bikinibottomfeeders
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...sometimes exhibits behaviors that may be considered immature or
irresponsible.
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... and it hurts us to know that others have passed judgment on him without really knowing him.
I agree with these two things. Some have called me immature and others have judged me before. Most of which didn't have the first clue about me or what it is that I do. I've even been called unethical. I think judgement is a very powerful tool that people don't always think about before doing especially since the only way that many of us know each other is through the thoughts that we type on these forums.
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RR - you've been fine.
If such an agreement were struck between the original traders, then no, the third person should not be obligated to comply.
So there's one opinion - how do others feel? (I realize that many are offline right now)
I agree with this because there is no guarantee that the potential third owner even knows that it is a "no sell" coin.
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I think that there is another point here that also needs elaborating on for us unethical people out here.
I feel like everyone is saying that if someone recieved a "strings attached" coin it would be better for them to trade the coin rather than selling it. Is this correct?
question 2: What if the original coin owner and I had a falling out(not about coins) and are no longer talking in order for me to trade it back to them. Would it then be okay for me to trade it to someone else?
Disclaimer
**These are both hypothetical points and are no way related to the current dibacle(sp) that I encountered. Ethics and morality are just a couple of hobbies of mine I guess you could say.
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So.... wait, how is this different than a Moun10bike coin? He doesn't allows THOSE to be sold on E-bay, so I can't possibly see why the same idea can't be done by someone else.
I don't agree with that either. But that is my personal opinion.
If I traded coins(lets say non trackable U.S. dollar coins) for an original geocoin with a tracking number on it from Groundspeak and turned around and sold it on ebay. Should they be allowed to cancel the
tracking number or even retain the original rights to the tracking number?
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JNJ has stopped "trading" his coins for this very reason. He sent me one awhile back with the stipulation that I never sell it (his name is listed as owner, I merely have it in my collection).
One should always follow the original trade agreement. If you agreed never to sell, SHAME on you! I'm certain if you wanted to, he'd trade you back fro that coin and you could do as you wish with YOUR coin.
If, on the other hand, the agreement didn't stipulate the "no sales" clause, you are good to go and nothing can be done.
Which agreement did you make?
The agreement that I remember making with JNJ is that I would not trade the coin to AG. I don't remember them ever asking me not to sell the coin. If they can forward me a copy of an email where I agreed to not sell it then I will gladly pull my auction.
But you don't own the coin. So it really isn't yours to sell. You are selling a coin with no tracking, because JnJ has said that he was going to disable the tracking number.
I do own the coin. I traded one of my coins for it.
And exactly what point is being made by those that disable a tracking number when someone purchases their coin? I mean really, you have someone that wants your coin in your collection bad enough to pay for it. They will most likely not get rid of it if they paid for it.
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I traded with JnJ for a coin also and he sent me an unactivated coin which I now have activated and I own, the agreement was that I do not sell the coin. I agreed to that. That was my agreement and I know other people also made an agreement with JnJ to not sell his coins.
Since BBF traded for an activated coin, it would seem that he should not sell what he does not own. Yes he sent his BBF coin in trade but he also made the agreement to trade for an activated coin that he would not own.
I think the bottom line is you should not sell coins that you do not own without explicit permission from the owner of the coin.
I have never made light of the fact that JNJ still retains tracking rights to the coin. I have been very forthcoming with that info on my auction page.
an honest question:
If what you say above is true then did I give him one of my coins in exchange for him loaning me one of his?
Correction: I traded for an activated coin that I did not have right to the tracking number on the coin.
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JNJ has stopped "trading" his coins for this very reason. He sent me one awhile back with the stipulation that I never sell it (his name is listed as owner, I merely have it in my collection).
One should always follow the original trade agreement. If you agreed never to sell, SHAME on you! I'm certain if you wanted to, he'd trade you back fro that coin and you could do as you wish with YOUR coin.
If, on the other hand, the agreement didn't stipulate the "no sales" clause, you are good to go and nothing can be done.
Which agreement did you make?
The agreement that I remember making with JNJ is that I would not trade the coin to AG. I don't remember them ever asking me not to sell the coin. If they can forward me a copy of an email where I agreed to not sell it then I will gladly pull my auction.
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My vote is for Chicago
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I just figured I would pre-emptively post here on the forums about this issue.
You can weigh in your opinion if you want.
Background: In early 2006 I traded Jeep'en Jumpers one of my bikinibottomfeeders gold geocoins for his trackable gold coin. At the time his only concern was that I not trade it to a certain someone we all know has an affinity for the #7.
