DAS&SAS

I'm suprised this keeps coming up... The friend that introduced me to caching has all but quit because his tried of the same boring ammo can under a few oddly placed sticks, or in the base of a hollowed out tree. Regular size caches can be as boring as micros. I don't understand what all the complaining is about - I love to cache, no matter what the container. I love being outside instead of watching TV, and I love spending more time with my wife and son doing something that is relatively free. If we find a really fun hide, or a great spot because of caching, then whoo hoo! That's extra. I know a couple of reasons more micros are popping up - cost and location. Some locations won't allow for a larger container, and it's a lot cheaper to hide a micro than it is a larger sized container. I say, if you don't like what's out there, then hide caches you would want to find. Goto one of the local caching events and get to know what other cachers in your area like, let them know what you like. Maybe they will hide a few in your honor ... Just my two cents...

OK - I recently (today) went to find a cache that had been moved by a previous cacher. Apparently they found the cache dragged out of it's hiding spot and left in the open, possibly by an animal. That cacher thought the right thing to do was to rehide the cache 400ft away and list the coords in their log. This was back on April 19th. A couple of cachers listed DNFs because they didn't see the previous logger’s coords. A couple of cachers found it based on the new coords. Well, today June 3th (a month and a half later) I went to find the cache with both sets of coords. The cache owner hasn't responded to the chaos, so I moved the cache back to the correct coords listed on the site and put that in my log. Did I do the right thing?

That's funny... You don't think "W" would go for it?

Although this thread is somewhat derailed because of the poor name I gave it, I really would like to here some more of your ideas that no matter how good they are just won't work....

OK, a co-worker of mine (non-cacher) was asking me a few questions about geocaching and the rules to hide one. He's suggestion for a cache hide was brillant, except it won't work... Here it is: Fix a cache to the back of a bus and post the coordinates for the bus stop where the bus makes a one hour stop at everyday. Then in the listed mark the cache as available only during that hour. OK - there are a number of reasons why that won't work, but it's great thinking outside of the box. I was wondering what other ideas you guys have heard that would be amazing... if only there weren't so many reasons why it won't work. Here's another idea he had (he really should become a cacher): There's a large clock downtown that people can get to the bottom of. Place a cache on the back of the minute hand, then list it as available only between 25 to 35 minutes after every hour. Again, many reasons why this might be bad (although some what better than the one above). Any ideas you've had that you just couldn't pull off?

I found my 100th find this week. But a couple of weeks ago, my wife and a friend had an intervention. I was cache crazy . They kept saying "You're Addicted!" and I was like "Yeah, so?"

I don't care who you are, that's funny!

OK - nice trick... thanks

Reboot? Edit: I guess I should have finished looking thru the forum before I posted....

If you click the identifiy option on the map, the icons still don't show, but the caches will show by number...

The reason I became a premium member was because I thought CarleenP did the pocket searches... --Marky I don't care who you are, that's funny right thur....

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the contradiction in Jeremy Irish's statement? Italics added. Just wondering if I'm the only one?

Yes - but we don't tell non-PMs about it. Now that your one of us, remember that they aren't...

LMAO... I'm still laughing.... still.... yep, still laughing.... whew... trying to catch my breath.... I know what you mean Cache & Keri. THX for the laugh

And we all know how bad fish can be in a cache...

looks like the OP has been called out... I could care less about trading swag - I enjoy the hunt. Having said that, it doesn't take much thought to hide a micro. I enjoy a clever hide regardless of the container size. A micro in a hole in a tree in a forest full of trees with holes in them is not clever, it's fustrating... especially when the clue is - it's in a hole.

Again, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm sorry if that offends you.

I certainly wasn't trying to make anyone hurl - however you don't need psychic powers to understand that someone who can gain access to a computer, an internet connection, and a GPSr, could most likely find an extra $3 a month. If anyone is sooo strapped that $3 a month is too much, then they couldn't afford the extra gas to cache much less the cost of the equipment. I've done a lot of communitee work and I have seen many under-privleged families. I know there are people out there who could not afford the $30 a year fee, but those families aren't on this forum and don't caching every weekend. The issue here is priorities, not money. If you disagree, then we will have to agree to disagree on this point. I'm not upset that anyone has other priorities - anyone that doesn't want to pay for the PM features certainly doesn't have too. I'm not suggesting that they should have to. I don't know how this thread turned this direction anyway - I never suggested that I want everyone to have to pay. I wasn't aware of the conflicts over MOCs. I've learned alot from reading everyones thoughts, although I'm still not sure what a geo maggot is. I am glad I posted, I'm glad I got to hear everyones thoughts and I certainly hope I haven't offended anyone in the process. Thanks for the ride!

