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    After tragic death of experienced geocacher - what needs to change?

    in General geocaching topics

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    As I have said in a previous post, I believe that this is the first time a death has been directly attributed to the actual seeking of a cache. Am I wrong? :unsure:

     

    Creston RCMP and BC Coroners investigate accidental death of geocacher

     

    WOW. Thanks for that link. Another death this year. Interesting, but also sad.

     

    The person linked above was just on scene. It was not suggested that he was going in for the find.

     

    Okay, rephrase..... I do believe that this is the first death directly attributed to final retrieval of a cache?

     

    Do I have that right? Was he going in for the find? Do we really know for sure? Is there a German news article?

     

    It makes you wonder how many people have died geocaching, people that the news doesn't report or know they were out geocaching, and simple reports on a tragic death of a hiker or rockclimber etc. who has died while performing those feats.

     

    My deepiest sympathy to the local community and the family of this cacher.

    Is REI *really* overpriced?

    in General geocaching topics

    Posted

    ...Is that 5% really worth saving 14 dollars? What is the interest rate on the charge card? 23%? Thats where they get you. Unless you pay it off right away, they are making money off you, and you think you are saving an extra 14 bucks.
    I fall under your "unless..." clause. I pay my bills in full when due; never paid credit card interest in my life.

     

    But even for others, cc interest can't be where REI's profit on this deal comes from. REI gives the customer dividend, but it's the bank/CC company that gets the merchant fees and interest.

     

    thats good, alot of people don't pay off thier charge cards in full and on time. Regardless if REI or its banks are making money off the interest, if you don't pay off your CC bills, they are making far more money off you in interest and finiance charges every month, then that 14 bucks you saved from setting up a charge card.

    Is REI *really* overpriced?

    in General geocaching topics

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    ...I can get a garmin anywhere (and in fact did on Amazon twice). Same product but a cheaper price...
    That was the kind of thing I was looking for when I started this thread. I just spot checked pricing eTrex 30:

     

    Amazon: $250, REI: $280. But knock 10% dividend off and REI is only $252. Use an REI charge card for an extre 5% dividend, brings it down to $238. So at this moment, an REI member can get a better deal on that GPS than an Amazon shopper.

     

    Yet to realize that dollar benefit there would have to be other stuff you'd want to buy at REI over the course of time. I was wondering if anyone else had done the math on other purchases at other times, to see if it's really worth while?

     

    Is that 5% really worth saving 14 dollars? What is the interest rate on the charge card? 23%? Thats where they get you. Unless you pay it off right away, they are making money off you, and you think you are saving an extra 14 bucks.

    Guidelines for placing geocaches in South Carolina

    in South and Southeast

    Posted

    GPSFUN is the reviewer for SC, he is more than helpful. I do know that SC DOT has a policy that no caches are allowed on thier right of ways (the side of the road to include guard rails and bridges.) I had a couple caches not allowed because I had them on a guard rail on a small bridge on a back country paved road. I was told that hwy patrol will seek out the hider and fine them.

    Re-Finds

    in General geocaching topics

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    Having two smileys for one cache is cheating in my eyes, and I wouldn't re-find it, and you are only cheating yourself. Those are the rules I play by. If you feel its not wrong to log two smileys because it moved then do so.

     

    We have a local moving cache here and although I only found/logged it once the rule on the cache page states you may find it multiple times, just (i believe) 5 cachers have to find it in-between your finds. Some have logged this cache many multiple times over the years. Are they cheating? IMHO, they are not.

     

    And in thier eyes they aren't cheating, and I do not think they are cheating, because they are playing thier game, but everyone plays this game different. I would feel I was cheating myself, and wouldn't log it again.

    Re-Finds

    in General geocaching topics

    Posted

    All EvilTree said was that it was temporarily disabled, not archived. I don't own any caches, but the CO can do that without help from a reviewer, right? And make coordinate changes on his own?

     

    In the post that I was responding to, he said it had been archived. He may have meant "disabled", but I saw "archived".

     

    You can't move coordinates that far by yourself. It takes a reviewer to move more than 528', I believe.

     

    This one has a new Distance from the original GZ of 944.9 feet .

     

    The reason I noticed it was that it was archived for a long time and just came back to life...

     

    I know of a local cache that has been moved over 1000 ft. Down a different path, in a new area, and a different hide, but still has the same GC number. :blink:

     

    I have no idea why a CO would move a cache a couple hundred feet, and not archive it and start a new one. I think that is as bad as someone logging it as a found. If the cache owner can do that and feel good about themselves, then a finder should be able to log it and feel good about themselves.

     

    That being said I will often go re-find a cache that has been moved a significant amount. Hunting for and finding new caches is what it is about for me. However, if it has the same GC number I just log it with a note, not a found.

     

    As to the idea of cheating. This is generally a personal game, not a competition. If you decide how you want to play, then play that way every-time, it would be hard to say you were cheating. Just playing different.

     

    edited to say, I somehow quoted the wrong post. However, you still get my point. :huh::)

     

    the cheating part is commented here is what I mean

    Re-Finds

    in General geocaching topics

    Posted

    I'd probably never notice a cache like this. But if I did notice it, I might go find it again - if it's in an area I like to visit, I almost certainly would. Whether I logged that as second find would depend on whether the owner was inviting new finds on the cache page. If yes, then yes, if not, I'd probably be too lazy to ask. If I'd taken pics I wanted to post, I'd write a note, mostly likely.

     

    It's moved over 528 feet, it's a new hunt.

     

    Pup Patrol "I wouldn't log a "found it" for it, if it's the same GC code. I'm kind of a stickler for accuracy in our stats, so posting a "found it" log for the same GC code wouldn't be my thing."

     

    Wouldn't your stats be more accurate if you did log a new find on a new hunt? or are you saying that, because it's got the same GC Code, you'd never hunt it? I guess the second.

    I enjoy the activity enough that I'd not ignore a hunt just because of the GC Code, myself.

     

    TheLoneGrangers, "Having two smileys for one cache is cheating in my eyes, and I wouldn't re-find it, and you are only cheating yourself."

     

    How is logging a new find on a new location, "cheating"? If the cache owner archived the original listing and resubmitted the cache as a new one, it's EXACTLY the same cache hunt, but you'd log that, and consider logging the other some form of "cheating yourself"?

     

    I find this all very peculiar.

     

    I should have been more clear, new GC code is a new cache. Same GC code then its cheating to me. If you don't think its cheating, then claim it again, its your rules. I am not calling others cheaters, only myself....and I don't cheat myself so I wouldn't do it

    Re-Finds

    in General geocaching topics

    Posted

    Having two smileys for one cache is cheating in my eyes, and I wouldn't re-find it, and you are only cheating yourself. Those are the rules I play by. If you feel its not wrong to log two smileys because it moved then do so.

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