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I didn't attend but i did just now take a look at the cache and gba page. May have just missed it but i wasn't able to find anything pertaining to paying for lunch or having it provided. Would think that info would be easy to spot..
On a side note, it sure looked like a bunch of event stacking went on.
Event stacking?
Generally, events need to be able to stand on their own, not needing another to basically prop it up. Yes, here, there were some other events such as a post-Mega dinner for all who wanted to attend. But, all events were discussed with Groundspeak first and approval received prior to submitting.
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GC5Z4XF was a ripoff.
Paid for a lunch and was told that my lunch 'was for volunteers only'
The geocachers of the bay area is only a portal to suck any money from individuals.
I have some colorful language to tell the person or organization about this event!
Will never travel to any of the San Francisco (bay area events again)
I want my paid fees back and will challenge this to my bank.
How dare you do not serve me lunch that I had paid for... was told <volunteers only>
I want my money back as my lunch that I have paid for was DENIED.
It was a first year event so there could have been hiccups...actually, I volunteered on the committee (not nearly as much as others) and working the registration table and I know that unfortunately we, like other first year events, had some minor hiccups. For instance, we couldn't find some people's printed paper name tags....but everyone was cool with it and we made handmade ones on this spot. Meal tickets should have been in the merchandise bag you were given at check-in. If there was no meal ticket, then either you never ordered one or it was mistakenly left out. If you ordered one and it was mistakenly left out, I am confident the committee will issue you a full refund of your meal - heck, I will even buy you a sandwich, soda and a bag of chips out of my own pocket. It looks like you really love your food, but I would advise against coming on a public forum and accusing good-hearted folks who volunteered and put a lot of time and effort into an event that they are "a portal to suck any money from individuals". No sandwich is so important to allow you to publically insult people and insult their efforts. (BTW: you may want to double-check your order, your order confirmation and what was charged to your bank. You may have never paid for a lunch to begin with.)
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm guessing, based on the bolded part of your reply, that there are several tiles all with the same (non-leaf) fossil. I was worried that each tile had a different fossil and I had to identify all of them.
As a complete off-topic aside, my biggest regret with just passing through Denver is that I won't be able to visit Casa Bonita - my favourite restaurant anywhere. I tried to fit in a full day in Denver, but just can't do it this time.
Yeas, you are correct. There are a certain number of odd-shaped tiles (I almost typed in the number
) and they all contain the same fossils. That is why I said if you are rushed, count the tiles but just snap a photo of one. The answers for that one apply to all. -
Make sure to stop at the mexican restaurant in terminal B. It is really good. It is at the end near the higher numbered gates.
Que Bueno? I think it is by gate 50 or so. I am almost embarrassed to admit it, but travel through DIA so often and hit that spot almost all the time so when I walk in and they know me by name and make me "the usual" drink
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Do you have a method for us less fortunate to score the cache?
Unfortunately not. While I love helping cachers find my caches (I give hints, spoilers and outright coordinates to any of my 350 or so puzzle caches), I can't see a way of helping on this one if one hasn't been at GZ. I certainly don't require 100% answers on it and have helped guide people who looked at the wrong items. But they have all been at GZ. I really wish I could do something to help but don't see how.
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I've just booked a flight from New Orleans to Las Vegas via a 2-hour layover in Denver.
I've spotted an earthcache in terminal B and, since this will be my only chance at a Colorado cache I'm rather hoping I can get at it.
Does anyone know which terminal SouthWest airlines uses for their internal flights and, if it isn't terminal B, how easy is it to get to terminal B from wherever I will be? (And back again in time to catch my flight out).
Thanks
Tony
I tried to reply once before, but I can't see my post so I am trying again (sorry if it is a duplicate).
That is my EC. I hope you will enjoy it. The train will drop you off dead center (kind of) of terminal B so you will be pretty close. I say even 45 minutes - one hour should be fine.
