schmidtbaby
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I have:
gmapsupp - 990meg
gmapbmap - 42meg
gmaptz - 52 k
When you connect the 62s to the computer, what maps (*.img) files do you see on the unit or in the sd card? I have installed my maps through mapsource which will overwrite previous maps, so I used this procedure for renaming maps.
So I would start by looking at the files in the garmin folder on your unit or sd card and seeing if the map actually is there. If the map you installed is there, you might try reinstalling the maps - somebody reported in the thread linked above that this worked for them.
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Thanks,
But where does the section of 24K I downloaded into the SD card show up in the memory - under Choose Map -
I have a map of Cameroon and a North America Base Map - which I presume is what it came loaded with ?
How do I make my 62S use the 24K data ?
That makes sense, Garmin's 24K Topos are NOT locked. At least the set I have are not locked.When I go to Basecamp, the Unlock feature for 24K is greyed out -
I just download a section of the SE Topo 2k to my 62s using "Map Install" , but when I go to Select Map in the menu , it is not there. Only maps shown are Congeree and North America, which I presume were already on there.
When I go to Basecamp, the Unlock feature for 24K is greyed out
Can someone please explain how I'm supposed to associate this map to my device?
Thanks
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Maybe old news, but it is $50 cheaper than I've seen at many other places
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Just saw all Colorados 25% Off at REI. Does this maybe signal the end of the series or just a End of Summer Sale ?
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You're very observant. I have owned about 10 Garmin units and have been most disappointed in the latest two units they have released (Oregon and Colorado). They are hyped as High Sensitivity Receivers, but they seem more prone to drift than earlier units (60scx) that do not have High Sensitivity chipsets.
Actually, the 60CSx has a high-sensitivity chipset (Sirf Star III). It was the first Garmin handheld to have one, and people have been frustrated by Garmin's seeming inability to surpass or (in some cases) even match the performance of that receiver in later handhelds.
I stand corrected on the 60scx. As I understand it, the Sirfstar's are more expensive than the chipsets Garmin is now using?
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I found this fact a little disturbing - The handheld GPS manufacturers don't publish the sensitivity specs for their handhelds. It's the same for Garmin, Lowrance, DeLorme, etc. I've even downloaded the manuals and SDK guides and foraged in the appendices for this bit of information. No luck.
They use subjective terms like "High sensitivity" and give accuracy specs in meters, with and without WAAS. But the "specifications" sections on their websites don't list the most important spec of all - how well it acquires a signal
I'm an engineer and I feel uncomfortable, and even suspicious when there is a glaring oversight like that made
Other GPS products make this information openly known. For example - the $41 Navisys GR-300 SiRF III USB GPS Dongle for a laptop:
# Technical Data:# SiRF III, 20 channel, L1 frequency, C/A code
# Accuracy: <2.5m (Autonomous); <2m (WAAS); (50% 24hr static, -130dBm)
# TTFF (Hot/Warm/Cold): <1 sec / <35 sec / < 42 sec
# Sensitivity: -142dBm (acquisition); -159dBm (tracking)
# Update Frequency: 1Hz
# Protocol: NMEA V3.00, 4800bps, GGA, GSA, GSV, RMC, VTG
# Power: 5V, 50mA
Beautiful. Thank you! That tells me everything I need to know about the receiver. And this wasn't even at the manufacturer's website. This was at Semsons.com - an online vendor. It's in the description of the unit.
http://www.semsons.com/nagrusbgpsdo.html
How can I make an accurate comparison of different models, aside from the "gee whiz" bells and whistles, if I'm not provided with the cold, hard facts about how it performs?
I'm new to geocaching, and maybe I'm missing something obvious. How did everyone else here pick their model? Am I making too much of this?
You're very observant. I have owned about 10 Garmin units and have been most disappointed in the latest two units they have released (Oregon and Colorado). They are hyped as High Sensitivity Receivers, but they seem more prone to drift than earlier units (60scx) that do not have High Sensitivity chipsets.
There is also the speed at which they update which seems to be slower than earlier units , that results in speed and distance (odometer) errors.
Finally, many people blame some of their inaccuracy on the fact that they are "high sensitivity" receivers and hence are prone to errors that "low sensitivity" chipsets are not prone to.
