hcook1
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I am sure that this is not a new topic, but when I looked through the forum, I could not find anything that resembled this topic, so here it goes….
Just to refresh everyone’s memory of the Geocaching guidelines relating to this topic:
According to the guidelines at: http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx#traditional
This is the original cache type consisting of (at a bare minimum) a container and a logbook. The cache may be filled with objects for trade. Normally you'll find a Tupperware-style container, ammo box, or bucket filled with goodies, or smaller container ("microcache") too small to contain items except for a logbook. The coordinates listed on the traditional cache page are the exact location of the cache. A container with just an object or codeword for verification may NOT be approved if the cache does not also include a logbook.
Also, from the geocaching FAQ: http://www.geocaching.com/faq.asp A cache can come in many forms but the first item should always be the logbook. In its simplest form a cache can be just a logbook and nothing else. The logbook contains information from the founder of the cache and notes from the cache's visitors. The logbook can contain much valuable, rewarding, and entertaining information. A logbook might contain information about nearby attractions, coordinates to other unpublished caches, and even jokes written by visitors. If you get some information from a logbook you should give some back. At the very least you can leave the date and time you visited the cache.
I found a micro sized microcache container. It was the smallest one that I had seen at the time. Come to find out, there are a few caches around based on the same container. This thing is so small, that you have to really work to get a piece of paper 3/8” tall and 4” long into it – rolled up of course.
So rather than making the finders try to write small enough to get their name on the log, I thought it would be more fun to have finders send a message to an e-mail account that I setup for the purpose, and have them include a codeword for verification. If it was of a size that would accommodate a log, of course I would have included a log. I like logs. I try to have a much fun with them as the next person. Further, I fully appreciate and personally endorse the comments in the geocaching FAQ: “The logbook can contain much valuable, rewarding, and entertaining information. Etc. etc. etc.”. However, this cache is so small that the only thing that the log can contain is a list of a few of the recent finders - no valuable, rewarding, or entertaining information. I would expect the log entry for the cache on the geocaching website to serve this purpose.
My final point is that the guidelines indicate “MAY not be approved”. To me this indicates that it could be approved given acceptable justification and reasonable accommodations for verifying the find.
Am I all wet here? What do other people think?
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Is there a list of distance traveled records? I realize that it is relatively easy to SPOOF distance traveled. However, that is also pretty easy to detect from a little manual investigation effort. I think it would be fun to see what the records are.
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Does anyone have the e-mail address of the contact at TPRD who is reviewing caches? I have a new park going in near my house and I want to place a cache in it. Thanks!
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Yes, I got stuck in that very spot... :-)
And yes, I had to get a few hints to get me through it...
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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What about the other cache? You know - "Kermit [does|takes] Hollywood"...
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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I don't know of anyplace in the Beaverton/Hillsboro area - not that they don't exist rather I just don't know. However, if you get the opportunity to spend the night at Crater Lake - that has to be the best viewing opportunity in Oregon!!! I highly reccomend staying at the Crater Lake lodge and viewing from the edge of the Crater within walking distance of the lodge. My wife and I were there last year and it was almost as if you could just reach up and touch the stars. It was clear and a bit on the cold side - so go prepared.
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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quote:
Originally posted by oregone:Can anyone spot where the geocache is hidden in the picture?
Yup! Been there, found that one!
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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I just dropped the first of my Geocoins (#0376) in a Cache in Austin Texas! Let's see how long it lasts!
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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My wife and I are partial to this little hideaway...
http://www.stephanie-inn.com/stephanie/theinn.html
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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Thanks! I will give that a try. These are features that I was unaware of and they appear to do what I want.
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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I have a feature request. I think that this would be ideal as a charter member feature. I would like to have a feature in the Search for nearest caches to search only for new caches.
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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Congratulations on all accounts! Hope to see you out there again soon!
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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OK. Thanks for the clarification...
