Cindyj2

To get an idea from my long nine cache as my starting point there's like 8 caches that need maintenance. One has me a bit baffled because people before one guy say that the cache container is broken and contents trashed and then one guy logs it and says he left a trackable and the same day the owner logs in and says they'll look at it when they get back from out of state. How can you leave a trackable when there's no container? 5 out of 8 of these don't seem to have any complaints so i'm wondeing why they are tagged as needs maintenance. One is a virtual that doesn't seem to have an owner anymore sadly. But in general there aren't usually that many in my area that usually need maintenance and they seemed to have popped up all over lately.

So you think that others are just not mentioning issues in their logs?

Thanks Bassanio! See these are things i'm still learning about. lol Thanks you Printess Caroline! I/we will do that once it warms up again. It seems that after a week of 70 degree weather here in central IL winter has decided to come back for a second time this year. lol More fun for my son when it's a little warmer out.

Thankfully I just got it yesterday and will be in town tomorrow so today i'm trying to look through caches for the area i'll be in and didn't know if I should be looking for a newer cache and will be possibly be getting alot of visits for a while or just look for a cache that is popular and I didn't know if there was a way to search for any of that with the search options from being a premium member. lol I'll be sure and do a good log as well! Thanks so much again!

Thank you Kunarion, you are most helpful! We have only 11 finds so far and just wanting to learn and do things right and be respectful and all.

I think it would be kinda neat if they could make a restriction on being able to place a cache if you currently have too many needs maintenances on your caches and then say they'd have to go and fix those before they were able to place more caches. But maybe that would be to hard to do or cause too many issues. But would sure find out who was really dedicated to their caches. There are so many caches in my area that have needs mainenance issues it seems and then I go to look at the cache page and nobody seems to have any complaints in their logs so i'm wondering what that's about too.

A friend gave me a travel bug and I'm trying to find a good geocache to place it in and was wondering what you look for in a cache when you are wanting to place trackables? Obviously size of the cache and ya don't want to pick a cache that isn't frequented much and tak into consideration the goal of the trackable but how do I find a good cache that is visited frequently? I'm still not well versed in all the search capabilities of being a premium member. Just wanting to make sure this travel bug gets a good start. Thanks guys!

Thanks guys and Thanks StarBrand as I didn't know what reviewers looked at and figured they were only able to focus on the cache at hand! lol There's another cache in the area that i've been dying to go do with my son called Phooning for love but the cache and log have been wet for like 2 months and i'm starting to wonder if they are ever gonna get back out there to fix it. I even considered taking a notebook paper and putting it in a ziplock bag to help out but didn't know if i'd get in trouble for that. And sadly all the trackables have been stolen from this cache as well. Thanks for the info!

Was just wondering if reviewers take into account the practices of a chacher before they approve a new geocache? Was looking for a cache yesterday and logged a dnf and a couple others have too and then I checked the cache owners past caches and they seem to have lots of needs maintenance issues and caches being archived. Granted they don't live in the same state anymore but I think these issues were there well before they moved. They seem like they put out caches and then when they are notified of a problem they don't do anything. Do reviewers take that into account? In a situation where you move to another state what do you do with your caches if you know you do not have someone in that local area to take care of them? Do you just leave them their to rot or pick them up and archive them? Was just wondering! I think my area has a great reviewer though so I don't want anybody thinking i'm saying anything bad about him. lol Thanks

hahahaha Thats too funny!!! I read the previous post and thought the EXACT same line. Wait... that might not be funny. Hamlet has the answers to all of life's most pressing questions. Really do you have to go out of your way to make fun of people? Some people are so nice and some deffinately are not. Can't imagine what I ever did to her to so that she has to go out of her way make me feel so unwelcome yet AGAIN! I just give up trying to be part of this community!

Hoping they quit doing this to you as it's not right they need to have the guts to come and address the problem here and be civil like a normal person.

They need to put a report button on the cache page so that if the owner if the cache is away that that trash can be reported and taken care of quicker.

It was totally uncalled for for someone to do that to you and that is just sick! That is not your fault. But those photos were up for at least 40 min and people posted that they were there. edited to add a little more

Guess Anonymous took up geocaching.... I agree the community is not showing how we can be trusted to be self policing if we're going to have garbage like that taking over. I also feel for the reviewers who have to help clean up this mess I agree. I really like my local reviewers. I have not deleted any of the bogus logs yet. The user has logged 2 of my EC so far. I reported the abusive personal conversation from the same user to Groundspeak. The one user that requested that my account to be tempory locked may be happy to know that my 97 geocaches may soon be. This all pretains to that South Pole virtual cache. OMG That stuff on your cache needs to be removed right away! Why would you leave that on here for all to see?!!??? My nine year old son who caches with me was in here with me while I was reading this and I went to check what had happened. So glad he didn't see those photos! THOUGHT THIS WAS A FAMILY SITE AND A FAMILY GAME! What the heck has gotten into people? People that to that stuff are gonna ruin it for everyone! edited for spelling

We had a ball making a hiking staff with my cub scout den! We really liked this site for all of the options/ideas for all the neat little things you can add to your staff. http://sne.tripod.com/hikestaf.htm And also our local scout store has all the scout medalions to add and plus alot of parks have medalions you can add. And I took a class at our local scouting university about them as well! I have always been told that sholder high was the best height. And I used maple but my staff was just for fun and show and we don't hike to far so otherwise I was told to use a lighter type of wood. Can't remember which types he said to use and not sure where my notes are at the moment. Have fun!

