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Thereby jumping all over everybody else here before they even had a chance to respond. Talk about leading by example So four people, including you, jump onto doc73 instead. He's not prejudging anyone, as historically that what happens in here with this type of question. Predicts a future event that may or may not arise based on a limited view of historical data and states that outcome as a certainty. Looks like prejudging to me. You're at liberty to disagree of course - although so far I'm happy to see that the prediction hasn't come true It sure seems to be an accurate prediction after seeing everyone jump on him!

Thereby jumping all over everybody else here before they even had a chance to respond. Talk about leading by example So four people, including you, jump onto doc73 instead. He's not prejudging anyone, as historically that what happens in here with this type of question.

If it was inside the border of Germany, then yes, it's probably considered a find by the CO.

Yes, not many people will attempt 5/5s, so that gives the cache owner plenty of time to do that between visits. I would also recommend leaving a bison tube behind in the old final location with the coords for stage 1.

It's behind the step along with an empty bottle of Thunderbird and a few needles. CO thought the house was a public area since the city owned it.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I don't know how this could actually be a zero, unless the map showed an actual 0 from flying around the world. It's more like a 1 turned 90 degrees. -

A business owner who loses money due to an object placed on their property without any type of permission, has every right to demand that someone be held responsible for it. At least that's how I would react. Having an area open to public visits does not give anyone the legal right to leave objects behind as part of any online game. Someone should think before wrapping a cylinder up in duct tape and placing it in a public place. Well the cache owner in that case should have gotten permission from this business owner. If they did not then the cache owner would have been violating one of the guidelines of geocaching. So I agree with you. This business owner would have every right to demand that someone be held responsible for it in this hypothetical scenario I've noticed a few cache pages of hides that were blown up, along with comments by geocachers either thinking it was funny, or criticizing the authorities. Don't know how someone can leave a tube wrapped up in duct tape on business property without telling the property owner, and then acting like it's not their problem. I don't like to see anyone get into trouble, but entitled feelings of irresponsibility is not the best response. This is the forums, Dude. Every single cache that ever gets blown up in The United States has several notes from locals making jokes, or criticizing the authorities. I first noticed this, in I don't know, about 2006 or so. Yeah, the $10/hr employees likely don't mind sitting around all day doing nothing, but one day when a struggling business owner finds the page and catches a whiff of that attitude, I don't think they are going to be too happy, and will want to take it out of someone's a**.

That graph indicates a sharp decline in micros, with small sized and other caches being essentially the same. Don't know how this is a bad thing, really. It only reflects different trends. If the decline is from the micro spammers moving to the QR code site, then what's the problem?

A business owner who loses money due to an object placed on their property without any type of permission, has every right to demand that someone be held responsible for it. At least that's how I would react. Having an area open to public visits does not give anyone the legal right to leave objects behind as part of any online game. Someone should think before wrapping a cylinder up in duct tape and placing it in a public place. Well the cache owner in that case should have gotten permission from this business owner. If they did not then the cache owner would have been violating one of the guidelines of geocaching. So I agree with you. This business owner would have every right to demand that someone be held responsible for it in this hypothetical scenario I've noticed a few cache pages of hides that were blown up, along with comments by geocachers either thinking it was funny, or criticizing the authorities. Don't know how someone can leave a tube wrapped up in duct tape on business property without telling the property owner, and then acting like it's not their problem. I don't like to see anyone get into trouble, but entitled feelings of irresponsibility is not the best response.

Your sense of "unfavorable" is subjective. I don't want anybody to think they shouldn't hide a cache because I, personally, won't like it. I don't expect every cache to meet my personal standards and tastes. That's what forums are for, to discuss personal tastes and opinions. Very frequently people are afraid to mention these things in their logs, and if they do their log gets deleted. So they shouldn't be worried about discussing it here either. It would be nice to avoid these caches by reading the logs, but very often there is no indication about the area, only TFTC and copy and paste logs, such as in this case here.

A nonexistent toll booth shouldn't create a problem, and an actual toll booth should not be an issue unless it is granting access to a privately owned area. Of course you could always dress up in a uniform and set up your own toll booth on weekends, which would likely cause a problem..

I'm not going to post the specifics or details, but there have been more than a few incidences in proximity of lousy hides, along with a CO arrest for other reasons. Open to the public doesn't mean lurking behind the business without permission. Also, Cracker Barrel wasn't too happy with objects missing off their porches along with geocachers showing up after the business was closed. Stealing materials such as scrap metal, does not fit the definition of robbery. Tell me, what exactly happened to all of the trackable coins put into circulation?

Yeah, there were a few people that were unable to ignore your comments, but yet gave unsolicited advice to ignore the nasty locations. This is a discussion forum. Are we all supposed to read the original post and respond, "Yeah, that is sketchy" and let the thread die? What's the point of having the forum if everyone's just going to whine at the mere fact of someone's response? The third post was a sharp comment seemingly intended to mute the OPs concern. The subsequent posts chimed in to tell him to ignore it and move on. Exactly what is the point of the forum if everyone is going to whine at the OP? There was a significant amount of people defending lame hides many years ago. The presence of a geocache somehow made any place magical, and every one was a special gift. This was after the game came out of the woods and into parking lots around 2005. Any protests about the lousy places were met with resistance from defenders of the lame to filter them out. Today most of those people do not cache anymore, but their cries to be quiet about the nasty places are still a forum meme apparently. Yeah, every cache was magical sometime around 2003 when there wasn't that many. Today some of these cache locations may have an ulterior motive to bring traffic to an area in an attempt to see if anyone notices, so that the CO can go and pilfer whatever is stored behind these businesses. Or to use it as an excuse for being there. I don't feel that these locations should be ignored, but perhaps each one should be put under a scope to determine exactly why. An LPC out front of the business may be for the numbers, but the others behind the building in a crappy spot? Why, exactly? To ignore is the essence of ignorance. The spamming of commercial private property without any permission while Groundspeak winks, is just one gripe that I have about the game.

