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...and the reason this Onion hasn't gone across the border in awhile... Actually, going into Canada isn't bad; it's coming back into the U.S.. Of course, the last time I did that crossing, I was dragging a 24-foot travel trailer - caravan for your translation, Keith! I'm still wondering which agent got to go through the black water tank It was SO much nicer and easier pre-9/11, but those days are long gone!

I've got four I need to go get pictures to go get - I just haven't wanted to drive the 90 minutes one way to get them. Maybe this Friday when I have a day off....

...and there you go - you just stepped outside your parameters. We have a crapton of sculpture categories - allowing LIGHTED sculptures is explicitly violating one of the peer review categories of redundancy. You allow lighted sculptures, even, "artistically" lighted sculptures , and you have absolutely sunk your category to failure. Pay close attention to what elyob and NW_History_Buff are advising you. It is going to take an extremely well-written category description to get this through. Right now, I can only see that this category is going to be extremely subjective as to what makes an "artistic" lighting fixture. Can that be bought in a store or is that something designed specifically for a great building? What about a write-up? What kinds of pictures? Can these be museum displays? Again, you have to be absolutely, positively clear from day one on your category description write-up - this one will be tough.

You know, don't send direct emails to me threatening to report me for violating Terms of Service for my Forum posts. Either report me to wayfrog, or get out of my face. A question was asked - I answered, then someone not in the discussion and I am not going to name sends me a direct email saying I disparaged his character and discouraged his officer. How the eff did I disparage anybody's character when all I said was that the category had been denied twice already, and then I said it had been denied once. I told the person to either report me or to shut his pie hole. Don't threaten me in an email.

I just got back from a trip in June Waymarking a bunch of stuff in Southeast Wisconsin.

I do go back to the fact that this has been denied once by the Waymarking community. Those were the second and third times going through.

May of 2006

This category has been denied twice by peer review. It was also pulled from peer review the third time. My guess is probably no.

Olathe, Kansas is interested... I'm glad to see it was the 10pm and not the 5am - I don't play well with others at 5am on a school day - LOL -3.1 - it'll be bright and easy to track as long as the cloud cover is minimal. Lemme know...

The things you find on road trips and Waymarking!

Sliced Bread Okay - Chillicothe, Missouri - the hometown and originator of sliced bread - yea, it's kinda been waymarked. It's actually a nice little town.

Happy Canada Day, Keith! Now, you need to go to a town small enough where they actually document rolling up the sidewalks in the evening OR have competitive watching paint dry championships. Wait, that means you're in small town Oklahoma! (I've spent way too many evenings at my Grandmother's in the thriving metropolis of Fairland, Oklahoma!) I guess I can't say anything bad about your stop sign, though, I waymarked a street corner near my house. - Back of Stop Sign - LOL

Not even going here...

See - I try to make a point and look where it gets me! Okay, you asked for it...

Here's my thoughts - I just got back from a trip from Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin. During my series of road trips, I explored a lot of cemeteries - actually one of my favorite things to do. If he hadn't already been waymarked, the grave of Nelson Dewey should be eligible. First Governor of Wisconsin and would be regionally known. Governors or top elected officials of a province or state should always be a yes. Members of legislatures I would review. Judges I would review. I skipped Waymarking Father Michael Flamming, although I probably could have made a case for him. He was responsible for the construction of the St. Donatus Parish Church and Way of the Cross which is actually quite famous. I just didn't feel that his fame extended much more than the Tr-State Region of the Dubuque Area. I felt that the building and the Way of the Cross were much more famous than the man that built them. All of the above said, this is one category that you are never going to make people happy. A line in the sand has to be drawn and then the microscope has to be gotten out to see where that grain of sand lands....

I would send an email to wayfrog to report and ask him to lock the thread.

Here in the Midwest, the mixing of Confederate and Union troops in a cemetery isn't that "out of place". I can actually give you an example of of a Confederate veteran being buried next to a veteran of the United States Colored Troops (North) in the Fort Scott National Cemetery in Fort Scott, Kansas. I'm not sure why that that part of the Confederate General is in the description - people, especially from the war-torn south often did move to where more opportunity lay. Former Confederate Generals died all over the globe after the war because of that. This is one of those early categories before peer review. The leader and at least half of the officer corps are inactive. Interesting concept. To continue with Bear and Ragged's query - in the Fort Leavenworth Prison Cemetery on base (yea, it is a hassle to get through the gates now - before 9/11 this was an open base that you just drove onto!) there are 14 German P.O.W.s that were hanged at the end of the war and then buried in this small, out of the way, cemetery on base. Would these be considered "out of place" graves since they German P.O.W.s executed in 1945 after the war buried in a cemetery with men who committed various offences that their bodies were never claimed by next of kin? That statement about graveyards is actually true - technically speaking a graveyard is attached to a church and they usually have very strict requirements as to whom will be buried on their property.

I'm not sure that the Canadians allow residents of the Sunflower State anywhere near the border... My feeling is that the prevailing sentiment is making it really tough to create new categories. I, myself, would support this issue either way, although I like the expansion idea. It might be enough to get me to invade the Great White North, again!

Congrats on the new category!

Here's a question - the Nelson-Atkins Museum here in Kansas City actually has a 15th century French cloister within its collection. Since the cloister has OBVIOUSLY been moved, would it been accepted in the category? I thought I remembered it when this conversation came up...

Again, no hard feelings either way - those pews, in my experience, haven't been that common. I just thought it might be enough of a rarity for inclusion...

Fair answer - a pew dedicated to an an average Joe should go into Citizens' Memorials. I wasn't sure if one dedicated to an important enough figure would necessitate inclusion.

I currently don't have any pictures of these famous pews - I know they exist from previous travels. With the Covid lockdown, I'm not going to be able to get a picture of the Grant pew in Galena on my current trip.

This is interesting so far - I am in agreement with elyob with his concern, also, would historical wooden pews count? I know that in Williamsburg, in Boston, and in Galena, Illinois, churches have pews marked where famous people either owned or sat?