4wheelin_fool

If you say you lost something, they may offer to help. Just tell them you are geocaching, and if they don't know what that is then tell them. Most people will not muggle a cache, unless it's an ammo box and it's young kids who are curious. If you don't feel like explaining it, just say if they find a backpack containing porn, whiskey, and ammo to leave it alone, as it belongs to a zombie shapeshifter who has been stalking you for seven years, and at that point they will usually leave quickly. If not just keep repeating the same phrases over and over while raising your voice.

It was originally posted in off topic, so perhaps it was believed that theOP was not serious. The QR code game gives awards for all kinds of silly achievements, so perhaps that's what he was thinking about.

That could indeed be a factor. Back when I started, you could get 5 .30 cal's from Cheaperthandirt.com, or Cabellas.com for $20. And I believe 4 .50 cal's for the same price. These days I'm seeing a few plastic ammo cans from Harbor Freight Tools (I assume they're everywhere in the U.S.). I bought one for a door prize for an event, and I believe they are $8 or $9. Almost exactly the size of a .30 cal. But kinda cheaply made. EDIT: Now a SINGLE .30 cal ammo can is $17.72 at Cheaperthandirt.com. Rat bastages. Ten bucks here. http://www.armysurplusworld.com/display.asp?subDepartmentID=118 They are great for storing leftovers.

Well http://coord.info/GC5FZNM is a new multi on Saten Island which is a great example of an excellent, high quality cache, although you better get it soon because one stage is just too obvious and likely to get muggled. Make sure you bring a UV light and actually use the map pieces rather than taking a pic.

Most cachers probably don't care what others think of them, and will only be concerned if the cache they were looking for goes missing because of them being spotted. As long as the non cacher does not see you retrieve or place it back, they likely won't have an idea what you are looking for, and that means that they probably won't find it either because they do not know what it is. Most other cachers will identify themselves, give hints or spoilers if they see you. I had a few people on occasion shout "you'll never find it" from a car, and I thought it was humorous and took it as a joke, but when I tried using that phrase myself on someone they got annoyed. Likewise someone saying they spotted you molesting a bench was likely intended as humor, and I'm guessing they were not sure you were even geocaching until they saw your log. Just ask if you suspect another cacher. Saw a few logs that went like this: " , followed by another log on the same day.

Our reviewers usually publish them in batches, perhaps twice a day. It typically takes a few days for one to go through. However I had one published instantly while I was still at the cache site after submitting it with my phone. I only noticed it as I was editing the page, and had only submitted it on a whim anyhow. As there were about 20 others published at exactly the same time, I can only guess that the publication was completely accidental.

I don't know how exactly it could be used in a court setting, as they would have to prove the finds were legitimate, and that you logged them. You could always log your finds a few months late and this might cause them to lose interest, or log them with a note so that they would not be searchable, and then change them to a find a year later. Since most people rarely do audits, you could also post a few fake finds in a foreign country to mock any perceived validity they may have. Just don't do many different countries on the same day or someone will likely notice and get upset. For example you could write notes for 10 finds in your area, and simultaneously post 10 finds in Germany. After a month delete the German finds and change them to Africa. If they are backdated behind current finds, likely they will not affect anything.

Yeah, I remember a numbers run team being ripped to shreds in the forums because they wrote a team name on the outside of containers, rather than opening the containers, writing the team name on the log, and replacing the log in the container. Now, fungible caches are placed specifically for numbers runs, and the caches themselves aren't even replaced in their original locations. Ah, good times...good times. Yes, finding 312 caches in 24 hours with a sharpie was the newest world record in 2006. The thread starts out enthusiastic enough and then goes downhill from there. http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=133233 I'm puzzled. Why are we congratulating people on behavior that continues to encourage the explosion of lame urban caches? I'm just puzzled. That's all. I see the group who set the record as exploiting an existing situation, not encouraging it. I really don't think people are going to see this and start setting out hundreds of lame micros in hopes someone will come over from Germany to set the new record in their town.

One does not simply hide a cache. Hiding of cache is a fine art, to be achieved only with the proper inspiration, guidance, and knowledge. Although Google trends does confirm this. http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=geocache&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Www.geocaching.com I believe the saturation point occurs after every storm.

Wow. It looks so different than it does now. I like the site navigation better as it is today, but the etiquette of the other cachers and discussion seems so much better back then. Thanks for sharing. It's interesting to see what happened to those early caches. Here is the updated version of the cache mentioned. Unfortunately it didn't turn out too well. http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC9FC_lunch-hour-cache?Submit6=Go Here is the latest one, hidden 220 feet from the other in 2008. It looks like the placer was unaware of the previous hide, and was complaining about all of the micros in the area, so they hid a larger cache. It too, needs maintenance now, and the new hider hasn't logged in since 2012. One thing that hasn't changed is the prevalence of lousy containers, and people who lose interest. New, enthusiastic people will always join and make the same exact mistakes. Forever green.