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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While visiting a new cache earlier today, I came a cross a Golden Spike in the cache. Remembering the discussion here, I recalled that it had some significance - so I took it along. However, the real problem with it is that the Travel bug tag that I think may have accompanied it at one time is gone. As such, I cannot log it as the Goulden's Spike.
Also, Since it has apparently been in Dr. Isotopes lab, I am wondering if I should turn this over to the Department of Energy for fear of radioactivity!
Any suggestions?
--- hcook1
P.S. If what I have is indeed the Goulden's Spike, then I am willing to follow-through on the stated purpose of the spike. However, If Dr. Isotope hase more devisive plans for this ...
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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Thanks to all who responded. From the tone of the discussion, it is clear that there are no rules or preconceived notions about providing clues to caches. The bottom line is that it is up to each individual cacher to decide for themselves how they want to deal with this situation.
For me, I greatly appreciate the effort that goes into all caches, but especially the more sophisticated caches. I personally don't want to do anything to undermine the responsibility/privledge/enjoyment of those who put the effort into these caches. In the future, I will not be providing clues to my solutions without the permission of the cache owner. I want to continue to support the sport and see it thrive. For me the fun is in the solution and the search.
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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Well, hcook1 resulted in nothing. It said that Google knows nothing about hcook1 yet. However, the really interesting result came when I entered my real name - Harold.
It resulted in several pages of "Harold is" statements - not all of which are flattering. However, the one that caught my eye was the second one from the end of the list:
>>> harold is able to dispose of the bomb
Guess I better get to work on the Broken Arrow puzzle. Watch out Dr. Isotope!
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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I found out about these too late - april fool's day had already past. I would be interested if there is a second run at some point in the future. I try to visit caches wherever I go so I have opportunities to spread these pretty far and wide. Thanks for the effort. I guess I will have to pick-up one or two out of a cache someplace.
--- hcook1
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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I will be there. In addition, my daughters Girl Scout Troop is always looking for community service projects. I have contacted their leader and she will be announcing it at the next meeting...
I am also trying to figure a way to have a caching activity for them. Any ideas?
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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There are over 900 caches within a 100 mile radius of the Portland area. I don't know of a park without one or more caches. Not all of them will hold a travel bug. Chances are you are within walking distance of a cache any where you might be staying in the area.
As far as the travel bug, get it into a cache and it will find it's way. Portlan and Vancouver are across the Columbia river from each other. However, depending upon where you are staying in the area, getting to Vancouver can be a challenge depending upon the traffic. However, since you are from San Jose, you should be familiar with traffic...
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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I have a question for the caching community that I am pondering:
In general, what it the opinion of the geocaching community about
providing clues to the solution of a cache if you are
not the cache owner?
Recently, I solved a particularly challenging puzzle cache. After I posted the find, I received e-mail from several different cachers asking for clues to the solution. I provided what I thought were very general clues based on the information that was provided by the cacher asking the question. A little while after, I got to thinking that what I did was wrong and if I were the cache owner I might feel slighted. In addition, I also realized that it might not be fair to other cachers that are struggling with the solution. In the end, I started feeling rather badly about the fact that I did it.
So here is my quandry: Was I wrong to provide the clues?
I can make good arguments on both sides of the question. Afterall, I did not post the clues/solution in my log or the forums. I myself have asked cache owners for help when I was stumped on a puzzle and very general clues were provided. I tried to follow this lead, but I realized that this should be responsibility/privledge of the cache owner.
How does the rest of the community feel about this?
For me, in the future I will be refering any questions of this type to the cache owner...
People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,
... but they will always remember how you made them feel.
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To Log Or Not To Log, That Is Teh Question.
in General geocaching topics
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Thanks for the feedback. Taking into account all of the input I received, including more than one personal message, code word caches appear to be 50-50.
As far as my interpretation of "may not", I guess I'be been hanging out with too many lawyers in the recent past...
Oh well, so much for a new idea. Logs it is.