So these units are not all they are hyped to be. They do have more robust Geocaching features that appeals to the average reader on GS.
All that being said and given that I've blasted the Oregon and Colorado many times, I just went out and bought another Oregon 400T
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This looks to be a really slick unit. I really doubt anybody who honestly thinks the Oregon/Colorado are "duds" will be truly happy with ANY product, though.
I'm one of those who thinks the Oregon and Colorado are duds and I was very happy with the following Garmin products that I have owned or still own:
60c
60scx
Etrex - B/W White version with serial port (not USB)
Legend
Nuvi 350
Nuvi 760 (still own)
Forerunner 305
Forerunner 105 (?) - may have name wrong
Forerunner 50 (still own)
Edge 305 (still own)
Rino 120 - 2
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Colorado - Oregon - 60CSx - tested in dense forest. On bicycle, 4 rounds in two locations.
Results:
[Color:
Colorado - yellow
60CSx - red
Oregon - blue
I had with me Legend i 60CS too but both lost fix in first minute of test ride.
Small loop in very dense park vegetation.
Conclusion: all 4 rounds at both locations shows very good tracks from 60CSx , good from Colorado, not so good from Oregon.
Christopher
Wow,
I was going to try another Oregon until I saw this. Why can't Garmin simply add the feature set of the Oregon to the accuracy of the 6scx. What is up with all this???
OK, I know what is up with all this. I'm just venting. I sold my 60scx and returned the Colorado. and Oregon. It's hard for me to not be bothered by the poor accuracy of the Oregon and Colorado when I primarly bike on a public greenway with mile markers everywhere - and then see that the 60scx is spot on while the Colorado and Oregon are reporting that I dropped them somewhere about 0.2 miles ago
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Accuracy is great on the 60CSx, I cannot be specific because it depends on where you are and coverage but it gets me directly to the cache without a problem.
You might want to look at a 76CSx if you want something that floats. Both units have the same insides.
I bought the Oregon and Colorado 400 T and returned them both. They are great for Geocaching, but for accuracy of the 60scx beats both of them.
I wish I hadn't sold my 60scx.
Garmin needs a unit with the accuracy of the 60scx and the features of the Oregon series.
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The things you are reporting are normal for any GPS as explained above. There is nothing wrong with the unit.
May I respectively differ with this statement. This behavior with the Colorado is the same reaon I returned mine!!! I left the 400 T by accident overnight and it showed tracks all over the place - without ever even moved.
I never saw this with my 60scx!!!
I don't feel this is normal behaviour for a GPS.
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Those comments closely reflect my experiences with a recently aquired Nuvi; difficult to see, love the touchscreen, and yep the screen smuges.Well, there's no question that the screen readability on the Oregon is awful compared to the 60CSx (unless you work in Garmin marketing, in which case your Oregon will get absolutely stunning results in all conditions).On the Oregon, I keep the backlight on FULL and have it automatically turn off after 15 seconds; yesterday I had the 60CSx on full too, but probably didn't need it that way.
Even with the above said, I do like the Oregon and (if I keep it), will have to learn to live with the sometimes difficult to read screen (where "sometimes" will vary depending on outdoor conditions).
I like the touchscreen quite a bit compared to the buttons on the 60CSx: it is very fast and easy to get around. In an earlier post, I commented on how I was able to use the Oregon with gloves on (including heavy ski gloves -- had to use the edge of the glove in that case). Also, I am able to use it one-handed (left-hand or right-hand) by using my thumb to navigate.
I don't like the finger smudges that show up, since it can make the screen more difficult to read depending upon your viewing angle. But I carry small packets of lens wipes to clean the screen; I also found some "finger cots" (finger condoms?) that I tried, but they leave behind a smudge as well.
Clearly Delorme is a up and coming player in this market. Unlike brand M which is fading fast.If the DeLorme PN-40 was coming out now (instead of October??), then I would be taking a serious look at that unit too.Thanks for the reply.
I returned my Oregon today to the same place I returned the Colorado. As soon as Garmon comes out with a new unit with equal (or I hope, better) accuracy than the 60scx - I'll buy it and may actually keep it.
The WAAS issue was the last straw. I am deeply disapointed in Garmin.