A few things to help:
1. Do not be mislead by the bronze inlays or the colored large manmade images.
2. My hint tells you there are 3 of the tiles in front of the candy store - look there first, that will tell you what you are seeking.
3. One question asks you the color of the tiles....but I actually tell you the answer in the description, so that should help you identify the tiles too.
4. They are not palm leaves (the most common incorrect answer).
5. Some of the workers in candy store, the newsstand and the handbag store know about the cache. If you are stumped and find the right one, they may point it out to you.
6. If you are rushed - just count the tiles and snap a photo. You can answer some question based upon personal observation and the rest via on-line research (there are no info signs on-site. Unless you know this fossil, you will need to do some research).
7. The CO (me) is a real push-over when accepting answers.
Enjoy and safe travels (I pass through there in the morning on my way to Anchorage).
I'll be at GeoWoodstock but taking land-based transportation. Can one access the terminal without a boarding pass?
Unfortunately, no. At least I know of now way other than being an employee at the airport (two employees have logged it).
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I've just booked a flight from New Orleans to Las Vegas via a 2-hour layover in Denver.
I've spotted an earthcache in terminal B and, since this will be my only chance at a Colorado cache I'm rather hoping I can get at it.
Does anyone know which terminal SouthWest airlines uses for their internal flights and, if it isn't terminal B, how easy is it to get to terminal B from wherever I will be? (And back again in time to catch my flight out).
Thanks
Tony
I tried to reply once before, but I can't see my post so I am trying again (sorry if it is a duplicate).
That is my EC. I hope you will enjoy it. The train will drop you off dead center (kind of) of terminal B so you will be pretty close. I say even 45 minutes - one hour should be fine.
A few things to help:
1. Do not be mislead by the bronze inlays or the colored large manmade images.
2. My hint tells you there are 3 of the tiles in front of the candy store - look there first, that will tell you what you are seeking.
3. One question asks you the color of the tiles....but I actually tell you the answer in the description, so that should help you identify the tiles too.
4. They are not palm leaves (the most common incorrect answer).
5. Some of the workers in candy store, the newsstand and the handbag store know about the cache. If you are stumped and find the right one, they may point it out to you.
6. If you are rushed - just count the tiles and snap a photo. You can answer some question based upon personal observation and the rest via on-line research (there are no info signs on-site. Unless you know this fossil, you will need to do some research).
7. The CO (me) is a real push-over when accepting answers.
Enjoy and safe travels (I pass through there in the morning on my way to Anchorage).
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1.What do you like most about challenge caches?
I think they add a new twist to the game. Unlike some posts here, I do not think it makes the game "all about numbers" as I have done many challenge caches that do not require a large number of finds. Plus, the creative ones are really fun. I think some of the historical challenges such as Jasmer, Fizzy, year-long-streaks, etc. have contributed a lot to the game and keeping challenges will continue to help the game evolve and grow. If it is decided to break them out from Mystery caches - I would not make any new icon retroactive (as some people used the "?" icon in the past for other challenges and streaks). I own 20+ challenges also and enjoy the logs from finders - most indicate that they enjoyed the challenge presented.
2.What do you not like about challenge caches?
Nothing really. They are simply another cache that requires something different. Wherigos require the completion of a module. Mysteries require solving a puzzle. Multi's require completing various steps. Webcams require a photo. Earthcaches requires answers. Challenges merely require the completion of a challenge. Not better - not worse than any other cache type (although I do love Earthcaches).
3.What would you like to see changed about challenge caches?
I don't believe that a challenge should be rejected by Groundspeak if it requires something in the log. I am tired of "TFTC" logs and think a challenge to the effect that the cacher must have at least one log exceeding 250 characters (actual text, not a string of letters) rewards a cacher who uses the logs creatively and really communicates. Also, I think cache owners should be rewarded as well - allow challenges based upon cache hides. Sure, some cachers won't complete it as they don't want to hide a cache....but some cachers don't do mystery caches because they don't like puzzles.