Situation: I currently have placed his coin up for auction on ebay. I have my reasons for selling the coin but would like it known that I am not only selling that coin but many others in my collection. Today I recieved an email through ebay accusing me of stealing his coin and threatened legal action and disgrace on this website...over a geocoin. While I know that many of you would never sell a coin that was traded to you, I believe that you cannot retain ownership of something you traded to somebody else.
In closing, while some of you may disagree with me I'd like to remind the whole coin collecting community that in the end we are talking about pieces of metal that have no intrinsic value. I believe that if people got as worked up over poverty and other political issues then we could probably come up with better solutions to most of the problems that our nation faces.
Sincerely,
Bikinibottomfeeders
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$250 to Cure Childhood Cancer from Texas Mini sales
$250 to Worldvision from Geodiamond Sales
$400 to Redcross from Nightcacher coins
$16017+250+250+400=$16917
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I have done $406.00 to the Humane Society of York County Animal Shelter this year so far and will be adding more very soon. Not counting my time.
15611+406=$16,017
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1. Participating -- E-mail sent 11/6/07
2. Received Name
3. Mission Complete
4. Santa Arrived
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Thank you very much. My wife and I wanted to have fun with our geocoin.
We really put a lot of time and effort into creating it.
I mean we spent 2 whole weeks looking our tails off for that tail...
I bet that was really difficult work looking at all those bottoms!
you bet it was. I had to go to the eye dr. afterwards cuz I kept seeing two of everything
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its time to find some cache!
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Thanks for the info! I added it to my personal collection site where I have the gold I traded from you and a silver I traded from someone else. One of my favourite coins!
Thank you very much. My wife and I wanted to have fun with our geocoin.
We really put a lot of time and effort into creating it.
I mean we spent 2 whole weeks looking our tails off for that tail...
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If I remember correctly personal icons weren't being allowed at the time. Thanks DD for clarifying the 500 coin thing. I can't remember if they even had the PC prefix at that time.
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Hello All,
I normally would not post something like this but I wanted to clarify some mis-information by someone
about my geocoin.
The person said that there must have been over two hundred of my gold version made which is incorrect.
The numbering on my coins is a little different than most would expect. Here are the quantities of each of my coins.
#1-15 Rhodium(jewelry grade metal)
#16-40 Black Nickel
#41-140 antique Gold
#141-240 antique Silver (offered for sale to the public)
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geocaching hitchhikers > geocoin discussions
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eat greet meet
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Dude that is totally my first GPS in that pic!
it was a Cobra 100 or something like that
but it was blue and it sucked!!!
Actually, leave it blue. Can you make it a little darker blule?
OK - I made the GPS a little darker, and the sky a little lighter for better contrast.
Here's the avatar sized image...
and a bit bigger so you can see it....
P.S. less than 300 views more and this thread hits 50,000 views !
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Not sure if this will be allowed so please forgive me if its not.
I just noticed that one of my bikinibottomfeeder coins actually made it back into a cache
and was wondering if people were interested maybe they could post here when non-trackable coins
end up in caches.
the coin was placed in GC13XQK
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we have a cacher here in indiana that is a local newscaster: tvnewsbiz
He seems really down to earth when I see him at events.
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My record is similar to another poster.
I placed a cache I appropriately named "Stealth Cache"
which was completely gone before the first person to look for it
could get there.
Guess I wasn't so stealth like!
I didn't even bother replacing the cache.
GEOCOIN TRADING, WANTS, OFFERS AND LISTS
in Trackables
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Below is a list of coins that I have available for sale. I don't have a price for any of them so email me which coin you want and how much you're willing to pay. If I think its fair then I'll send you an invoice. ALL items must be paid for through PAYPAL. No exceptions.
ALL coins are trackable and are unactivated!
Logggerhead-original
Nevada
Toronto 2006
Alabama 2005 antique silver
Parrotlet XXLE copper
Junglehair-Garmin
Team Myth 2006
IRC Poffertjes Event 2006 black nickel
Puyallup Apple shaped coin-Black nickel
Illinoin Lincoln Cent 2006
Oklahoma native american FTF 2005
5th anniversary TB coin in original packing
Dorkfish Black nickel(has the single puffer fish in a bowl) W/glitter
Bllind Acorn
Triple Wisdom-black nickel
Fliegenpilz Mushroom-black nickel!