Chris n Maria

Thanks HH for a more considered reply. I'm sure you are right, as a considerable number of parents don't consider the effect of their kids behaviour and many car drivers drive recklessly without considering how many people they could kill, etc,etc. Like most things it needs education not legislation - personally I am in favour of compulsory ownership classes for dog owners and compulsory parenting classes for parents. After all driving lessons are pretty much compulsory . Chris

The best way to prevent rape is not to allow men near women. The best way to prevent my car windows being smashed is not to let teenagers out of the house.

Sweeping generalisation time then? That comment reminds me of the saying 'the more I meet people, the more I love my dogs'. Now don't get me started on people with those other wild animals -horrible kids - why take them out to run around and scream, and generally annoy other people. Dogs have been domesticated and a companion for man for thousands of years. Sorry Nick that you have had this experience twice. I too am wary of dogs I don't know, even though we have 2 dogs of our own. I carry a dog stop, and have been know to shout at other owners who allow their dogs to behave unacceptably. I know some people carry one of those jiff lemon squeezers or a an umbrella to 'pop' open if they are approached when they don't want to be. Learning about dog language is useful - as said before looking a dog in the eyes / staring is confrontational. You could turn sideways and yawn (a calming signal), but not look at the dog, while asking the owner (if they're about) to remove the dog. When removed then threaten them with the local dog warden. No-one should let their dog get so far away from them that they cannot see what they are doing. Unfortunately the common denominator in dogs behaving badly are the human owners, who can't be bothered to do some basic training, and think their dogs (and probably their children) are entitled to do whatever they like whenever they like. Edited to add some details of calming signals........ THE CALMING SIGNALS 1. Turning of the head This can be swift, turning the head to the side and back, or held to the side. This is a sign the dog is not comfortable. Examples of this are often seen: His head may turn if you stoop over him If another dog approaches him to fast If she finds a camera being pointed in her direction scary. You can use the turning of your head to communicate to a dog that seems scared and starts to growl or bark at you Sometimes its not the head, but the eyes only from side to side and look away to avert a direct stare. Your dog may use it if you stare at him or approach front to front. 2. Turning away Turning the side or back to someone is very calming. When dogs play and that game gets wild some of them will start turning their side or back, just to calm the game down a little. Your dog may use it if another dog acts threateningly, or growls at him. You can use it when a dog shows signs of nervousness or aggressiveness to you. If he jumps at you, turn away and most times he will stop. If your approaching a strange dog and you see the dog getting nervous, turn your back and more often than not the dog will come to you. 3. Licking Noses. A quick movement of the tongue, so quick it is often missed. Your dog may use it, along with other signals when approaching another dog, if you the owner bends over the dog, holds him tight, grabs him or talks to him angrily. It is one signal we as humans can not use, we are not quick enough! 4. Yawning The most intriguing of the signals, at least people seem to enjoy using it. Your dog may yawn when you visit the Vets, when you fight or quarrel in the family, when you hold your dog to tight, when a child comes up to hug him, and many other situations. You can use it when your dog feels uncertain, a little scared, stressed, worried or when you want him to calm down a bit. Turid Rugaas "Calming Signals" - see the Book Review

Found 594 archived 174 that's 29% In our defence: we have met Pharisee a couple of times so maybe his luck has rubbed of

So Earthcaches are being returned as part of "Grounspeaks comitment to education"...hmmm Groundspeak own Waymarking.com - so why arn't earthcaches educational there? Why do they suddenly become educational on the GC.com site? Looks to me to be an admission that the only purpose of Waymarking.com was to get rid of all those pesky locationless and virtuals to a place where noone would disturb them! Chris

Does the "comitment to education" mean that they will soon be allowing educational virtuals?

Checkout the Tube Map to find caches close to transport.

Terrible news - we wish him a speedy recovery too. CnM

PISH

i can't believe it - they have been searching for 2 days now and noone has decrypted the clue! Unless of course they did and it said "This one is so easy it dosn't need a clue"

Isn't that a virtual using the existing waymarks. I see no reason to archive it. Chris

Waymarking? is that still going then ?

