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Perhaps he's just trying to find somebody smarter than him. Maybe he needs a smart friend.

This is excellent information. Thanks for posting it! I'll definitely be adding the details to my Garmin start-up screen. I include both my phone number and my geocaching screen name. I figure the odds are best that it will be left at a geocache, and found by a fellow geocacher. If not, the finder can call me anyway, but I don't have to tie the phone number in with my real name that way.

Most didn't notice it was there in the first place. True. Just the elite.

Most didn't notice it was there in the first place. I'd beg to differ. I think a lot of people noticed, but didn't care for the way they implemented it. Primarily disliking the rehashing of caches from this site rather than encouraging new, unique caches. And the lack of any real structure was a joke. Had they taken the time to think it through and create something useful, we might have seen some real competition. But what actually happened was more like a knee jerk reaction to a disagreement with tptb and then cobbling together a hurried up, disjointed, reactionary site which never had a chance. Very well put, GeoBain. That's the way that I see it as well.

Your post cracked me up! We're kindred spirits! I really, really wish I could elaborate on things like other people do - writing eloquent, vivid descriptions of their adventure, but it's just not in me. (In fact, I had to look at a Thesaurus just to write that sentence, LOL! ) Jenny Are you serious? This recent log of yours is AWESOME!

That's my buddy, Jake. A great guy! You are not alone, Bubbles, by wishing he was still in the game more. He did put out some very fun hides, but has been increasingly frustrated by lowest-effort logging on caches that he put a lot of effort into, by the apparent preference of cachers for a large group of low-effort hides vs. going after a single lone hide that was well done, and frankly, by what seems to him to be inconsistency and poor judgement from our reviewer. He also has recently had several changes to his lifestyle that put geocaching at a much lower priority in his life. So THIS is what happens when you start a thread and then leave the forum for a few days. Lol! Good times. Anyway, my main and only point was I wish he wouldn't go and if he has to, I wish he'd let people adopt his caches. Didn't mean to get you outed, Jake! Sorry! Love your caches! I don't think Jake is too "outed" by this. In fact, I sent him a link to this thread, hoping that seeing it will help change his mind and realize that there really are still geocachers that care about quality hides.

I don't know of anyone, not locally, and not on these forums, that would ask for any more than 'Walked past a horse, it got dark.'. That is an honest attempt at a unique log that does share something about your experience. NOBODY is asking ANYBODY to write a novel, and encyclopedia, or the entire works of William Shakespeare.

Then...maybe don't use your smartphone to log. You don't HAVE to log in the field, you know. There's also the ability to edit one's log. I will often put out a short log via my phone to get a particular thought out about my search, but come back later and edit it for errors and to add description. I know the edits don't show up in notifications, but at least they are there for future finders. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! Why? Why? WHY? Just wait until you can get to a proper keyboard, like we always used to do.

Then...maybe don't use your smartphone to log. You don't HAVE to log in the field, you know.

That's my buddy, Jake. A great guy! You are not alone, Bubbles, by wishing he was still in the game more. He did put out some very fun hides, but has been increasingly frustrated by lowest-effort logging on caches that he put a lot of effort into, by the apparent preference of cachers for a large group of low-effort hides vs. going after a single lone hide that was well done, and frankly, by what seems to him to be inconsistency and poor judgement from our reviewer. He also has recently had several changes to his lifestyle that put geocaching at a much lower priority in his life.

Dear Mr. Reviewer, This is 3K Finder's uncle., I am lucky enough to live in a very special, distant exotic vacation spot, and would be glad to perform any necessary maintenance on 3K's new cache here, if you will go ahead and publish it. Any time the cache is not returned to its proper hiding place, I will gladly find which table it was left at, and return it to its rightful spot under the bar. Yours, StarvingResortOwner (and uncle of that geo-whatever guy)

I know it doesn't sound right. It's the perception of a problem that seems to be the reason for all the flak. PTs are a different animal from regular geocaching and people seem happy to visit them and are more than willing to replace damaged or missing containers. I'm not intending to be a PT defender by any means. I just think the maintenance angle is not the same for a PT as for regular caching and probably not worth all this concern. I didn't care for the PT cache linked above where the CO requested that people replace missing caches but I have no problem with people wanting to do that. It seems that if you build a PT they will come... and they will replace. Re: the bolded portion I don't think anybody disputes that. The issue, as I see it, is that they are all Traditional caches... no other distinction aside from proximity, and even that isn't necessarily true. But one set of traditional caches get one set of rules, while the other set of traditionals gets a different set?

Some people think I'm too serious but I'm really a fungi. Moss say, I've taken a lichen to this thread, with so little in spore taste. - There's probably a morel to the story. And the log is mush with no more room. Well-played. I think I have a new geocaching term: Mushroom cache. The log is mush and there's no room. Love it!

I'm not saying right or wrong but almost from the beginning PT's were mostly maintained by PT seekers.....the dynamics of so many containers being hit so often would make it very hard for a single CO to keep it up so it was expected that you bring a sack of film cans and logs...if a throwdown happens its no problem to have 2 or 3 at GZ....like a spare tire. PT's are really a subset of normal geocaching. (see bolded) Yes, it sure would put a stop to unmaintainable power trails if the cache owner(s) had to do their own maintenance, wouldn't it?

Where would a note log by the cache owner requesting the next finder bring a replacement container fit into that spectrum?

Dick, as a fellow fly fisherman and geocacher, I must say that you have been quite the inspiration for me over the years. Alaska is still a dream for me. Maybe one day.

Huh? Pretty sure that was just fish humor. Any fin is possible but from where I'm perched it looked like PlantAKiss posted that for the halibut. I dolphinately cod of posted something better.

I am not suggesting that hides be stirred up to draw new interest to boring locations, I wouldn't do it. But SO WHAT if it WERE about the numbers.. the world doesn't revolve around those claiming that numbers don't matter. Does, too.

Huh? Pretty sure that was just fish humor.

It shouldn't be the *same* hide. It could be nearby, and it could be a similar container, but should not be a duplicate with a different GC#. In my area, King Boreas does that all the time. In fact, most of us know that if he archives a bunch from one area, don't bother trying to put some out there yourself... odds are he's already got the area filled again.

A. Perhaps the cache owner hadn't written the question up clearly, perhaps something has changed since they last visited the site, perhaps you simply screwed up. Pretty clear that you visited the site, from your other answers.

Using that logic, don't forget to fold GPS users into the brush you're painting with. Trackables will eventually be part of the Intro app. You haven't made clear exactly what you want views on. Is this only about encouraging critique of the Intro app, or is there something else you'd like views on? Does Groundspeak not encourage critiques of the Intro app? I thought they have stated that they do care what we think of it. I think this is an extremely valid point. As pointed out, GPSr users are, by very definition, already familiar with the website. Intro app users typically are not. They get their cache pages and coordinates from the app, they log their finds from the app, and they contact other users from the app message center. I hope that dealing with trackables from the app is a top priority.

I thought this was gonna be a thread about fishing with wet flies! Did the kid look like Bart Simpson?

But if the cache IS in a great location, putting out a new cache in that same area will tend to bring back those people that found the old one. Otherwise, you are just attracting new cachers to the area. (not saying that the older cachers can't come back for reasons other than caching... but we both know that they seldom do that)

Would that not more likely tell you that not everybody is cut out to be a finder? I always roll my eyes at some posts here.