4.If you could describe your favorite challenge cache type, what would it be?
I am two away from Jasmer - so that is great. So I guess the kind that requires a grid to be completed or a streak to be completed. But any creative challenge is fun.
5.What types of challenge caches do you avoid?
Ones I can't complete. But I don't have to find every cache and challenges are no exception.
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First - welcome! Second, by looking at your profile I see you are new - no finds and no hides. So, I will assume you mean logging caches you have found. As mentioned by others, that depends upon the app. I use the iPhone app, It works like this for me. I do a search for caches (home page: "Find Nearby Geocaches"). A list appears (closer in proximity is at the top). I select the cache I want to find and click it. I read the description. Then I click the "Navigate to Geocache" function to help me get there. Once there and I have found it (hopefully), I go back to the cache listing screen and under the "Navigate to Geocache" button is a "Found It" button. You can just click that (to the right is a pull down menu that allows you to choose other types of logs such as "Did Not Find It", "Needs Maintenance", etc.). Click the "Found It!" and you will be brought to a new screen. At the top is a "Write Message" option. I highly recommend this as CO's love to hear from cachers who found their cache (I know I do anyway). There are other options such as attaching a photo (all optional). Then click "Send Now" and off it goes. Barring some network connectivity issue, you just logged your cache. Good luck and have fun! (Oh...and responding to the question as written, but not as I believe was intended, once you find a few caches - say 25 or 50, you get a good idea about hides, then you can consider hiding your own. But, it is kind of considered bad form to log a Found It! on a cache you own...because you didn't really find it, you hid it.)
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There is a pretty active group of cachers in Bahrain. If you look on Facebook you will find then there. Geocaching Bahrain or the like. Good luck.
I just saw this. Thanks!!!!
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Hi. In my past job I had to go to Bahrain and it appeared it would be a regular visit (I have since left that job and no longer make the trip). I have one single cache hide there that a local cacher helped maintain for me. Well, he moved back to the States but another local cacher agreed to maintain his hides and mine. Well he moved to Singapore. So, is there a local cacher in Bahrain willing to help me maintain my one hide? It is temporarily disabled due to a string on DNF's - but it may still be there. If I can't get a local cacher to help, I will just archive it. Thanks for any help. http://coord.info/GC2Q3VD
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Not sure if you have made the trip yet, but if not and you like older caches - this one was hidden in the very first month geocaching started: http://coord.info/GC39
If you are there in November (like I was/am) - it is deer hunting season so dress in super bright orange. It is not too difficult to get - 10 minute walk if that.
Edit: Oops - sorry, just saw that you were planning it for Halloween. Hope you had a good trip.
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Yes, absolutely possible. I did one in downtown London, UK where I had to study fossils that were in the walls of a building. http://coord.info/GC2GN6N
I have one that is based upon Fossils (also one of the very few geocaches inside an airport): http://coord.info/GC57BR8 The Earthcache staff was very helpful in helping me get this one published.
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I found upper Mesa Falls earthcache in Idaho. http://coord.info/GC29WHP
It is only about an hour from our house and we do the loop often but it was my first time doing the EC - there is still a traditional nearby that I have to grab. I have my own earthcache at the lower Mesa Falls.
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I had no problem getting Denver airport's permission for the earthcache. But I agree, airports will be tough in the US. If anyone ever flies into the Europort (Basel, Switzerland - although technically in France) there is a great cache a short walk out of the terminal. GC1R9QK
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Oh - when in Copenhagen Airport, I think I grabbed three caches. Not sure if they are all still there (actually I am pretty sure one is archived). But it is a breeze to go through security there, so might be worth your while if you have time.
When I went through Copenhagen airport I had about a 5 hour layover so instead of finding the caches at the airport I took a train downtown, found 3 or 4 caches and got back in plenty of time for my connecting flight.
I went through Copenhagen to and from Aarhus. So I got my first Denmark caches in Aarhus. I had about 2 hours on my way back, so that is when I got a couple more.
