Pack355Mom

As the CO of this cache that makes you cringe, I would like to say that if a person is going to complain about a cache, they should have found it first to verify where the cache was placed. You should have followed the rules and logged it as a DNF. This would have given me the oppertunity to email you to ask where you looked and I could have responded to your question. This cache is NOT in the median of a 4 lane highway as you claim. It is off the paved path beyond the marked "crosswalk". If people were not meant to use this are (and MANY people do), there would be no need for the county to mark a crosswalk here. Even the reviewer stated...."It is quite clear to me from Google maps that the cache is located safely and legally in the middle of the guardrail with easy access from a paved bike trail." I will even go one step farther to say, that it is NOT in the guardrail! If you read the logs posted for this cache, you will see that no one said they felt that their life was in danger. Comments were made, however, that this can be a busy road. I can only say that maybe your gps was not accurate on the day you tried to find this cache. True, some people will try to make their hides more challenging, but not me. I would not hesitate to take my 9 year old to look for this cache!

Or possibly, so close to a road.....similar to the rr track guideline. Re common sense, I shall quote my dearly departed Mamgi (grandmother): "Common sense ain't." The problem isn't the guardrail hides, per se, or even "close to a road", but caches placed in guardrails and/or on signs... or whereever - in locations where it's not legal to stop or park except in emergencies. There's a local cache here that just makes me cringe... it's on or near a sign that's in the middle of a 4-lane highway, at a spot where there's a gap to allow vehicles to cross to the far side. The ONLY way to access it is to be IN THE BLANKETY-BLANK TRAFFIC LANE... whether on foot or in a car, no way in hell should anybody be there. Yet not only did someone put a cache there, but people are parking their cars, getting out, and standing on the cars to reach the cache. It's only a matter of time until a State Trooper or County Mountie sees this, and/or somebody causes an accident. I've really been debating whether to contact the local reviewer about it.

I wish you would have contacted me before all of this. You are complaining about a cache you have not yet found. If you could not find it, you should have posted a DNF or emailed me. As the CO of this cache I would have given you a hint like I did with others who did not find it right away. It is NOT in the median of this road. It is safely off the side. If you look at the picture you posted it is below the "crosswalk" in the picture. The reviewer contacted by email and said [b]"It is quite clear to me from Google maps that the cache is located safely and legally in the middle of the guardrail with easy access from a paved bike trail."[/b] I travel this road on a regular basis and always see people walking, jogging or riding their bike through here, as a matter of fact I had to come back twice in order to hide the cache because so many people walk this path during the day!

You keep saying that there is no legal way to access that cache. The picture you posted proves that you are wrong. This is no limited-access interstate highway. On the bottom of your picture there's what appears to be the right-of-way for an intersecting road that has not yet been built. One could park there and walk across the road. Given that the road has a speed limit of 40 MPH, it is inconceivable that walking across it would be a crime. Moreover, the photo reveals a sidewalk, both paved and marked at the intersection. If you are in danger in the median, you most likely are in danger on the sidewalk too!

Or possibly, so close to a road.....similar to the rr track guideline. Re common sense, I shall quote my dearly departed Mamgi (grandmother): "Common sense ain't." The problem isn't the guardrail hides, per se, or even "close to a road", but caches placed in guardrails and/or on signs... or whereever - in locations where it's not legal to stop or park except in emergencies. There's a local cache here that just makes me cringe... it's on or near a sign that's in the middle of a 4-lane highway, at a spot where there's a gap to allow vehicles to cross to the far side. The ONLY way to access it is to be IN THE BLANKETY-BLANK TRAFFIC LANE... whether on foot or in a car, no way in hell should anybody be there. Yet not only did someone put a cache there, but people are parking their cars, getting out, and standing on the cars to reach the cache. It's only a matter of time until a State Trooper or County Mountie sees this, and/or somebody causes an accident. I've really been debating whether to contact the local reviewer about it.