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Perhaps these threads would go easier if you allowed for the possibility that the beliefs of those that you disagree with are valid. Filled with crap has already happened. Geodumping. Cachers unfortunate to find them weren't to happy about it. But they still got a number I guess.

You know what people: If you don't like one don't go get it. Leave it for others that do like that level of the game. But who is anyone to judge anyone else? FTF , lame micros at shopping malls...someone took the effort to place it. If you don't like it, put it on your ignore list and move on. let others enjoy their level of fun in this game. I might add most of those LAME caches you refer to are NOT premium members only caches. If we didn't have free loaders (pony up the 30 bucks a year) in this game it would be a lot different and you wouldn't be hunting down "the lame cache". That now could maybe considered a rant.

I don't visit the forums often but this subject caught my eye. As one that started hiding an ammo box in the woods, then a film canister in suburbia then, evil hides in both woods and suburbia, this topic was of huge interest to me. The lame cache is in the eye of the beholder and the "place" they are in caching. Every Cacher goes through caching phases: finding, hiding, easy, hard, numbers, puzzles, multi's, difficulty stars, terrain stars, numbers in a day. Different cachers apply themselves to different levels of the game. What may be lame to one is a benefit or fun to another. Those that have found ten bus stop magnetic key holder micros think they are lame..the family first caching that finds their first bus stop micro is jumping up and down. It's all relative. My Lame breakdown: Not maintained Crappy coords (take more than one reading PLEASE) Crappy puzzle (there are actually many different solutions but the owner ignores it) The possiblity of being yelled at by neighbors and/or the police are called Trash and garbage around that could hurt someone or I don't want to explain to my kids (needles, broken glass, beer cans, porn, discarded red panties) Note: all of which may show up later without the cache owner knowing. Misrepresented terrain rating (if you rate it a one star terrain that means no one has to fall out and crawl from their wheelchair) Otherwise as a wise cacher once told me: to each his own. Everyone plays their own game and as long as played by the rules others shouldn't judge. That's not a rant, just what I have experienced myself as I used to rant. I don't now.

The option to not pay is freely provided by Groundspeak. I was a non-paying member for almost 2 years before I started paying. You don't know this person's status financial or otherwise. Regardless of your reasons for paying, they don't necessarily have to match up to another's reasons not to pay. Your right...My post was insensitive. Just because I do one thing doesn't mean everyone has to and if your just trying out the sport that makes sense.

But you’re not a Member because?? This is a subject that bugs me: ground speak spends a lot of time and effort giving cachers so much great fun, challenge and exercise through the website of geocaching.com. Why not pony up the 30 bucks a year? It is a heck of a lot cheaper than one diner out one night or a movie once for two. If you use the service why not pay for it?

Invite me too as well Mahawking - the cake looks yummy!! COngrats to my favorite micro finder! You have a geonose that rivals most! Mahawking says thanks for the thoughts and yes we will do cake again soon!!!

Thanks for your post Team Misguided. It is hard to know where every puzzle in Seattle is and I have no idea how I ended up getting close to two in one day...... mayhem!!! One was moved, one was allowed to stay. The updates will help the reviewers a lot I'm sure and reduce embarassment for cache placers in the future.

I wanted to say a big congrats to Rockitbiker for his 400th find in the snow up in snoqualmie today!! I was supposed to be there but weather stopped me..with kids and all in tow.... .it sure didn't stop him!! Way to go man!!!