Not to belabor the point, but with your limited resources, you are able to gain internet access, and a computer to boot - you obviously have a GPSr as well. If you wanted to have PM features, you would find a way, but it's just not one of your priorities. My original post was not how to make people pony up the cache (pun intended) as much as encourage members to learn about the added benefits of being a PM. I became a PM because of a members only cache that was in a park with two non-MOCs and I am very glad that I did. For those of you who know all the ins and outs of being a PM and have decided not to pay for the site - cache on and enjoy yourself. I might place a cache or two that you won't be able to get to, sorry about that.

Not exactly - I don't want MOCs 'everywhere' - just more near and around free caches. I hear a lot of talk in this thread about 'other' ways to contribute to the game, but I'm not talking about making the game better, i'm talking about supporting the site. While hiding a cache is the only way to keep the game going, not having a site to post them to would sux. I want people to support the site so it will continue and maybe even add more features. It's only $30 bucks! I know for some $30 bucks might be a lot of money, but my guess is those people aren't buying $100 GPSrs or spending the $30 for a tank of gas to go geocaching either. I would wager that most of the people using this site can afford the $30 bucks a year - and those who cannot afford the $30 at once, most likely can afford the $3 a month - I mean come on, who are we kidding? Everyone who uses this site has Internet Access, not to mention they most likely have a computer. We are not talking about a group of homeless guys wondering around with a GPSr. I digress. I love this game and although most of the forum users are aware of the PM features, I was not, and niether was a friend of mine who had used the site for over a year! I showed him the pocket queries and he got his PM the next day. I just want to encourage (not force) members to upgrade to PM so we can keep the site going and improving. I don't see popup ads or spam from this site and I love that! I just want to keep it that way.

I assumed you would - and you just might find one of mine in the process (I accutally only have one currently and it is an MOC, but i purchased my ammo boxes and micro containers this week and will be hding many more soon) - I really don't want to see a giant influx for MOC's, only a few well placed ones in parks where there are already caches for everyone. Non-PMs that don't want to become PMs might just pass them by, but I was just thinking that there would be others like me - I would be bugged by the fact the there was a cache 'right here somewhere' that I couldn't get without being a PM - which is why I became a PM to begin with.

I thought getting non-PMs to become PMs was a good reason... You know - money for the site, enjoyment of PM features for more people... etc... Question: Was there a reason you felt we needed clarification on what boycott means? boycott, don't go... right we got it the first time...

Question asked and answered in your own post. To "give back to paying members" is in fact giving to a member that has paid - thus the reason for the keyword here: "paying" Notice that it doesn't say, "give to members that are nearly a Mother Theresa". Allow me to break this down for you - members that are nearly a Mother Theresa but are not paying members don't qualify for this "giving back session." So to be completely clear, the yardstick used here only measures $3 at a time, not rapists vs Nun. I take issue with your definition for for punish. Punish is defined as: impose a penalty on To ADD MOCs to the site does not impose a penalty. If all caches were converted to MOCs, you would have a case here, but that isn't my suggestion. I suggested that we ADD MOCs near free caches to incourage non-PM to join the site. Why would I want to do that, you might ask. Lemme explain: I never knew about pocket queries before I became a member (they are worth the $3!). I never knew about many of the features PMs get until I became one. Non-PMs are missing out and may not know it. If I can encourage non-PMs to become PMs then a few things happen - 1. the site gets more funding to keep these servers going 2. non-PMs gain access to all the neat features they might not even know exist Everybody wins here - except you, b/c you are sitting at home, mad that I made my caches MOCs.

I wouldn't mind a geo-gf but my wife might...

Shouldn't this be under GPS Garage Sale?