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  1. I have put this on hold for just a little while longer. My husband just put in an order for some ammo cans. He was ordering himself some for re-loading and decided to order enough I could have some for caching. As soon as they come in (should be a week from today) I will get it ready and go talk to the caregiver (or at lest the person that owns the house behind the Cemetery). I think what I'm going to do is place it near the gates and place sandstone over it. Make like a little cubby and put one on top. I was weed eating and found I still have about 10 large pieces of it left by my mother-in-law's flower bed she took out when she moved.

  2. Hi there,

     

    I was just wondering if anyone in Oklahoma knows of a cacher called 'Lucifer Sam'? I've been trying to get in touch with them as they've had hold of one of my Travel Bugs since last year and their GC.com registered email address is bouncing things back at me.

     

    If anyone knows them, then any help contacting them would be very much appreciated!

     

    Many Thanks

     

     

    ac-p

    I now have The Italian Job- Red... Is that the one?

  3. The only real issue I had is that at at least two of the locations, there is absolutly nothing to see, or to let you know that something was there, and I did not want to send people on something they may think was Micro spew.

     

    I was going to place them either way, but was just trying to get a feel of what kind of logs i may expect from these caches.

    I would love to do one like this! Even if there's nothing left, I think it'd still be cool to go to. Like Lep said

    Even if there is no evidence left at the spot where something happened or existed 100 years ago, it is still interesting to read an informative cache page, then go to the spot and imagine what it was like.

    If I get a chance after you place them I would go :)

  4. Are there other geocaching forums (non-geographic specific) elsewhere? It sure would be nice to find one that isn't patrolled by an army of admins with nothing better to do than close threads and otherwise meddle in the online lives of others.

     

    I tried to get help setting up a multi-cache yesterday and an admin decided to shut that down. I've seen things like that happen time and time again here. It's really getting tiresome. We need another place to hang out.

     

    - !

     

    ooo! Groundspeak has an army of admins now??? :rolleyes: do they get to wear uniforms and go on maneuvers one weekend a month? does the initiation include the phrase, "thank-you sir, may i have another?"

     

    i wonder if there's a recruiting poster with a pic of signal the frog pointing that says, "we want YOU for the Groundspeak lackey army".

     

    sounds cool! :anitongue:

     

    how do i get to be an admin? :ph34r:

    :ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

  5. I have a local Cemetery I want to place a cache in, because there's a famous Gang buried there. Well, I checked it out over the weekend... I hadn't been there in YEARS. When you get there you have to cross a cattle guard and pull through a pasture to get to it. I have been assured it's a public Cemetery. When you pull up there's signs that say to Please close all gates and not to plant Trees or shrubs. I think that I can get permission to do the cache there, but I need something I can use to cover it. I thought about Plaster of Paris, but was told it'll melt, and that Quik-Crete will work, so I'll probably do this. My question is, Would other cachers look for it, when I get proper permission, or would coming upon the cattle guard scare some/most off? I would put in the description of it and such. I just more or less want to see if it's a waste of time to make a cover to make the container look like a rock and getting permission before I do it...

     

    As you can see with the posts in this thread, people feel differently about caching a graveyard. I'm on the fence with the idea but I really don't appreciate ending up in a graveyard without fair warning as I was on a cache hunt on Kauai recently. Put it right out there for folks to understand where you are asking them to hunt.

     

    You'll need to provide additional information about the actual hide if you are going to get help you are requesting with the material for it. For what it is worth, a fake gravestone would be bad form in my book because you'll no doubt have people doing things that could be considered disrespectful before finding it.

     

     

    No, not at all what I am doing. I'm going to make it look like a grayish rock, or sand stone way away from where the headstones are.

     

    edited to add: If you look over my caches you'll see that I state in each of the graveyard ones I have already placed that they are in one.

  6. Topo maps often reveal if a road is listed as a county road (and therefore, publicly funded and therefore, public). Even with a cattle guard, a public road is a public road. Have fun.

    Hmmm the map that the site (Find a grave) has the road listed as a county one... I hadn't thought to check that.

  7. I am still stumped on the cover for the container. I think what I'm going to do is make a holder, place a steel bowl of some kind (or a metal bowl of some kind) in the middle of it and then pour Quick-Crete over it. Let it dry, break off the holder and paint it. Then place it over the container go visit the people who live behind the Cemetery and talk with them about placing it just inside the gates of it.

     

    If nothing else they can tell me who else I need to talk to, but being they live right behind the Cemetery I bet they're the ones that own the pasture.

