real deal

We used our GPS to set up "azimuth markers" for setting up our beam antenna on Amateur (radio) Field Day ops.

I don't feel that "50 plus Amateur Radio Operators, their families," ad nauseum are worthy of an Event Cache listing on Geocaching.com... This above quote was courtesy of Jeremy Irish...one of the administrators of an organization that call themselves Geocachers...who has not been informed of APRS. This so called "ad nauseum" is the predecessor of what we now enjoy as recreation... using a GPS to identify and locate individuals, equipment etc. by means of satellite technology and radio communications... Without this technology...by the way did I mention that the ARRL (Amateur Radio Relay League) put up the first APRS (Automated Positioning Radio System) which incorporated GPS (Ground Positioning System) for it's primary operating system? Be that it may 50 plus families is nothing compared to the other millions of individuals from all parts of the world that are Amateur radio operators... If indeed we are the "search engine" for "our" Geocache Society... let us not limit ourselves on how we can inform others about it...stopping ourselves short of having going commercialized by advertising sponsors...but to take advantage of the opportunity. Survey how many Geocachers are Amateur radio operators as well...now survey how many people that have not had the opportunity to be informed about Geocache.com and it's society who are Amateur radio operators... Now AD NAUSEUM!!!... By the way I had fun along with several other individuals at this event. Discussion of Geocaching was foremost the topic and even encited a few other people, not only amateurs, into Geocaching. We also used the GPS to set up various azimuths for antennae direction. It is really unfortunate that a prior posting of mine had been deleted overnight. It was a very cordial and sincere posting informing the people who dedicate their time and expertise to make Geocaching for what it is known today. If you are going to delete this message, then delete all the messages in this topic...

It is unfortunate that some people blame the FCC for the degredation of the CB bands, when in fact, the citizens are responsible for following the Part 15 rules and regulations. Now that GMRS is being targeted for licensing only responsible people are going to register for their licence. I throw this stuff away...along with FRS and MURS! With the new no code tech licencse available for $10 (application/license fee) for 10 years is even more beneficial for people who want to have better communications along with variety of transmitting modes. You would also have the use of repeaters (besides simplex)which there is no charge to air-time or their use and the ability to communicate with other amateurs as well. The majority of Geocachers that I have met also had a Amateur license as well...ever hear of APERS? The first APERS satellite using GPS technology was sent into orbit by Amateur radio operators. I do have to agree, however, that the FCC did not do any favors by releasing the once known amateur 11 meters to the public to be known as the "Children's Band" to this day. Only the honest people will remain honest...Happy Geocaching and 73's to all. Sincerely, KD7KYU

if a cache is lost,stolen,animalized etc. and thus located from one coordinate but in the same Park name to another should the old cache site be archived? How about points...should the people that have already visited the old cache site and name be allowed to get a point for finding the new cache site location? And howabout turning a one step single cache into a multicache level, should people get an additional point?And finally how about those individuals who claim to have not found the cache because of it being victim given a point from the hider just because they were there?even better changing the cache from behind a rock and then resecuring it "better" in a tree in the same acceptable cache site location (original placement)....???????????????????????????