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Since I changed from Netscape email to my Yahoo, they have been coming in light lightning every morning I have them scheduled! Before they were coming in waaaayy late in the day, even though the generated time was early in the AM...

I have a scenario to ask in this subject... Cacher A wants to archive a cache that has been muggled. The decision to do this is because the area has become worse as a hangout from the juvies' place from across a field, and not only did I find a homemade pipe (your guess?) there, but there were other nasty used trashy items as well. Cacher B wants Cacher A to let B place a new container so Cacher C can get the stats. What would YOU do? I personally would archive the cache and let B have the space if they want to take care of the trash, condoms, "weeds" and anything else that would make this area no longer a fun cache location.

We have seen/taken: Unregistered TBs or Geocoins, Compass/whistle combo, Parker pen sets, $5 bill, well-cammo'd micro container, Gift Certificates to places like Starbucks or for a free meal at Sonic and someone even mentioned a used but good working condition GPSr...

I think that for some of us, the first one we use is the best one...I have a Magellan 600, and since it was a higher-end unit to begin with, I don't plan on replacing it any time soon (barring dropping it into a porta-john somewhere). I like it, I have learned on it...and so because of that it is the best one...for me

We have the usual baggies, both snack and sandwich size, extra logsheets, pens and pencils of different lengths (I got them from my daughter's school at the end of the year, they were going to throw them away!); AND some contact cement, surgical tape, electrical tape, duct tape, sharpie markers, a white tire marker, small screwdriver (more for the battery cover on the Magellan), jewelry pliers (that can also cut small wire), and blank mailing labels... We have needed all of those things at one point or another so far this summer!

Quite a few of the caches around Pahrump, NV have a rating/description on them that say, "4-wheel necessary" or "Not for low-clearance cars and some family trucks"...those were the ones I thought would be fun, but hubby isn't in to getting nice new truckie all dinged up...

I always keep a pen in our truck, but once my daughter left it in a cache thinking it was supposed to be there, and another time she dropped it outside the truck while putting backa cache. Both times I to scramble a backup pen out of the caching debris bag...(swag bag for organized folk) to be able to sign the necxt log, which of course was from a cache with no implement. I think PENCILS are the hard thing, they are pokey and half of them that I see have no useable point on them, and no sharpener either.

Nobody can be Johnny-on-the-spot about checking caches. I found one here in our small town that had a previous finder leave a small (probably pretty at the time) carnation in the cache. Airtight, moist conditions...hmmm. It was nasty when we found it. I am always at least leaving some little dollar-store items in caches that are bare or minimum at best. My daughter (with her own account) doesn't care aobut teh swag unless there is something she is collecting (pins, polished rocks...)and we are sure to leave at lest the same amount or more. When we went to Nevada this last spring, we found not only more ammo cans, (desert is easier to hide those in I guess) but higher quality swag too. (Thanks again Turtle Lady!) So if it is in a possibly high-muggle area, I would think that low-quality swag would become the norm - just so it didn't get stolen. I would hate to lose a perfectly good unregistered TB to some muggle idiot that stumbles onto a cache by accident!

Alrighty then! Um...thanks I guess, someone locally was kind enough to explain how the log coding worked, in terms that (I guess obviously simple) people like me can understand...that is, an answer without the unnecessary sarcasm. Sorry! Since I got my answer, please close this thread.

but I thought I would ask...and yes, I DID try the search feature first... Is there a way to insert an avatar-sized image into a log on a cache? I just wondered, because our local group has a cool logo, and we are all in the process of updating caches and profiles...it would be kinda' neat to be able to sign a log for a cache with a small "stamp" of the logo. Maybe the avatar from the forums (I know they are separate) or something like that so it is small enough to not be a size issue... Just wondered! Thanks

The cacher in question is rude in his logs. He is not a seasoned veteran, nor is he a traditional "hiking" cacher. A lot of stat-madness, and an arrogance that has alienated him from an established group of veterans. It's not about the micros, but like I said before, the Pot calling the Kettle black. If you log how hate micros, dusty bushes or muddy trails, then you shouldn't make your own caches be micros, dusty bushes or muddy trails.

I have found that by using the NOTES sectionand then the LOG portion in GSAK, my daughter is able to log her own finds to the MO cachepages. THAT was the workaround that I was aware of from the previous thread (Thank you Groundspeak!) That makes the "family caching" work very well!