  8. I like caching in cemetaries. before caching I never really thought to go in cemetaries. I kind of figured one trip was enough.(ok bad joke) Caching has shown me some nice cemetaries and makes me think of planning my last geocache. maybe a headstone cache...hmmmm

    There was a few that mentioned that in the last subject I started, before I planed my cemetery caches. I now have 4 and working on another 6. Most all of them aren't used often, or are, but the cache is near an older one.

     

    I was asked about the title of one (GCWR8X) of mine. I named it what I did, because of how old it is and the fact if you will look around, there's alot of unmarked ones, and a group of 6-8 baby graves that only have the date and the words "Born and Died" on them.

  9. I enjoy caches that bring me to old, historical cemetaries, or a VERY notable marker in a current cemetary. If well done, they bring me to a place I would not have known about, and we then usually spend 30 minutes or more looking at the different stones, commenting on the ages, or years the people lived (or died). Usually the cache is something small, without much of a container to trade items with. The point of the cache is the cemetary itself.

     

    We treat a visit to a cemetary as a special visit, and are very respectful of the history there. We try not to trod over the casket area (although that is sometimes difficult, depending on the cemetary), since that is the way I was brought up. Growing up, we went to visit family graves on Memorial Day, and always looked for a few memorable markers. I remember one that said "Daddy's little buddy", for a boy that died when he was about 6 years old. Considering how LONG ago that was (I am now 49, and remember doing that when I was a child), it must have made a big impression on me! Shouldn't we pass that respect onto our own children?

    I have always enjoyed cemeteries. I can spend hours in them, just looking at the graves. I usually always take flowers with me. If I don't know anyone in there then I place a flower (or two/three) on Baby graves. I take my girls with me each time I go (well almost every time).

  10. I found a cemetery cache like that pretty recently. Signs on the gate and instructions on the cache page explained to me that I needed to open and close the gate to keep livestock out of the cemetery. Driving down the dirt road through the pasture, and playing with the gate, made that cemetery cache experience stand out to me as something new and different. I would link you to the cache, but we did not much care for the actual placement of the container, just a few feet away from a family's plot. It sounds like you are on the right track towards a respectful cache placement -- giving the coordinates to the interesting grave as a virtual point of interest is much better, IMHO. The container can be hidden along the border of the cemetery, where there is usually a fence, a row of trees or shrubs, piles of debris, etc. to serve as a hiding place. Also, reading on the cache page that it is hidden with permission always makes me feel better about a cache going in. From what you've described, I would very much like to find your cache.

    When my Brother (mudden) and I first arrived at the Cemetery entrance we didn't remember it at all having a cattle guard. Then we realized that the cemetery was on down a bit and we'd be driving through a pasture to get to it. I had already talked to many and knew it was a public cemetery. How ever mudden wasn't really sure about going on in. He finally drove on up. The way he reacted told me I may need to check and see if anyone else would be bothered by the fact that you'd be driving through a pasture. I didn't see any cows/bulls where we were, but there were signs that it is used at times (if you know what I mean lol).

  11. You can also use info on the gang's grave to provide an offset to the cache. If you don't get permission to place the cache in the cemetery, then that way you can hide it nearby and still highlight the interesting site.

    I'll keep that in mind. I plan on writing about the gang on the cache page.

  12. Sounds like a cache I'd love to find.

    I think alot will like it. In the log book, I'm gonna put the co-ords to the graves of the gang. I'm gonna place it close to the gates. I just wasn't real sure if the cattle guard would scare some off. I think as long as I get permission and tell them about it all would be fine.

     

    Before I go out to get permission, I’m gonna have it all ready to show the person I talk to what it’ll look like.

  13. I have a local Cemetery I want to place a cache in, because there's a famous Gang buried there. Well, I checked it out over the weekend... I hadn't been there in YEARS. When you get there you have to cross a cattle guard and pull through a pasture to get to it. I have been assured it's a public Cemetery. When you pull up there's signs that say to Please close all gates and not to plant Trees or shrubs. I think that I can get permission to do the cache there, but I need something I can use to cover it. I thought about Plaster of Paris, but was told it'll melt, and that Quik-Crete will work, so I'll probably do this. My question is, Would other cachers look for it, when I get proper permission, or would coming upon the cattle guard scare some/most off? I would put in the description of it and such. I just more or less want to see if it's a waste of time to make a cover to make the container look like a rock and getting permission before I do it...

  14. Is it just me or does it bother other people when our TBs are picked up and kept for three months or for ever by some other geocacher?

     

    Is it appropreate to email the holder of our TBs after three months? As for me- i think it is rude for people to pick up TBs and hold them for too long

    I think its fine to send an e-mail asking about it. I'll admit that there's been one or two I've held onto for longer then I'd liked to of. I make a habit of e-mailing the owner myself after a certain amount of time to let them know what's going on and when I plan to move it along. I always get a reply stating they usually don't get e-mails like that and thanking me for letting them know.