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Oh - when in Copenhagen Airport, I think I grabbed three caches. Not sure if they are all still there (actually I am pretty sure one is archived). But it is a breeze to go through security there, so might be worth your while if you have time.
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If I recall you also found the traditional at Changi airport in Singapore. I got that one too.
Yes... well sort of. It was missing and I replaced it with the cache owner's prior permission. A great location, unfortunately the cache often goes missing.
Fortunately it was there when I looked for it though the log was a bit damp. Although it's "in" the airport, it's open to the sky and it was raining (and at night) when I looked for it.
I did a great one in Zurich airport - it was an ammo can in the ceiling of a parking structure. But I believe it has since been archived.
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Here's a slightly different twist. I was traveling last week and did this earthcache inside the Denver International Airport. It's well done and seems to meet the requirements of an earthcache. There may be opportunities for more of these, if the airport has the proper content.
As the cache owner, I hope all who go through DIA have an opportunity to do this one. It was (honestly) not easy to get published, but my local EarthCache reviewer worked with me and, after an appeal to EarthCache HQ with some specific issues addressed, it was good to go. I do not see this as a very common airport cache, but when I saw the fossils there it was the perfect opportunity I thought. So far feedback has been good and I even met some cachers there while I was en route through DIA (which I have been more and more lately).
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Hello:
I will be landing at Orlando airport tomorrow afternoon. I have quite a few Florida finds (love your state - especially the Keys) but no Georgia finds. I have a decent window of opportunity once I land in Orlando to get to the Florida/Georgia border and get back to Orlando that night (business conference the next morning). Any suggestions for the fastest Orlando airport to Georgia (with a cache just inches on the other side of the border) and return route? Thanks! Alan (one of the "a"'s in caccbag….you can e-mail me directly at alangeraldi@yahoo.com - thanks again!!!!)
cAccbag
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In regards to this particular lab cache, you can not log your own... if you attempt to log it from the account it is created from it stays in a test loop and does not log a find. Also, I have 2 caches hid in my area, and after creating my Lab cache, I still have only 2 caches on my profile, so there is no reward given to the "hider" at this time. I do like your idea though of making it a FTF prize in another cache, you only need to make sure that the cache is found before the end of the month so the FTF has time to seek your lab cache.
Thanks - I was unaware of that restriction on logging - makes sense though (although I thought it was shown that you created a Lab….guess I was mistaken). So my wife ends up with flowers and a gift instead of a code….and the FTF gets the url. But the url may be something of an adventure, meaning so long as a few cachers find the cache and url within, say, an hour of each other, then there may still be a race for the final. Something like "I <3 Geocaching's Amazing Race"
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The other issue that got pointed out, is even if it is done as a 'lovers cache', many of those lovers/couples/families actually share one account, so that doesn't work for them either.
heh, I was about to post an 'aha' moment, and say that one solution for those cases could be that the person creates a 2nd account just to make the lab cache for their partner... but then, only premium members can create one
One could, though, maybe ask another premium friend if they'd be willing to let them create the cache for their partner under their account. I don't believe there's anything rewarded for creating, so there's no "loss" (ymmv) there.
I actually thought of this as well. Our account is my family (although I certainly do the majority of the caching). If I wanted to create a cache that was special for my wife. It could be something Valentine Day's related (not sure if that will be seen as a good thing or not
). She opens a VD card, special message, the website takes her to the box that held her engagement ring, she opens it, finds the code. She uses the code. I "get" the hide, she "gets' the find - but our account would register both (no that would not be her only Valentines Day gift) I know its bad form to log your own caches (I have never done so) but here - with the limit of a single person finding it, and she would not know GZ or code or anything else in advance……and since I Heart Geocache Lab Cache is without rules (mostly) and are open to new creativity, it would appear to fall within the definition. But on the other hand, I was going to place the url in a cache container and publish that cache as a traditional or multi with the fact that there is a Lab url for the FTF in it so that the FTF has a chance to get the Lab find also.