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You guys are crazy... The 60Csx odometer sucks just as badly. Such is the life of high sensitivity GPSrs. If you are on a bike, use a cycle computer. No need for satellites.
Red90,
I hate to admit it, but You have a good point with the cycle computer. My Cat-eye computer is simple and always works fine. Maybe I'm expecting too much with these purported do-it-all GPSs. (Even though I do think at times at times you're a little fervent with the defense of the CO
I do appreciate your advice on these forums. Aside from the Odometer issue, I like the the Oregon so far. Maybe i should just start enjoying it as a Geocacher device and quit being so picky.
Thanks for the advice.
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After reading your last first impressions, I've decided that my Oregon may be going back to the store for a refund. I too have seen the same issue with the odometer. One thing I can not tolerate is an inaccurate Odometer. I realize that an odometer is not critical to most of the Geocachers out there, but I value it highly. I guess I just got used to my 60scx. maybe I shouldn't even be venting on this forum because what i really need is a an accurate GPS for my biking escapades and an accurate odometer is paramount.
My experiences with the Colorado (same issue) and now the Oregon have really soured my respect for Garmin.
I guess I just expected every new unit from them to be perfect. This has been three disappointments in a row for me. (I salivated over the Forerunner 405 , went to buy one and realized the thing wouldn't even fit on my wrist.) Then the issues with the Colorado. I feel that the most accurate handheld GPS out there is one that I just sold - the 60scx.
Sorry to be so negative tonight, but these are my honest opinions.
Could someone please try to cheer me up and suggest that the odometer issue might be able to be fixed with a firmware upgrade? Please!!!
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I believe you , but I've scoured the Garmin website and can't find any reference. Can you be more specific?
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Does the Oregon support the Cadence and HRMs?
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I got a little lost on this thread. Is it the Colorado or Oregon that has the 600 ft. accuracy issue ?
I returned the Colorado because of several issues. Garmin please don't disappoint me with the Oregon.
Sorry - meant to post in the "Garmin Oregon Wiki Thread" Can someone move it into there?
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First the slow firmware upgrades to the CO, and now this? I am so glad I stuck with the 60csx. The Colorado is far from perfect but Garmin is already moving on! It seems like Garmin is tossing reliability under the bus just to stay on the cutting edge.
Also, won't the touch screen decrease battery life even more? Will the screen smudge? Will the screen work with a protector? Just seems like a whole new set of complications, to me.
I went back to the 60scx after trying out the Colorado. I can't wait to see a photo of these Oregon's.
I was so dissapointed in the 400t, even though I loved it's looks and feature set. Let's hope for good things from the Oregon's.
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I was a "Beta" tester for the Colorado" - might as well be for the Oregon's.
I'll try any new Garmin.
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Anyone heard anything about the "Garmin Oregon 200, 300, and 400". Maybe they will come with the latest in Sirfstar chipsets? If so , I'm first in line.
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I am looking for a new gps unit and am wondering if garmin has the bugs worked out of the 400t. Will be using for geocaching mainly
Thanks
For some the 400T is the best thing out there - extremely accurate and no problems, whatsoever: for others it is still problematic, even with the latest firmware upgrades.
I suggest buying where you will not incur a restocking charge and decide for yourself.
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Scmidtbaby,
Thanks for the reply.
Actually, I bought a Colorado 300 from the Pineville REI store yesterday. Joined as an REI member also.
I just posted my "one-day" experience on another thread, and will copy that at the end of this post.
As I state in post, I was pretty pleased today. How long is the return policy at REI in case some issue raises its ugly head to make me change my mind?
Were your problems the same with all three units or different issues?
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1) You supposedly can return anything you bought at REI at any time - that's why I buy from them. The downside is that they usually do not sell at a deep discount. Also, as you may know they are putting in a store at Northlake Mall - much closer to you and I.
2) I have returned the 400Ts partly because what I perceived was inaacuracy while Geocaching , but have found the 60scx to be abput as inaccurate with as the 400T. These caches are under tree cover and neither the 400T or 60scx is cpable of getting to within 25 ft. without saying they are now 40 ft. in the opposite direction. Both cahes are on the Charlotte Greenway system in North Charlotte.
