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Military surplus or specialty outdoor/camping stores. Up in Topeka there's a place called Einstein's that sells sporting goods for the outdoorsman (fishing/hunting/skiing/camping as opposed to football/baseball/basketball). Probably a fairly similar place somewhere in Wichita.

Tampon (unused thankfully) Last week I pulled a parking pass for a year old event, a ticket for a two year old concert and a parking pass for a university 100 miles away and 5 semesters ago. Had a friend that had to clean a turd out of one in April and it hasn't been found since. Only about 25 miles from a major metro area. Guess people don't want to risk finding it again.

This is why we have premium member caches:

In the days long before caching my dad somehow had gotten his wedding scheduled on the first day of pheasant and quail season. So he, his brothers, and the best man did what they had to do and got up early and went hunting.

Waded waist-deep across a slow-flowing river in April. Then took a DNF. Climbed alone down a steep cliff with lots of loose rocks. Moved and searched for over an hour before struggling to the top for the next half hour. Took a DNF. Went out after midnight on a park trail a couple days after an ice storm. I made it down the trail mostly OK, but getting back up was a lot of work. Plus my GPS batteries died so I was only guessing the direction (it was my early days of caching and I didn't know any better). Turns out the cache had been muggled a few days before (I was paperless and PDA'less, just going on the coords). On caches I've placed: Put a multi out over 5 hours of bushwacking including struggling through a quarter mile of thick 8' tall cattails as well as wooded areas, small ravines, thick brush, beach, hills, thorny brush and trees, rocks, marshy areas and about any other kind of terrain you can think of that's possible in Kansas. I have one cache underwater at a small local lake in Kansas. To get it you have to pretty much submerge yourself up to your neck. Someone found it in late November. brrrr....

I placed a cache near a wetland in late spring/early summer. One of the swag items I was putting in was bug spray. When I kicked the bush that I put the cache in I scared up about 10000 skeeters and used some of the swag.

Looking for any quick roadside stops that might be good on that route not in metro areas worthy of a recommendation.

Active environmentalists = good Enrironmental activists = bad One loves and enjoys the environment The other loves telling others what to do

Sue. Its the American way!

I've only had a couple but my last one made me a little nervous. I was on a long caching trip around western Kansas and was at the end of a long day. It was a couple hours after dark and I was in extreme southwest Kansas (I had just come away from the virtual at the KS-OK-CO tri-border). This part of the country is very isolated. Only 3,300 people in that whole county--2100 of those in one town along the border. So about 10:30 I start heading for the campground the map says is at the Cimmarron Natl Grasslands. I go up the paved road 6 or 7 miles and I start to realize that I may have gone too far so I turn around. I find my way back to the gravel road I was supposed to go on and turn down it. I hadn't seen the glow of any headlights anywhere in sight--and its really flat out there so it shouldn't be a problem to see any--but all of a sudden I see a pair of headlights in my rear view mirror less than 1/8th of a mile back and he's gaining. I don't know what to expect. This dirt road is 15 miles to the next paved one with the campground about 4 miles in or so. Headlights coming out of nowhere are really making me nervous as there isn't even a farm around for miles and the nearest town is a good 15 miles away. I slow down in the hopes that he'll pass but he sticks right behind me. I finally get to the place where the GPS says there is a turnoff (I was hoping it was the camping area) and I pull in to shine my headlights on the sign when the car pulls up next to me. Only then did I see the sherriff's department logo and breathe a sigh of relief. He asked if I was lost and I told him I was looking for the camping area. He told me I found it (thank God) and left. But what were the odds of running into a deputy out there? Some counties in that part of the state only have a handful of deputies covering 400 square miles. I just wish he had flashed his lights right away just to let me know who he was.

