Bear Paughs

That is probably the coolest sig item I've ever seen. I would love to find that in a cache!

I tried to order some of a few of these to release as FEEPs (great idea, LFD, I love it and support it!), but I can't get it to take my payment. I think they're out.

I gave up collecting most geocoins, but this one is so cool just had to...

We started as letterboxers but really hated this attitude. I am crafty in a lot of different ways, but I am completely unable to design and handcarve a stamp. Therefore my finds were "less than" and it's very discouraging when your effort to locate something is crapped upon because the stamp you made in the log book wasn't deemed worthy. Thankfully we found geocaching and have had a thousand times the fun we did with letterboxing.

I had one bad experience at this cache. Here's my DNF log from our first attempt: It turns out the cache owner was a former police officer and the cache itself was right in front of a station. He told me to let anybody who asked know that the cache was placed with the permission of the higher ups and gave me their names. Then he asked me to describe the security guard so she could be informed and chastised for the behavior that was so uncalled for. My subsequent found log:

Or others just as insistent the other way simply because they disagree with others. It swings both ways. Did you think I was talking about you? "just as insistent the other way"???? What? Believe me, I never thought you or anyone else in this thread was insisting that the opinion they didn't share was the correct one. Read my post again. BTW, my statement applied to anyone, regardless of which opinion they held.... But it's true your voice has been the loudest, I suppose.

I hadn't thought of this, great idea that I'll have to try out!

I, like many of the other posters on this thread, never insisted that it couldn't possibly be geocachers. However, based strictly on what was written in the article and the descriptions of the area and people involved by people who are familiar with them, my gut feeling is that wasn't geocachers. I may be wrong, I'm simply expressing an opinion as I've respectfully allowed others to do. I'm open to the possibility that it was geocachers, however unlikely. I'm just surprised how insistent people are that some of the opinions expressed are wrong.

I do this as well for longer hikes.

If you never have a reason to cross over into the posted areas, then it's fine, although the cache owner should note in the description to be heedful of the warnings and not to trespass.

I only carry water, but I don't see any reason why you can't carry other liquids provided you clean the bladder extra carefully. I use a Camelbak Daystar. Most Camelbaks are padded and insulated where they hold the bladder, allowing the contents to stay cool (and with the wide mouths it's easy to throw in ice cubes as well.) Your back won't feel cold or get irritated. Any liquid in the tubing gets warm pretty fast, but you can just drink that or pour it out to get to the refreshing cool stuff. (They have insulation sleeves for the tubes for winter use so the contents don't freeze in the tube, I'm wondering if something like that might work to keep what's in the tube cool in the summer as well.) My back doesn't really feel warm when wearing the pack, although with more strenuous hikes under high heat I may sweat more than I realize and notice it only after I take off the pack that my back may be damp. But I haven't experience any kind of discomfort when carrying it, either from the coolness of the contents or from the heat generated by the padding. As with any pack, some brands and models are going to fit different people differently. I am only experienced with Camelbak hydration packs, although I've tried on other brands that never fit me right. I can't speak to their features, but Camelbak has so many different styles and liquid and cargo capacities that between Camelbak and other brands you should have several options. A great place to find hydration packs on sale is Campmor.com. Their hot deals can be really awesome and change quite often. I got my sons their own camelbak's for only $12.50 each last summer. The adult packs are more expensive, but if you catch them, they often have amazing deals.

I always have one. I hang on to it until another one shows up then I swap them. That way the next cacher to the cache still finds a yellow jeep. But if everyone did that, it prevents others from their opportunity to find it and log it. It looks like at least one of your yellow jeeps was a trade with another cacher who was also holding onto it until swapping out for another.

I'm not picking up any more yellow or white jeeps to move. If I come across any in a cache I'll discover them, but leave them for someone else. I had one YJTB and one was plenty. Before that I had 2 WJTBs. I won one of the monthly contests last year and once I became ineligible to win any more I decided to stop going after jeeps in order to give more people a chance to do so. I don't know which is worse, the jeep hoarding, or doing so under the guise of "I'm making sure other people can log it." Doesn't matter, hoarding is still taking them out of circulation and it sucks.

Once you make the leap to paperless you'll wonder how it possible you went so long without it. No more having to carefully plan every outing. You can have your GPS and PDA loaded with unfounded caches and on the spur of the moment go on a hunt. The OP is obviously quite efficient even with the constraints of paper, but if you ever want to make the leap, here's a great website that took me step by step through the process of getting started.

That sounds awesome! I'd love if my husband and I did something like that. Glad you had such a great time.

Follow the owners instructions. If they don't ask for it, don't do it. Oh, of course I'll honor the wishes of the owner. I most definitely wouldn't do anything they asked me not to. I am all for abiding by the wishes of the owner. I'm just curious why someone would release a travel bug but not want to see some of its movements logged. Isn't that kind of the general point of a travelbug, to release it and see where it goes? I'm just asking for an explanation from someone opposed to this for their own bugs as to why they don't want to see these movements, because it would help me understand. Right now I don't get it and I admit I need someone to explain it to me like I'm two

We just created profiles for our boys (ages 8 and 10) last week. We've only started backlogging their finds, have a ways to go. It will probably take a few weeks. Anyway, here are their profile pages, written by them and using the photos of their choice as well: Julian (Warrior Bear Paugh) Ryder (Smooth Ryder Bear Paugh) But one of my favorites is a local cacher's. Check out Geo Jesus My favorite part is where he lists his hobbies.

I guess I just don't understand why someone would release a TB and then not want to see it movements if they involve dipping. If it was in my posession while I visited a handful of caches and I took photos of it, why wouldn't you want me to post that and show off its adventures? Isn't that half the fun of a TB?

lol, me too! Our page is a bit out of date, I've got to get on that.

Ooh, perfectly explained, too! Thanks, Eartha!

So then believe the guy who apparently lives in the area and reported to the papers what he saw. Oh wait, but he can't be right because everyone knows there's no cacher who would tear up someone else's property. Yearwood knows no more than anyone else. The gentleman who reported his observations is the one who saw who and what was going on. Yearwood can only relate that he/she has been to the location and in no way can counter what the gentleman says he saw. I've been to the World Trade Center several times too but I can only tell you what happened by reading the accounts of the people who were there. I'm just sayint there have been accounts here by at least three cachers who have been to this particular cache. It has been said that you don't need to go anywhere near the flowers to find the cache and even in the report the alderman only mentions one person holding a GPS out of all the activity he has witnessed. I'm not saying that it's not possible that less informed cachers would tear up someone's property, I'm just saying that I'm going to place more weight on what is said by those with firsthand knowledge of the cache and the area. We get it, you think geocachers are to blame here. That's your point of view and you've made it clear.

Thought we were friends??? Hey, don't be mad at me -- it's the rules that only US residents are eligible to win (and only the 48 contiguous states at that I think). I just think that for the 5 months that the contest is running that the jeeps should stay in circulation here where the most eligible people can find them and enter the contest with them. After the contest is over, I don't care where they go. I'd send one to you then! (I only ask for your patience in the meantime. )

I'd be more inclined to listen to what someone who lives in the area and who has personal knowledge of the area, the cache, and the complainer has to say, regardless of their number of finds than someone with higher numbers who only knows what the story says.

I hope the jeeps don't make it overseas until AFTER the contest ends, just to increase the chances of those eligible to play and win. After it ends I have no problems with the jeeps moving anywhere they go, but please keep them in the US until it's over!

LOL, that's awesome! Too bad you didn't find out about it before you got back -- you could have had some sweet international finds!