Well since I had a similar, but not the same, kind of situation, I hope there aren't any more repurcussions to the cache owners involved in my requests... One owner in Nevada allowed my 12yr old to log a find on ONE archived cache, that she actually found for ME back in April. My daughter didn't have her own account yet, only because I wanted to make sure she would stick with it. That WASN"T the only cache we found that trip (we are from California), but that was the only one she wanted to see if she could log online at the same date I did my log, because she really did find it. She isn't asking for the active caches to be given to her - she will go back and physically sign those herself - and that was her decision too! Unfortunately, by the time we make our trip again this next April, there may be even more archived. This cache owner was nice enough to allow her to log that one cache find. Since then someone has sent the cache owner a nasty email and mean accusing log to that Archived cache about allowing that kind of action. That "cacher", who has NO idea of our emails to each other, had no business judging this one log transaction or attacking the owner. If the OWNER is willing to allow a log for a person then it is the OWNER'S discretion. Obviously this owner is aware and active, and also quite nice in my book! If she hadn't wanted to allow the log, it would still have been ok to my daughter. If we had not been there to sign the log the first time, I wouldn't ask for permission to sign it anyway! I have gone to look for caches that are archived (being a dumb blonde, and forgetting to update GSAK that week!) and only found that out when I went to log the thing! We looked for one for quite a while, and after logging a DNF (boy did I feel stupid!) I got an email from the owner that it had been archived for quite a while. He didn't offer a find and I didn't ask. I just felt really silly looking for something based on old info!

Now that brings back some memories! Actually if you get some bundles of the single sheet stuff, and spread it around like a little flower girl at a wedding, then sneak over and turn on the bleeder-valve on their sprinkler system...that stuf just melts into a big soggy mess on the grass...

To be ABOVE his actions will indeed require that we behave in an adult manner - unlike how he has. No matter how much he irritates or insults. Purposeful abscence from finding his caches or anything else he is involved in will "speak volumes" with tact. Tact; noun That pointy implement with which one uses to hang a diploma on the wall. <edited for my inability to remember coding>

If it were a multi, it could go either way as a historical or puzzle. In what year did the LAPD have their biggest shootout in modern history? Take the last two digits...and so on. If the cache (physical) were at a slightly different location, and it had a heist or LAPD theme to get there, that could be really cool. I like history caches.

I wouldn't count it as a find, but... Similar situation, how would you answer this one? My daughter was caching with me from the start, and she actually found a couple of them on her own, but only I signed because she had no account. (I wanted to make sure she would stick with it first!) Now that she is really into it (found 51 already) I have asked 5 owners, whose caches we found together and are archived, if she can log online the find for the same date as mine. Not the rest of the active caches that she will go back and physically log herself, just those she has no chance of signing. So far they have all been really very nice about it, and have let her log those.

Yup..YOUR caches are LAME! Um...WHO are you again? Nope, I think you are a bit TOO south of us...

I think what Fearsum's point of view is, same as mine - as we are talking abour the same fellow, this guy has laid out many caches of his own, and in the same fashion/style/manner as the ones he has slammed in logs. Pot and Kettle syndrome...then he has the nerve to (nastier than us girls can do no less!) rip a very well-respected/liked/long-time cacher, when he really has no grounds to do so. Why? I am not sure...

Good one Rambler!

My daughter and I went to find a cache that appeared in my map program to be between properties. It stated that you did NOT go via the alley, approach from the front. But the coords sent us to the backyard, so I DNF'd it. Got an email that it was in the owner's FRONT yard, it was their house. So we went back the next day and drove by again. It is backed up to an "alley" that is a grassy easement kinda' thing for the power lines I think, so I wasn't sure which house it was from the front. There was someone standing out in their yard as we went by...the first time. Second pass there wasn't anyone ut there so I turned around and went back. Dang! They were standing out in the yard again, waiting for me to come by...we saw each other at the same time and started laughing. Turns out she had placed the cache there in the yard to actually MEET other cachers in the area. I did a coord reading there and came up with a bit of a distance from their reading, so they adjusted the coords on the cache page. I will place one in my yard, out front with explicit instructions, only so it is really easy for our Girl Scout troop to place and monitor a cache of their own. Then if they ever get tired of it, it will still be maintained by someone. It is also a way of making a "home" starting point for my travel bugs. If the cache owner lives in the house, I think it is fine...

Based on GAS PRICES, I would say city caches. That and the fact that I often have children with me who need frequent facilities' stops, or want to be able to find many in one day. Personally, I like those that are well-hidden, with some sort of a wordplay in the title and are somewhat remote. I am not an AVID hiker, but I do enjoy outdoors, fishing, photography... But then again, with most of our valley being remote rural towns, it is often easier to drive to a larger town and walk or bike around to catch many caches there.

I thought we had that AOL garBAge fixed already...I have Netscape, and I am just now this evening getting some PQ's that were scheduled for FRIDAY...Best thing I think I can do is change providers...again...

See, this is where (in my area) ASSUMING that the hider has indeed gotten permission to hide something can be dangerous. There are both property lines and easement lines and they are not the same thing. So far we have not had any problems with muggles being wicked...but that car-chase thing, wow. My former-cop cousin is quite a handy person to cache with in that case!

I use the FTF and User Column feature in GSAK. I track mine, my daughter's and my cousin's finds there since we all go caching together we share the FTF's anyhow... No icon though, not on GC.com...