Sharks-N-Beans

Sometimes I feel really stupid asking questions here, and this is no exception. What is the difference between a regular cache and a TB Hotel, other than the CO called one a hotel?

wellies, jgfhjgfh, geocacher, sharks-n-beans, muggle, nano jgfhjgfh, geocacher, muggle and nano were highlighted as having an issue...none were corrected on my side.

It was great to visit late summer in Chile for about a week and a half. I got back yesterday and we are waiting for another snow. This is Moai, or more precisely "No te Moai" in Santiago. I also took a trip up into the Andes, but the bus wouldn't stop when we were within 200' of another cache. Next time I'll just rent a car.

We had one of those here, but it got blown-up by the bomb squad. The novel we placed in it was identified in the paper.

That tool requirement will go unnoticed by the vast majority of today's cachers who do not read cache pages. Too bad. I like caches that require a bit of field work.

Kind of sad to think a cache can no longer be the catalyst behind a new geocaching feat.

Cold Stone? Purity? You have to be kidding! They fold all kinds of impurities into their ice cream. We should ban ice cream with that stuff folded into it, especially Gummy Bears! Who folds Gummy Bears into ice cream?! And I don't know about anyone else, but I feel ice cream is being destroyed by the amount of tiny cones being allowed to be used in some restaurants and ice cream shops. I can see the point of full-sized cones but am really fed up of fantastic ice cream being totally wasted with tiny pointless little cones that hold only a thimbleful of ice cream, that you can't even get your family excited by. Again they're not so bad if they're clever flavors like cardamom–pistachio or lemon–ginger but just sticking vanilla soft-serve in a tiny thimble-sized cone is really starting to wind me up... It's not what ice cream is about! I find those tiny cones hard to hold...there just so tiny.

Well, that's probably again a matter of personal preference. I neither liked the video (to put it politely) nor would have been such a lab cache of any attraction to me. Locations which are unattractive to me, driving between them and then ending up at the house of a friend .... I can understand that the person who created the video and his children liked this experience (and this is the only thing that plays a role when it comes to a private cache), but this lab cache definitely would be nothing I would enjoy. Cezanne I guess I'm not into blogging or vlogging. After (what? 12 seconds?) I turned the video off. Okay. Woody Jr can stick out his tongue at the world. Wow! Boring! I guess I'm not into vlogging. Boring! C'mon man? The topic was to share. The video was graciously shared with, I'm sure, no expectation of critique.

The game is called geocaching, not sight-seeing, not hiking. We are hear to enjoy a good overall geocaching experience, that enhances the location, not detracts from it. I enjoy reading the old forum sometimes. I believe this discussion took place many times within the first month. Funny, the only rule was leave something, take something. Not even a mention of signing a log.

You can't trade in micro shells and pebbles either. So I'm left with you want to ban hides that you don't like.

A much more respectable point of view than some I have read here.

Posts like this always remind me of the nano I found at the top of a very long set of steps in the side of a mountain. The hike was up something like 1089 steps and then a mile along the trail at the top. The cache was a nano. I was sorely tempted to unroll the log and write "found at half past three on a lovely sunny September afternoon. The views from the top are amazing. Thanks so much for bringing me to this amazing spot", and then immediately logging NM on the basis the log was full. I take it the CO mistakenly listed it as something other than a micro?

What does that mean?

Setting up a cache is different. Start with the travel bug decal on the guitar. You can update the Travel Bug Page with the coordinates and dates you will be performing. If I wanted to see you perform, I would check-out your travel bug page and see when and where I might find you. In addition, you could set-up an event from time to time for cachers to meet and hear you perform (and maybe join-in a jam session). It would be cool to attract other musician/cachers. Non musician cachers may just like to listen and chat. If you really want to do a cache, set-up a cache at a location you regularly play. It would be fun to be performing and from time to time see someone snooping around.

Thanks Bruce for the lab cache. It was a great surprise this morning. My adventure was about 4 stages (like a Multi Cache, finding things (Pirate ship), numbers, pictures etc. and at the end I combined the answers to get the code to log the lab cache and I received my personal message). I did it with the whole family and I made many great pictures. So the lab cache was perfect for this sunny Saturday morning. Cool. Thanks for sharing in the spirit of this thread. I've been waiting to hear.