Time travel to 2001. Cache page. Discussions here. And here.

Yeah, what I liked was reading the logbook. Most people would write a few sentences about how they got there and finding it, as well as mentioning anything traded. By contrast, today there is just a list of nicknames which is intended as proof of visiting. It's a bit silly because very few people do audits on the logbook anyway. I recall recently opening a logbook from 2007 and finding four pages filled up with nearly 100 names, while the other 116 were blank. I suppose this practice started sometime around 2005 when micros suddenly became popular and proving you were there and not cheating was most important.

Well, still, you could have replied and helped her out..

What they should've done was change the software, limiting the multi logging to 50 attends per event per person without telling anyone. The event organizers then would likely get upset and have a knee jerk response, complaining about it in here, setting the stage for some self combustion. At that point they could change the limit to 1 per person, and it would seem that it would be the end result of organizers initiative. If they didn't take the bait, then the amount could gradually be whittled down over a few years. However it's more likely that the benefits of the events greatly outweigh any multi logging, so there's a good chance the bizarre tradition will continue.

So if the same exact email was worded with a slight personal touch, and they did not mention that they emailed others, then it wouldn't have set the alarms off?

It's funny how different situations elicit different responses. Logging you own event is fine, but logging your own cache is not. But wait, if it's hidden under a different account, such as would be done for a power trail, then it's fine. Logging the same cache twice is a no no, but if it gets archived and the exact identical hide gets relisted with a different GC#, then it's okay. It's not really the act that's wrong, but if the same account or GC# involved in it, then it is. Logging your own event only came about when the event logs were changed from find to attended. One reason why this was done was to encourage people to only log it once, as attending something multiple times in the place of logging temporary caches was silly. But then people had to log that they attended their own event, so then this started..

It's spam because she's just mass emailing anyone who owns a current event cache, wanting the hosts to tell everyone about her project, all the while using GC.com's email system to do it. It isn't like she's emailing friends...she even admits she's just looking for any and all event hosts. Either way, it doesn't matter. I contacted Groundspeak and pretty quickly they replied, promising to take care of the issue. It's only a single email from another cacher. They are not asking you to buy anything, and it's only impersonal because it's generic. I don't know why this would be cause to be reported or even a forum thread, but my response would be to either reply or to delete it. Now if they sent several emails or were selling something that would be different. I'm simply amazed at how a single email could cause consternation so easily.

They are not asking for you to buy anything, only to share stories. Why would this be spam?

They may get annoyed, but since you have attempted contact without any reply, I don't think they will get their knickers in a twist.

Then do it. Make a bunch and sell them on ebay for $7. You'll make a $5 profit and twist the knickers of other sellers who list them at $10 - $12.

I just refuse to allow DNFs to get my knickers in a twist.

It means Simple Logger. <snip> Huh, I thought it meant "Signed Log". At least it does around here... When I read that, I took it as a (welcomed) cut at folks who use such things (as being Simple), instead of using full words such as Signed Log. Perhaps a smiley at the end of the line would have indicated that it was a play on words. My initial thoughts were to write that it stood for Satanic Liaison, as people who used acronyms were really secretly reaffirming a pact with the devil, and aligning themselves with all of the dark forces in the universe. It was going to be a 300 word diatribe, along with a picture of a she-devil sitting on a Mercedes SL. However in the end I figured it would just take too much time to write all of that out and just be a PITA.

They've done what should be expected from keeping it from spreading and jumping to regular caches. The event page will be archived eventually and it will go away until the next time. Letting the malarkey linger on a traditional cache is just asking for it to spread like a bad case of gonorrhea.

and here I've only been charging $30 for climbing lessons. What a sucker I am. Yeah, that's also going to cut into my business once they figure it out for themselves. How about hiding a few 5/5s, laughing maniacally, and not answering the phone for a few weeks? Well, that sounds fun.....Or even better.....incredibly difficult challenges rated 5/5 and placed in a guardrail and/or light pole. Then you can fool folks into paying for nuttin'. As a side note, I actually did get privately solicited for climbing lessons after posting that, believe it or not. As promised, I offered the good ole discussion forums discount. All kidding aside, that's great! And it's also great to have a forum discount, as I didn't think anyone read them anymore.

Dang, that's *good*! I'm going to remember that next time I want to place a vacation cache! That's a foolproof maintenance plan. Brilliant! Hey! Who said "geotrash" under their breath?! When it comes to micros, its an excellent idea and works well. There is also no reason for there to be any geotrash if he visits the area every year. There are currently thousands of geocaches awaiting maintenance from owners who live nearby them, but just aren't interested. Likely they will be archived and turned into geotrash. Perhaps an alternate idea would be to provide a list of all of the high number cachers in the area, and create a frequency analysis chart of the likelyhood of one of them leaving a throwdown? That there is geotrash, veteran geotrash.