6NoisyHikers

It's not critical to log from the field (or forest, or parking lot). It's okay for a cacher to wait until they get home at the end of the day if that means a longer, more descriptive log. Even trackables won't blow up if they are logged the next day.

That's one of the reasons why carrying (and using) trail marking tape is a good backup plan. Along with a real, paper topo map of the area. B. +100 My son and I went on a 10-hour trek up a mountain that was new to us. We flagged each trail split with pink tape with our initials and the date (so SAR would know it which way we went, if necessary). We came back down the same way and picked up each piece of tape on the way out.

Another point is that most cache pages for power trails or series are exactly the same. In that case, we generally won't read them. There is a trend in our area to create very detailed (yet still identical) cache pages for local series which include history about the area, park rules, photos, etc - all programmed in HTML. HTML doesn't transfer well to my GPS. It makes the description link on my Magellen GC almost unreadable. I appreciate the effort put in to creating the page, but I wish there was a simpler text-only conversion for my GPS. (Though that's a request for Magellan...)

Got our first "One more cache for me!" log the other day. First thing I did was try to contact the cacher about the fine art of writing unique logs - not possible, he's unvalidated. Second thought in my head: Maybe I'd better go check on this cache in case they rehid it better, or put candy or garbage in it, or dropped off a trackable they don't know how to log. That's one extra maintenance trip for me! (Good thing it's a five-minute walk from my house )

Oddly enough, that's pretty-much how our harassment started... - Instead of thinking it though, we were sent numerous emails, asking when we're finally gonna get the $&*)#@ thing by one. Another frequent emailer actually asked out loud to CJ at an event, "what plans we had on his cache" while we all were sitting down for dinner. I don't pq, use gsak or any of that stuff. I go for caches I'll do. If they're too far, I'll try to fit 'em with others (when "others" are placed). That means sometimes I may look at cache pages a few times. - Looking at a cache page without going for it doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Imagine if some of these caches shown on threads had nut jobs for COs. "Hey! Twenty people from all over the world just looked at my cache" What the..." l Can't say I memorize my audit log well enough to recall it at an event months later. Those who can and do have my respect and physical distance l often go back and read my old logs on the cache page or simply check-in on the latest on caches we've found. An extra-special CO might then wonder why we continue to view the cache page when we've already found it.

I don't think it was ever intended to "catch" everyone who viewed the page. It only intended to show who was interested in it. If someone wants to circumvent it for privacy/paranoia reasons they are welcome to do so. Many people use it as an indicator of interest, to see if they should archive it or not. Or if someone needs help with a puzzle. If it is intended to be an indicator of interest, then the only information needed would be the number of views - not the names of the cachers and how many times they looked at the page. We do have one PM cache - I made it that way because it was a custom-made container, though I realize now that being a two hour hike up the mountain is protecting it well enough I rarely look at the audit log, but when I do and see that my fellow cachers keep checking it out, all I think is "Come on! Go get it already!"

I'd like to know the history behind the creation of the audit log feature. It seems to be mostly useless at this point if it is so easy to circumvent. Time to be retired?

My issue with Lab Caches is the lack of ability to write a log online. If I were to go on one of these Earth to Echo adventures, I'd want to share the story as part of my caching history. And I, too, have a dumb phone and a dedicated GPS, so anything that requires wireless access in the field is out for me.

What a great story, Ibar! It's great to hear that you have developed a love for - and a sense of humour about - caching Here's to many more years of adventures for you!

Unfortunately Jewish community centers are all too often targets of hate crimes. I don't think it's very wise at all to hide a cylinder wrapped on duct tape just outside of one. If this doesn't have any type of permission, I don't think criminal charges would be out of line. Not in BC they aren't

My dad is a member of the SAR team out of 100 Mile House. He swears by his SPOT unit. His model sends three possible messages: A check in email to people on a list, a "hey, I'm not hurt, I'm just having technical difficulties and need assistance email to the same list, and an emergency call directly to a 911 service -all with coordinates.

People who place power trails around existing caches are one thing; cachers who lump existing caches into their cut-and-paste power trail logs are another. It's the latter that sounds like the issue. If it were my cache, I would start with a giant note both in the container (it is a good-sized container, right?) and in the description telling people that my cache is not part of the series and if they enjoyed finding it, that I would appreciate hearing about it in their log. After that, if I wasn't getting individualized logs most of the time, I'd probably archive it.

We have a GC and enter waypoints according to coordinates all the time. Never had to do a "projection" though, but we are willing to give it a shot.

We have one cache hidden in a hole that tumbles out occasionally (likely due to critter activity). Cachers have helpfully rehidden it as best they can, but that last guy did such a great job it took me 20 minutes to find it! I deserve a smiley for that one

True, it needs a secondary plot-line for the girls, maybe another scene in between scenes 3 and 4 while the guys are looking for all the caches... Probably something that would tie in with what Leonard was saying at the beginning that reminded Raj of Geocaching.Maybe Penny could take the other girls geocaching, and they could spend the day working on a long T5 multi-cache, getting only 1 smiley. And when everyone gets back together for dinner, they're the ones smiling and ready to do it all again. The guys on the other hand... Or the last scene is of the girls locked in a jail cell while a bunch of cops paw through an ammo can in the background

OMG - That is priceless, TopShelfRob! They don't even need to write that episode now because I saw it all! You captured the characters perfectly

Now watch him pull a Forest Gump and quit running.

One more - how about a dollar store crossword/variety puzzle book? Finders could solve a puzzle if they like or just write their names in the crossword squares.

Back on topic, the ribbon wouldn't take ink very well - at least, anyone using a sharpie or gel ink pen would find their signatures bleeding into the fabric.

The do make terrible cache containers but the make awesome swag! Stuff with two disposable gloves and a kitchen-sized garbage bag and put a label on it with the CITO logo

And when caches are under-rated because the locals are all used to the terrain, then the visitors are at risk because what consitutes a T2 at home in the suburbs is completely different than a T2 in the backwoods mountains. I think the rating sytem provided by GS, a good cache description, and appropriate use of attributes are all part of providing a clear picture of a potential caching experience. Even though my 10-year-old avid hiker could take this cache like a T2, I'd rate it a T3 based on some common sense and the recommendations of the rating system.

Helicopter pad?

I would get one of these for my kids for Christmas (the older ones might roll their eyes a bit but they'd still build it)!

Those are awesome Kunarion! Now that you have the system set up, is it still a huge headache to make them? I could see a side business here for you

We've never found one, but I saw something online about using a small retractable measuring tape for a logsheet.