owners with a fine.
So now you are probably wondering why am I making a "big deal" about this subject? Well, it's because it's important to respect the public lands, for they are there for all of us, not just geocachers. Also, read the following example that I hope never gets repeated.
A True Story: In my area several years, there was a cache placed within a local state park and it was there for several months. The Park Ranger became aware of the geocaching hobby, after hearing about it from another Park Ranger and his superiors. He checked out the GC website and discovered a cache was in his park and he took a very strong action and confiscated it. It even got into the local forums and the sparks were flying!
A few years passed and I come along and apparently ask the very same Park Ranger/Manager for permission to place a cache. After setting up an appointment and a latter discussion with him and his assistants, for about 30 minutes or more, I was able to convince him to allow a new cache in the park, and with permission from his superiors, he waived the Use Permit fee of $25. Every year I have to renew my written "contract" with him and there are still no fees to be paid.
The bottom line is, I busted my butt to do the right thing and each and every cacher out there should be doing that as well. I just hate those that have the attitude that "I pay takes an I can do anything I want on public land". NOT SO!!!
Ask and yee shall receive, you hope!
Don't ask and you might get burned!
/\/oo\/\
I believe you are the role model cacher, and wish more people took things serious as you do.
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My 2 cents is that it is a good idea in theory, but it will be robbed of all the coins. Raided and robbed constatly. People take them and put them into personal collections, never to be heard from again.
Agreed, the idea is one that is noble. I'm afraid, however, that if you put a lot of coins into one cache, there will eventually be a ransacking of the coins. It's a shame, though, because as you had said unless you buy the coin, it's hard to see what the coins look like and the hard work put into making the coins look so great.
I'm afraid that there is no solution to this problem of coins being taken from caches for personal collection, because if we solved that one, then we could solve the problem with Jeep TB's all of a sudden "disappearing". People will always take fun from the game and take stuff, it's a shame, but it's the sad truth.
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So could I do this and not only use the tb page but also list it on gc.com as a cache so that people can log it? My thought would be that cachers would visit the page and it would show bogus coords but would have link to the tb page to find out where the cache really was then they would click on the cache that the tb was placed in and then they would get the current coords then while hunting the cache that the tb was in they would get a 2 for 1.
I guarantee you that a cache page will not be listed if you cannot give coordinates to your cache. If you give the coordinates to the cache, and try to switch them every time the TB is moved to a new cache, then, the approver will have to readjust the coordinates, and eventually will catch on to the "moving cache".
I think the TB idea is great, but as far as listing the TB as a cache, I really do not think the idea will fly with the approvers. Sorry.
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Finding a cave cache, and coincidentally finding the cache the same time a grizzly bear wakes up from hibernation.
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I buy my ammo cans for $3 for 30cal and $5 for 50cal.
Those are fair prices in my region. I got them on www.calarmy.com
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My favorite is my North Face Hammerhead with Nalgene Hydration kit...perfect for day hikes. It's very light, and very comfortable...
North Face makes a good product, and the backpack itself is only around $90.
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Either that or a scene from Deliverance starts to unfold...in which case I drop GPS and run...
HAhahahaha!
Then don't try for the caches that I mention in THIS thread.
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I think that if we had a category for railroad trestles and tunnels (active, considering there already is an abandoned tunnel category) then railfans and railroad photgraphers could come to this site to find these locations. One would not have to tresspass to photograph these areas since photographing a trestle one does not have to be on the railroad, and same as the tunnel.
Is anyone else interested in having a category such as this?
If a person in charge is willing to open the category I would be more than happy to manage this category!
Cheers!
Matt
I feel like in some way, due to the nature of this game (no forced social interaction), socializing of its members is always kinda awkward. Being good friends with everyone is a little ambitious.
Its too bad that you'll never get to see the value in them because they were great fun! You MISSED IT! 
If I would have known about then, I have one I would have brought, of course now they'd be archived, which is sad.
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The only caches I hold dear to my heart had problems all the way to and from the cache.