Don't know. Still toying around with it.
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Hope the new logging method goes production.
I CERTAINLY hope it DOES NOT.
The story of the adventure told by the finder is a big part of my reason for placing a cache. If all I get is a notice that someone entered the correct code for one of the caches I placed, I will quickly find another game to play. I feel the majority of non-power trail cache owners would agree.
Can't agree more. I have 524 published caches (no power trail(s)) and if eliminating a logging requirement comes into play, I won't hit 530. One of my greatest joys is reading the logs - one of my greatest disappointments is reading a "TFTC" or "Found" or even a blank log. (Tell me something! You hated it, you loved it, it was like others you found, whatever! I put the effort into creating this hide for you - how about sparing more than 3 seconds to type TFTC?!…sorry, I digressed). If this game evolves into one where logs are not a part of the game, then the Groundspeak staff better switch from developing the I<3 Geocaching cache experiment to actually hiding real caches because, as K13 said, Groundspeak and this hobby would lose the vast majority of those that help keep this game moving forward - those that create and hide the caches (my belief - not trying to speak on behalf of all other hiders).
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New to this Geocaching Lab thing, so let me give an example and see if this is a workable "Lab"
I get something like this, program it to respond to the "door bell" -- which is actually me barking like a dog into a microphone, then I program it to play a "Meow!" when it detects something that sounds enough like my dog bark.
I place it in a bush and tell people the name of the lab is "Bark Like A Dog"
So geocacher(s) arrive around GZ and proceed to try their bark (which would be good fun to record
) and try to trigger the Wigwag device to "meow". So that gives away the location of the final.Does that sound about right?
Sounds fun - too bad it will only be a single cacher that can do it. Giving the CO the option to have it unlimited or limited (and she/he can select the number of people that can use the code) is much better in my opinion. Also, letting the finders log their find (well...requiring it) will also add much more to this concept in my opinion. Yes, the new type of cache does open up more creativity in the hide, but limiting it to one finder and having no log detracts from the community aspect of geocaching.
I have actually done this "lab" concept before. There is a company for whom I have occasionally worked that sells team building exercises to companies (executive retreats, department team building events, etc.) They do canoeing, a rope course, etc. But one of their big sells is based upon geocaching. The client is split into teams to find a magnitude of caches. Sometimes all or a majority are virtual, other times about 50/50 with physical caches. But the one common thread is that the teams get to GZ and they have to answer a question or collect a clue. They have a smart phone (or a few) and are logged onto a website with an event specific url. If they enter the right answer - they are told so. They then have to record that in an "answer sheet". Most points wins (there are some other variations....some caches are harder or further away so they are worth more points).
The Lab cache sounds very much like this concept - except it is limited to one cacher. I understand the Valentines Day connection, but (sorry to be repeating myself) the "single find then it self-destructs with no trace" aspect is just so undesirable in my opinion. Sure, I will make one - if possible, even try to claim the icon. But if this is a "Lab" and GS wants to experiment, make it a real experiment with variables. Let the CO's determine how many can use their Labs. That way GS can hear feedback from those single-user/one-on-one, limited groups, and unlimited public Labs. Seems more valuable data to me...and the best data would be logs that record the finders' feelings, impressions and thoughts (just like other caches).
) and they all contain the same fossils. That is why I said if you are rushed, count the tiles but just snap a photo of one. The answers for that one apply to all.
). She opens a VD card, special message, the website takes her to the box that held her engagement ring, she opens it, finds the code. She uses the code. I "get" the hide, she "gets' the find - but our account would register both (no that would not be her only Valentines Day gift) I know its bad form to log your own caches (I have never done so) but here - with the limit of a single person finding it, and she would not know GZ or code or anything else in advance……and since I Heart Geocache Lab Cache is without rules (mostly) and are open to new creativity, it would appear to fall within the definition.
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