My real problem, with the Colordao series was the Odometer, when it was reporting that I had traveled less mileage than I had according to several other sources that pretty much agreed. These other sources were the 60scx, a Garmin Edge 305, a Cateye Bike Computer, and actual Mileage markers.
I really want a 400T, but just don't feel that the bugs have been worked out.
On another note, If you should wish to go compare my 60scx and your 300, we could go a Geocache together. Let me know as we appear to live close to each other. Maybe then we ould do a more accurate review of the two units .
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Unfortunately what you are probably referring to are the Colorado units with the hardware changes to fix all of the problems we have been encountering since the release. Maybe with the newest Sirf chip (I can dream). They will probably add a few features that we have been telling them we wanted and call it a new release. I am sorry to sound so down on Garmin but I am really disappointed in the fact that Garmin could not have a substantial firmware update by now that fixes the issues. If there are hardware issues then just tell us so we can move on as informed consumers. Some of you will ask why I am still complaining since I have replaced my Colorado with a 60csx. My wife still has the Colorado and we are holding out for the magic bullet firmware update that makes it all better. What used to be her Colorado being more accurate than mine (consistantly 60' off from one another) is now my 60csx being more accurate that her Colorado. So we are off to Geowoodstock with her Colorado (updateless) and my 60csx along with my old 60cs as a back up for hers. Regardless we are looking forward to a great weekend.
I've owned about 8 Garmin units and this is the first time I've traded a newly released unit for a unit that I sold - the 400T for the 60scx. I too think it is the chipset and that it can't be fixed by a firmware upgrade.
I sold the 60scx for US$180 and had to buy a new one for US$299. (REI has them on sale for $299).
Let me know how your Geowoodstock goes. (WTF is Geowoodstock?
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Ok folks I've looked through the posts and I was sure the subject has come up but couldn't find it, so I'm backpacking/hiking and geocaching, which unit would you get if you were buying it now the colorado or 60csx, I'm looking for different oppinions, I work at REI so I have above avarage knowledge but all of you may know more since your in this forum, I've used the 60cs alot for geocaching (the stores not mine) I own a vista cs but I'm not sure if the colorado is worth getting yet?, it has so many problems when caching but they may address them like the ones on early 60 series, I'm not in a big hurry to get a new unit so waiting will be ok with me, all opinions welcome thank you.
Do like I did - buy both the 60scx and the 400T and take them both out. The kicker for me was the tripmeter on both . The 400 T said I had traveled 0.12 less than the 60scx, an Edge 305, a Cateye , and actual road makers. So the 400T went back.
When the bugs have been worked out of the 400T, I will be first in line. Other than the issues, I loved its features.
Now that I think of it, I wonder if many Geocachers even see the dynamics of real in motion travel statisitics as would be provided by the tripometer - as most of us Geocachers walk ? whereas I ride a bike on trail to get near the cache first.
Comparison table is located here: http://garmincolorado.wikispaces.com/Colorado+vs+60csx
To the point of odometer accuracy -- I've compared my odometer on my 400t to my 60cs over many (~30) hikes and as long as the 60cs doesn't lose lock they are usually within 1-2% of each other, the 400t is almost always a little longer. Instantaneous speed and time moving/stopped tend to vary widely between the two units. The 400t's instantaneous speed always seems to read low although average speed for both units is almost identical. The 400t tends to more accurately record the stopped time better than the 60cs.
GO$Rs
Trouble is I want it all - accurate location, speed, distance, etc. I feel that all in all the 60scx is more accurate than the 400/300 series - but that is my personal opinion and it appears to be the opinion of quite a few other people on these forums.
It seems that a more scientific comparsion could be done with the Colorados and other units out there - more scientific than verbage from these forums. But with that said, I suspect that there is variance between individual 400s/300's and even 60scx's. I also suspect that part of the problem with the Colorados is where your'e at on earth and the particular satellite constellation you're using.
So I'm waiting on someone to convince me that the 400T is as accurate or moreso than the 60scx. When that happens. I'll buy one again. I love the feature set of the 400T and can't wait until it's perfected.
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I believe gmapsupp is the 24 k maps, but it is (actually labeled congeree and cameron ?????)
I do see topo contours on my map. and it appears to be from the 24k, but why is called congeree and cameron?
thx