Oh boy! Now how do I tell my 9 year old Cub Scouts when it finally warms up that saying "Thanks" is a bad thing? Seriously though how do you know if someone is or isn't truly thankful? If they are saying "TFTC"="Thanks for the cache" maybe they actually do mean Thanks for the a Cache. And really how do we know what peoples lives are like and how busy they are what events led up to that short reply of TFTC that you think is so meaningless or means something worse? Who'd have thought that saying "thank you" was thoughtless and meaningless. Cause I can assure you that when I say thank you I do mean thank you. I even went back and changed one of my logs to spell out the thank you part. Hope they all know I meant it. In the future i'll write better logs. But i'll have to do it from home as I am a divorced mom who can't afford a smart phone. Oh and another poster on the thread said they used their phone to place caches. Thought we weren't supposed to do that? Probably for another thread but i'm still new. lol Edited to add the last part

Am actually rather afraid to state my opinion since this person said I did not read all the posts basically calling me a lier. I just chose to ignore their rudness. Hope this person isn't as nice to all new people as they treated me for stating my opinions or no new people will be coming here for help!

This is the second post and says he didn't know anything about what was going on really?

There's been so much stuff supposedly been said by different people I figured it would be good to go directly to the source and since NDOT has been contacted and people had said that the people at the INN told them that about NDOT why not call the Inn and get a first hand account. It would be good to see that entire email as I didn't see anything about it on the Nye Co sherrifs office site. And it should be simple but obviously it's not as there are 6 pages to this discussion already.

Perhaps someone should call the "Little Ale Inn" and see what they have to say?

On open range land? Now that is a good one. Why wouldn't that be possible? Try googling "Nevada Rare Plant Atlas index"

Cindy, you have said in one post what some of us have been trying to say in pages. I hope you don't take this wrong, but "out of the mouth of babes". That said, I will say that what is being discussed here is a specialized genre (aka "mutation") of geocaching, so please don't apply anything you see here to your day-to-day neighborhood geocaching. No offense taken and thought maybe a fresh eye on this would make a difference but for some I see it's usless and people will never get it? Guess they were not taught the leave no trace in cub scouts...hehehe That even if the ranchers drive their trucks and atv's is fine for them CAUSE IT'S THEIR PROPERTY it is NOT our property to abuse even if the owners do it. It's obvious in some of those pic that there are marks on the side of the road from people driving. There probably were plants growing there at one time but are gone now because of people driving on the shoulder. Can't figure out why people don't get that either. Sounds like when people say it's hard to hurt the desert are doing their best to see how much it does take to hurt the dessert. Just because there is junk out there all over the place doesn't mean it's ok to add to it just cause someone else did it doesn't make it right! Even if NDOT removing containers is a rumor it's possible that it's not a rumor as well and for those not airing on the side of caution and not contacting the CO as should be done are the ones that i'd love to see an NDOT guy out there driving around and decide to call the police on them. And if that place said that NDOT removed a bunch of the caches and weren't being truthfull jut to get business why ould the risk being in trouble with NDOT. You don't think when being question a chacher would tell NDOT what they said? Which would lead right back to them. Sounds like these power trails need to go back to the basics a bit more and do things by the guidelines otherwise what are they there for? I've read every post to this thread and I think that if I were the co and people state their bad practices in their logs like driving where they are not supposed to and such should have their logs deleted and those smileys taken away. lol Take care everyone! edited my grammer

I'm still pretty new to this but alot of this stuff like the throw downs and jumpers and pre stamped log containers is nothing i've seen in the faq pages on this site or at least I don't remember them if they were. I was under the impression that if you don't find a cache you logged a DNF, right? So when they don't find the cache why aren't they doing this? I carry duct tape in my pack in case I need to fix up a cache but I thought the practice would be to either to try to fix the cache and then let the CO know of this or replace the "BROKEN" containter and then also contact the CO to let them know you did this. How could you tell in a desert where the cache was to replace a cache? I could see if there was a pile of rocks for each and ever geocache to know where to replace the geocaches but thought i'd read that you should log a dnf if you can't find it and if you want to help them out and replace it that you had to contact the CO and get permission "Before" you replaced it which would still be tricky if you didn't know 100% where it was to begin with. Is not being able to find 100 or more caches normal? Wouldn't that in it's self send up some kind of flag saying I'd better contact the CO and notify him that something is going on with his caches? Wouldn't that be common sense? I would think that if you were at that resteraunt and were told that someone official had removed those caches wouldn't you just be looking for trouble by putting them back when it sounds like it was done on purpose. Wouldn't that be yet another flag saying you need to contact the CO and let him know something is going on with the caches? Sounds like either they are stirring things up for the heck of it or to be mean or they don't want to miss out on those numbers cause i'd think if they were just out for fun and scenery then missing out on a 100 wouldn't be a big deal since it's just about having fun, Right? There are a few fairly small geocache series around here and I would think that if I went to the first one and took the whole cache and signed it in the car on the way to the second cache and then left the first cache there and took the second one with me and signed it in the car on the way to the 3rd one and put the second cache in the third cache spot and so on and so on i'd probaby have CO that would be pretty annoyed with me. This isn't good practice, right? So i'm wondering why they were doing this and then telling on themselves and posting it in their log? I'm probably not the only newer person to be reading this and hoping they are not learning bad practices and wondering what is the right way and what is the wrong way to geocache. Please go easy on me as i'm still pretty new. Edited for my rotten gramer and changed a few things that didn't make much sense they way I had it...lol

Today the only extra thing i'd bring is a snow shovel! Got about 13 yesterday! So sometimes it also depends on the season and where you live as to what you bring.

Thank you for the ideas and I just notice when I pull up caches in my area and see how many and how recent local caches have been found close to me. That's how I noticed so many in my area hopefully but just didn't know a good way to contact them or the proper etiquette. Ya know? Thanks again!