Take a look at the [link=http://stats.geocacheuk.com/misc/tube.php]caching tube map[/link], the tube is the easiest way to visit most of central london.

So sorry for your loss "We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made" - M. Facklam 'Rainbow Bridge Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together.... Author unknown...' Take care, Maria

Really sorry to hear this news Our hearts go out ot you at this time.

I think I get where you are coming from ! But... Apart from the calendar of events and the saving on the modification malarky and the stats and the interactive maps and the downloads and the tube map and the rating system and the search by town and the database of all UK caches and see nearby trigpoints and search for T&J bears and the Handicaching Link and the OS Links and the clickable map links and the searching for archived caches and the remembering who you are and the searching by cache type and the keeping Ian,Barry & Brian off the streets and the make Moote look a bit silly and the really quick service and the being easy to use and the taking the load off of gc.coms' servers and the being free and the wiki and the geocaching blog pages and the unmoderated friendly forums and place to upload cache camera photos for free and the vote facility and the WAP What exactly have GCUK ever done for us ? Nothing...that's what.

Is This what you are looking for ?

Sheesh! But... Apart from the calendar of events and the saving on the modification malarky and the stats and the interactive maps and the downloads and the tube map and the rating system and the search by town and the database of all UK caches and see nearby trigpoints and search for T&J bears and the Handicaching Link and the OS Links and the clickable map links and the searching for archived caches and the remembering who you are and the searching by cache type and the keeping Ian,Barry & Brian off the streets and the make Moote look a bit silly and the really quick service and the being easy to use and the taking the load off of gc.coms' servers and the being free and the wiki and the geocaching blog pages and the unmoderated friendly forums and place to upload cache camera photos for free and the vote facility What have GCUK ever done for us ?

Well of course there is the calendar of events, But... Apart from the calendar of events and the saving on the modification malarky and the stats and the interactive maps and the downloads and the tube map and the rating system and the search by town and the database of all UK caches and see nearby trigpoints and search for T&J bears and the Handicaching Link and the OS Links and the clickable map links and the searching for archived caches and the remembering who you are and the searching by cache type and the keeping Ian,Barry & Brian off the streets and the make Moote look a bit silly and the really quick service and the being easy to use and the taking the load off of gc.coms' servers and the being free, honestly who can say that GCUK has ever done anything for us ?

accepted, But... Apart from the stats and the interactive maps and the downloads and the tube map and the rating system and the search by town and the database of all UK caches and see nearby trigpoints and search for T&J bears and the Handicaching Link and the OS Links and the clickable map links and the searching for archived caches and the remembering who you are and the searching by cache type and the keeping Ian,Barry & Brian off the streets and the make Moote look a bit silly and the really quick service and the being easy to use and the taking the load off of gc.coms' servers and the being free, what have the GCUK ever done for us ? Answer me that!

yes, granted But... Apart from the stats and the interactive maps and the downloads and the tube map and the rating system and the search by town and the database of all UK caches and see nearby trigpoints and search for T&J bears and the Handicaching Link and the OS Links and the clickable map links and the searching for archived caches and the remembering who you are and the searching by cache type and the keeping Ian,Barry & Brian off the streets and the really quick service what have the GCUK ever done for us ?

Please what does that mean - I googled it and am none the wiser. Its what people call a database when it has got too big & too slow to give you the answers straight away.

But... Apart from the stats and the interactive maps and the downloads and the tube map and the rating system and the search by town and the database of all UK caches and see nearby trigpoints and search for T&J bears and the Handicaching Link and the OS Links and the clickable map links and the searching for archived caches what have the GCUK ever done for us ?

So let me get this straight... Apart from the stats and the interactive maps and the downloads and the tube map and the rating system and the search by town and the database of all UK caches and see nearby trigpoints and search for T&J bears what have the romans GCUK ever done for us ?

Here are just a few of the superb and unique features of GCUK that we use regularly :- Very useful interactive map TomTom POI download Cache ratings Looks like it is just you... and the tube map