Yeah, there were a few people that were unable to ignore your comments, but yet gave unsolicited advice to ignore the nasty locations.

Of course you meant this:

We'll since you are in Florida, that's not too far from Cuba, which is completely open..

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I had a hard time fitting one under a lamp post skirt. Fortunately, there were lots of lamp posts in that parking lot If you cut the pieces correctly, you can fit a smaller muggle body under a dozen or so. Bigger muggles require at least 20. It's also recommended to glue them shut and leave a few unused every 530 feet to prevent some noob from forcing them open to hide a film can. Why go to all that trouble? There are plenty of plots available in the Jimmy Hoffa Memorial Cemetery near you (also know as the Pine Barrens to the noncognoscenti) The latest trend is hiding them in urban locations. There's a few ends of guard rails that you can stuff severed arms and legs into, but it takes up plenty of highway mileage. I've had limited success with strapping earth magnets to the torso and just sticking them to the back side, hoping a possum will gnaw them away.

Here's a review of Freedompop by Time: http://techland.time.com/2013/06/05/freedompops-free-wireless-would-be-cool-if-it-wasnt-so-shady/ This is compared to Groundspeak, that openly offers a completely optional premium membership? Amazon reviews: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/reviews/B009FCGAQC?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0 I don't think you are going to get any sympathy here, being that you haven't found or hidden anything yet, but yet are whining about paying for something that you don't need.

I had a hard time fitting one under a lamp post skirt. Fortunately, there were lots of lamp posts in that parking lot If you cut the pieces correctly, you can fit a smaller muggle body under a dozen or so. Bigger muggles require at least 20. It's also recommended to glue them shut and leave a few unused every 530 feet to prevent some noob from forcing them open to hide a film can.

It's great that you posted in here, as it's evident that premium membership is not for you. It's also obvious that geocaching is not for you either, so you don't need to visit geocaches and raid the golf balls and McDonalds toys to leave receipts and rocks. Most of the planet reads that article and thinks that it's great how 3 people built a company from the ground up, but somehow you think that it's wrong enough to make your blood boil. Groundspeak is a business that makes money like any other business. They pay their employees like any other business. Whether they spend their salary on ski lift tickets and food is their business. This isn't a homeless supply outfit with volunteers leaving supplies in the woods, it's a game. It's completely free and premium membership is completely unnecessary, as well as the app. I'll be nice and guess you are posting from Cuba, Venezuela, or Russia. I looked into freedompop, and discovered plenty of users complaining that they were a scam and bottom feeders. Customer service puts you on hold for a long time and then hangs up. Others don't use the equipment at all, but then get billed outrageous usage fees. Positive feedback is written in the style of one person. Looks like the Feds will eventually shut them down after a few years of ripping people off. If this is the type of service that you were expecting here from Groundspeak, then you are living in some communist fantasy world. And guess what, the QR code game and others all have premium membership modeled in their business similar to this one.

Geocaching is completely free. Premium membership is completely unnecessary, and so is the $10 app. Seems rather odd that you want the completely unnecessary premium membership right away, and then complain about it. There are thousands of people who have been geocaching for years without any premium membership, smartphone, or attitude.

I would expect that they are either asking the park about its replacement, or fixing it with their knowledge. Their note doesn't really give me reason to "expect" that: How does "devise a clever scheme" translate to "work with the Park to have this stone replaced"? Let's see. There's places that will create a custom metal sign for $30. Contact the park manager and offer to donate the sign and materials to replace it. Sounds like a clever scheme to me, along with being vague, as to not give away any more info. They could also locate another marker nearby and use that if it exists. With 500 finds, and in a National Park, there's not too much they can get away with without someone noticing.

And there's absolutely nothing in the logs that indicate a nasty area, or would prepare anyone for it. Quite often you can't always avoid or ignore until you are a few hundred feet away. But then it doesn't look too bad until you reach ground zero and find broken glass, needles, and condoms. Sadly the truth is that some people like those types of places. I've found a baggie of pot in a cache, and know of another cache where the FTFer disposed of a small baggie of white powder. I don't have any idea why even a drug user would think that it would be a good idea to use either, especially if it was from an unknown source, but those types of nut jobs are out there, and they'll likely defend the location by telling you to ignore it. This one appears to be behind a bar which might actually be nice on the inside, which is why the hider put it there. Skulking and lurking behind the building, while acting suspicious is quite a different story, especially because it likely doesn't have permission. Unfortunately these types of hides are getting common, and you should just seek out hides in green areas or parks. Wait until you find one between two abandoned buildings, and then hear about both having the wiring and piping stripped out a month later.

I would expect that they are either asking the park about its replacement, or fixing it with their knowledge.