Well, in this case GC30, people delight in the thought of someday visiting, knowing full well it's partially buried. Sure, it's grandfathered, but if guidelines really meant never, it would have been archived some time ago. Yes, the issue is complex... Geocaching roots are in buried caches. It doesn't seem unreasonable that land managers in the early days became of this via a simple internet search and some may have aggressively pursued prohibiting the activity. The threat of prohibition was an early concern and at some point the anti-burying requirement was enacted on this site. Given the fear of prohibition as a driver for the restriction, it is not very logical that buried caches remain as evidence for current day land managers to discover and enact prohibition. From this thread, which is also very easily found by inquiring land managers, it is evident that caches continue to be buried and also that there does not exist a predominant opinion that buried caches are bad. I think the latter point is interesting as that was not the case in the forum, I think, when I began caching 3 years ago. Maybe there are just so darn many caches and Geocaching has gotten so clean and urban that many feel the loss of caching in parks and forests is no longer catastrophic. But there are cachers that think it would be catastrophic and therefore the guideline enforced. In good conscience, they can't just walk away. They see this just as important as running into a land owner who tells them they want a cache placed w/o permission to be removed. The finder goes straight to NA because anything else could delay an important archive. Most here would not blame them, I suppose. Reporting a buried cache for archive, however, will bring the cache cop crowd. This is a phenomenon that makes me think the issue is complex. Maybe deep down, we love buried caches, and, I think, there would exist some psychological theory that we therefore love Geocaching. So we encounter this paradox which is to say we love buried caches which could lead to the end of Geocaching in some areas.

No need to be upset. You already know why...see bold. We traded some nice swag for a 10yr Blue Switch Geocoin when we first started. About a month later we finally realized what it was and moved it along. It's part of learning.

Knowing a little more now, I would keep it as is just to see just how long this little step-child of a cache can last. That's just me, though. It seems like a cache that should not have survived but somehow does.

Keep it going. I just saw a 12 yr old 496 find cache was archived in the area today. Kind of sad, I think.

I am fairly certain they will expire if not found by the end of February. See post #218

See this thread.

Shark was a pretty active tree climber for awhile. I think 66' was her max. If you are looking for confirmation that climbers would not think you were being cheesy by using another method, here's one vote of confirmation. Go for it. The truly worthy 4 and 5 Ts will still be difficult (thinking about controlling a 66' pole).

I guess I can accept that for some people the definition of what is a cache is based on how it participates in one's statistics. There are certainly people who find it absurd to refer to events as caches, but since they count in stats just like everything else other will insist these are caches. On the other hand it has been shown that creating things that don't count in statistics such as waymarks or the now defunct challenges result in many geocachers bypassing them altogether - no matter how much fun or how related to geocaching they might be. Benchmarks are so well hidden that most people are probably not even aware that they exist. Lab caches certainly fall into a new ground in that they get counted in one statistic (overall find count) but are ignored in all others. This is certainly causing consternation to those who define things by statistics. Are they caches or not? There are many people for whom statistics is not all that important. They may actually enjoy visiting waymarks or scanning QR codes for the game who must not be named. They might view all of these activities as geocaching, whether or not they are listed on Geocaching.com. There are other people for whom the record of geocaching is the logs they create to share their experience. So long as lab caches don't have written logs that can be reviewed and reminisced over at a later time, it might not matter what statistics they are counted in. They wont be caches. It's kinda sad that instead of trying things to see if they are fun or interesting to us we need to put numbers to them (or have souvenirs) or else we deem them to have no value. (I fully expect that at the end of February, Groundspeak will tout the statistics for how many I <3 Geocaching lab caches were created and found.) I don't post attended logs, rather notes for events. I never did a challenge, but would have refrained from logging. This I GC thing gives us an out as our joint account won't allow us to mistakenly log our own lab...pretty cool.

I would state on my event page "I expect the event to go until at least 10pm unless everyone leaves earlier". I would state on my event page "We will meet at 9am at the posted cords for coffee, danish and lively conversation. Around 9:30 we will depart to take in the sights of the 8km Pickaname Trail and hopefully wrap things up around 2:00pm."

I don't know the structure of the Lab design page or HQ's ultimate intention, but it would be cool if it was something else. I would like a function that allowed me to set-up a location based activity for one or more people and did not impact my Geocaching at all. I would use it with friends, family and other cachers. It would be great if Premium Members could create as many as they wanted, but you wouldn't even need an account to find it. I would like the ability to choose if it was private or available to all GS Members.