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  1. I thought that you all knew that The Da Vinci Code is about geocaching. Don’t you remember your Mid-evil History?


    The original, original cacher was King Arthur. He hid a few caches, at that time called relics, for some of his friend, the knights, to find. After some time the hobby had grown to the point that they had to find a better way to facilitate the sport, therefore they built the round table.


    The Holy Grail was actually a 5/5 cache, or relic, hidden somewhere in the Holy Lands. Many of the cachers hunted for it but so many DNFs were posted that rumors that it didn’t if exist began to circulate.


    Many years past, and the activity grew. Many groups and clubs were formed all around the land. This growth caused them to form a group of reviewers and moderators as well as a HQ which would aid the sport. The site of this HQ is now known is the Vatican. This group or TPTB was seen by some as draconic and oppressive. In spite of this, the hobby continued without any major problems for quite some time.


    Years later many of the cachers thought that a large group get-together would be a good idea. When TPTB learned of this they decided to sanction this and called it a crusade. Thus is first geowoodstock was formed.


    The first of these events went OK but some ripples of dissension were heard, but these died away quickly. However the next crusades stirred up even more problems. By the time of the fourth crusade the splits had become even more pronounced. Much of the grumblings came about when on group claimed that merely signing a relic was as good as claiming the relic in the manner out by TPTB.


    Even more rifts were formed over the concept of traveling and temporary relics, which were brought back from the Holy Lands so that even more cachers could have a chance to see these relics. When some of these cachers logged a claim on the relics, there was a great uproar amongst the cachers everywhere.


    One of the sects of cachers, which claimed, that based on the numbers of the relics they had claimed, were better than other cachers, formed their own group known as the Knights Templar. This caused much division within the caching world. TPTB at first were afraid to take action against this group because of the power they seemed to have.


    While all this was taking place, a small group of non-mainline cachers, who knew the truth about the Holy Grail, hid in the shadows protecting their secret. For the Grail was not a 5/5 cache hidden in the Holy Land, instead it was in actuality a pocket cache.


    TPTB were soon forced to take action on the Knights Templar due to their growing power. They removed the Knights as a group, but the angst that this caused only formed more splits.

    The next great rift came when a reviewer in Germany posted his views on the micro vs. traditional debate on a local forum. The local cachers rallied around the rouge reviewer and the Protestant Reformation was born.


    Fearing that they would lose all control TPTB stepped in to quash the uprising. Many horrors and atrocities were done by cachers on both sides on the debate. The Inquisitions were TPTB’s final answer to the problem. Unfortunately this only polarized the groups and brought an end to the first great experiment in caching.


    While all this was happening, the group of cachers that knew the truth about the Holy Grail protected their secret. Even to this day they still hide the Grail.


    I thought you all knew that.





    Shhhhhhhh! I thought this was to be kept secret until the handshake was given???





    No!! The grand scheme by TPTB: The location of the grail was to be found only by the geopuritans and kept in a secret location possibly here (French Peak). :ph34r: I have ascertained this by much research and some deduction. :D

  2. I don't really see an advantage to it.


    The logs are the trigger for the instant notification feature. Also, anyone can tell which reviewer published the cache by looking at the log. That information was only available to the owner before the published log was added.


    I wondered why they started doing that! Now I know. You can learn things by reading the forums! :)

  3. You are going to get lots and lots of answers to this I would imagine. I will go very general. Be sure the GPSr unit that you buy has the ability to accept downloads to a computer and be sure you get some kind of software that will give you detailed road maps. We use a Garmin GPSmap 60C, which I love. We have also used a Magellan SporTrak, which we also loved.


    You could also do a search of these forums and find lots of info. about different units and cost. Most of these guys know a lot more than me!! :lol:

  4. 1. Log the event once. (Although we didn't feel this way until recently)

    2. No.

    3. No.



    This is just one of many threads this week that has addressed the same issues. One of the results of at least one of these threads was archiving and locking some caches. I'd say that you have your answer to that one. As far as multi-logging events (for temp. caches or whatever), I have yet to see anything being done about it. The practice has been going on for at least a year so I would assume (yes, I know what they say about assuming anything) that Groundspeak is not at this time going to do anything about it. That's just my take on it. Maybe TPTB are having the same debates that we are having or maybe they just don't care. It seems to me if they felt as strongly about some of these controversial issues as some of the people here then they would have taken care of it already. But it would really be nice if we could have some sort of ruling by TPTB. Even if they say they just don't give a darn! I could live with that.

  5. Let's be honest here. The term Micro-Spew™ was invented as a way for some people in the forums to feel superior about their find counts.


    Yes, there are a lot of lame micros out there, and no, there isn't any way to filter for quality in a PQ. Having said that, when you see that the cache size is micro and the location is a parking lot, what do you think you're going to find when you get there?


    As for asking micro owners to archive their caches, I don't think you'll get much traction there. First off, have you considered how that sounds? No matter how you word it, the email will boil down to you saying "I'd like you to consider archiving your lame trash cache so I can place one of my masterpieces." Second, most of what is widely considered Micro-Spew™ is in a location that wouldn't generally support a full sized cache anyway. Third, yes, there are some micros placed that are interfering with locations where a full sized cache could go, but if you have to hike two miles uphill to get to it, then it's not really Micro-Spew™ anyway, is it?


    Where does this stop? If we start by asking owners to archive what we believe to be low quality micros, will we then progress to asking that all cool whip tubs under pine needles filled with busted McTrash be archived as well? What about small caliber ammo cans under conspicuous piles of sticks or rocks. Those seem pretty lame to me, too.


    I don't like lame micros either, but somehow I manage to avoid them without asking that others give up anything.


    Well said!!

  6. I've met several numbers padding cachers. They aren't mean, have foaming mouths, or snarl at you. They are nice folks playing the game in a way they think is normal. Instead of getting angry at them or taking away their stats, lets change what they call normal. Groundspeak may need to help, because the intentions of the game need to be preserved. Features like only allowing one find per listing will help. Other changes in guidelines may need to be added to slow the trend.


    Overall the community needs to frown upon the behavior, because if it's not "cool" to do it, then there won't be those trying to boost their numbers dishonestly, when they know doing so will make them look bad. In general it is social cachers that do this, and their reputation is probably important to them.


    Airmapper, you are one classy guy!

  7. I don't know what all the fuss is about adding icons to your stats is about. I logged a few after one event and found it to be more work than it was worth. Maybe I'm just lazy. They sure were fun to look at and marvel at the creativity of the designers though.

    The coins or the icons? I'm sure I know that YOUR answer to that is the former, but to so many others, it's the latter. ;)


    Icons don't attribute to your find count.

    No, but they increment your Trackable Count AND, more pertinently, your Icon Count. There's a new game going where folks compete over how many Icons they get. Since there's no way anyone can realistically compete with the CCCAs of the world on total Found It logs, this is a way folks feel they can compete on something they can actually "win" (for whatever they think THAT's worth!) I've seen this madness at more than one event. Sigh.


    I guess we view this in a different way. I have never thought of comparing our icons to someone else's. I don't see it as a competition. But I can see where you are coming from.


    On the other discussion going on in this thread, we would not care if the stats being shown were optional. Sounds like it would create less hostility. But it would also take some of the drama out of the forums :) !

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