  15. Well, let's all remember what cemeteries are for. The majority of cemeteries in the country today are a result of a movement in the Victorian era know as the "rural" cemetery. Rather than the cramped and often unhealthy church graveyards of the past, large open cemeteries were laid out on the outskirts of towns across the nation, starting with Mount Auburn in Massachusetts in the 1830's. The idea was that since America was "lacking" in history but had plenty of natural beauty that they could combine monuments with nature to make the perfect place to celebrate the dead and ponder things for "moral improvement." So they imitated the monument styles of classical Greece, Rome, and Egypt, laid out winding roads and ponds, and planted trees for the maximum aesthetic beauty. The public would come to picnic, stroll, ride bikes, and enjoy the natural, historic, and sculptural scenery. Refreshments were sold and cemeteries became the major tourist attractions of the day, with foreign visitors raving about them and the movement soon spread to Europe. The idea that cemeteries are a place to be avoided unless you're there to bury someone is an increadibly modern idea. Having said this, i feel it's right to enjoy these places as they were intended and i see no disrespect as long as the cache is tasteful. Cemeteries are a place for the living just as much as for the dead, and visiting a cemetery, for a cache or not, keeps the memory of those buried there fresh, and hopefully offer some "moral improvement"

     

    Sorry if that was a bit long-winded, but i wrote my undergrad thesis on the Rural Cemetery movement and how the layout of Gettysburg relates to it. There are a few great books and articles on the subject that i could point out for those interested...or if you really want i could send a copy of my thesis if you're into torturing yourself :ph34r: If you're into cemetery caches i reccomend at least picking up a copy of Stories in Stone as a guide to the symbolism seen in various cemetery art. Just my 2 cents....

    I was hoping someone with the same point of view would reply. The first one I did in a cemetery I'll admit threw me off, but I did enjoy it after the actual thought came to mind that I could "kill two birds with one stone" I could find a cache and look at old graves/headstones at the same time.

  16. This may have been talked about, but I'd like to see how many people like Cemetery caches...

    Is a Micro good, or do you like to find small ones?

     

    Obviously I dont know how to reply to a message! Or Do I.....lets see! Personally I have always been an old Cemetery buff. Ill pull over at a whim just to wander about and look at headstones. In my area, Ive been trying to find the oldest cemeteries that are still open to the public ( not a small feat! ) to place caches at in a tastefull way, of course. Just to bring people to the location. An I always enjoy looking for these caches....I can spend hours wandering about. I know from some logs, that some folks dont like these placements. As for me, I want my headstone to be a cache. Of course Ill have some explaining to do beforehand if I have the opportunity.....but how cool that would be. Have Geo-cachers come and sign a log as well as pay respects.

    That would be very cool!

    I spent an hour and half in one today looking around and 45 mins in the first one. I placed caches in both of them. I just wanted to see what everyone thought of it before placing the others I have planned :ph34r: .

    The one I spent so long in today my Father-In-Law is buried in and the kids and I hadn't ever seen it, just hadn't gone before. We went and got flowers and placed them for him. We also, each (3 of use), placed one on about 20 baby graves while we was there. I always like to do that. I just wish I’d had some for the first one we had gone to.

  17. This may have been talked about, but I'd like to see how many people like Cemetery caches...

    Is a Micro good, or do you like to find small ones?

     

    My wife and kids both enjoy cemetary caches. They go more for the history and viewing of different headstones and such more than the caches themselves. Actually, I usually end up looking for the cache while they are off wandering around the cemetary. So in my opinion micros are fine in cemetaries.

    That's what I like doing. Going for the History and all. I placed two today and thinking about a few more.

  18. There are some caches in my area (most owned by the same user) that have been disabled for a long time. To long. Such as the 24 of April, 3rd of June, and all the way up to the middle of April. By this time shouldn't they have been repaired? I know the GC guidelines state that they should be repaired within several weeks, and it has been several weeks. Does a GC mod take care of this, or does the cache have to be reported? I"m tired of seeing a line through every cache in my area :D .

    I have two (that I adopted) that's been down since mid-April. I just haven't had a chance to make it out to them to replace them. I plan on it every week and something comes up. I would send an e-mail to them and ask about it before doing much of anything. I would rather get an e-mail then a post on the page that it needs to be archived. I'd gotten one on the one by my house, and it really kinda struck me as odd. It'd only been down a month when I got it. I found out that the person was out caching and couldn't find it got home and found out then it was disabled. I won't say anything about my opinion on this, but like has been mentioned they may have other things come up and haven't been able to get to it, or other problems.

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