Johnny Cache I was totin my pack along the long dusty Winnamucka road When along came a semi with a high canvas covered load If your goin' to Winnamucka, Mack with me you can ride And so I climbed into the cab and then I setteled down inside He asked me if I'd seen a road with so much dust and sand And I said, "Listen! I've traveled every road in this here land!" I've been everywhere, man I've been everywhere, man Crossed the deserts bare, man I've breatherd the mountain air, man Travel - I've had my share, man I've been everywhere I've been to: Reno Chicago Fargo Minnesota Buffalo Toronto Winslow Sarasota Whichta Tulsa Ottowa Oklahoma Tampa Panama Mattua LaPaloma Bangor Baltimore Salvador Amarillo Tocapillo Pocotello Amperdllo I'm a Killer I've been everywhere, man I've been everywhere, man Crossed the deserts bare, man I've breatherd the mountain air, man Travel - I've had my share, man I've been everywhere I've been to: Boston Charleston Dayton Lousiana Washington Houston Kingston Texas (County) Monterey Fairaday Santa Fe Tollaperson Glen Rock Black Rock Little Rock Oskaloussa Tennessee Tinnesay Chickapee Spirit Lake Grand Lake Devil's Lake Crater Lake For Pete's Sake I've been everywhere, man I've been everywhere, man Crossed the deserts bare, man I've breatherd the mountain air, man Travel - I've had my share, man I've been everywhere I've been to: Louisville Nashville Knoxville Omerback Shereville Jacksonville Waterville Costa Rock Richfield Springfield Bakersfield Shreveport Hakensack Cadallic Fond du Lac Davenport Idaho Jellico Argentina Diamondtina Pasadena Catalina See What I Mean I've been everywhere, man I've been everywhere, man Crossed the deserts bare, man I've breatherd the mountain air, man Travel - I've had my share, man I've been everywhere I've been to: Pittsburgh Parkersburg Gravelburg Colorado Ellisburg Rexburg Vicksburg Eldorado Larimore Adimore Habastock Chadanocka Shasta Nebraska Alaska Opalacka Baraboo Waterloo Kalamazoo Kansas City Souix City Cedar City Dodge City What A Pity I've been everywhere, man I've been everywhere, man Crossed the deserts bare, man I've breatherd the mountain air, man Travel - I've had my share, man I've been everywhere

If a cache is failed to be reapplied for then it becomes an "open" area. The original container is still there and becomes geotrash, but is probably still logged on paper when people find it mistakenly for the other cache.

As a history enthusiast I love them as long as they are done respectfully. Most I've done are in a tree, a wooded area at the back of the cemetery, , near a war memorial (not an individual's), or a fenceline. Only one out of the 15 or so that I have done has been ok in that regard. There is one small 19th century cemetery in the middle of the KC metro area. It was an interesting cemetery in that it had one child's grave and about 20 some graves marked simply "unknown." (Also had about 20 some other marked graves but the one was out by itself). The micro was located at the base of the child's headstone. Just being on the headstone I thought it a little inappropriate. There were plenty of other places in that small cemetery for it to have been placed.

Mine is not really embarrasing, but kind of stupid. I walked back into a wooded area and my GPS said the cache was over a small bluff, maybe 8-10' high that was climbable. I sat my can of Dr Pepper down and climbed down. Looked all over for 15-20 minutes before giving up. Climbed back up figuring on a DNF. Walked over to my drink and saw the cache...18" from where I set the drink down. It was about 85 and humid in those woods and I had been out in the boat fishing for 3 or 4 days and really wanted to get home to an AC and I realised I had wasted all sorts of time.

Driving up to a virtual last week in southwest Kansas when I looked down at the road and saw something moving. It was the first tarantula I've ever seen in the wild. Wish I had been fast enough to stop the car and grab the camera to get a shot of him. (even tho spiders give me the willies)

People say western Kansas is boring, but that's largely because they only see I-70, which happens to run through the most boring parts of the state. Some along the Saline river valley north of Russell and Hays, such as the Codell Cache, Afghan Hideout, and German Cave have outstanding views and a little history as well. Many of the wildlife areas in that part of the state usually have some outstanding rugged territory. The extreme northwest corner (last 15-20 miles) has some of the most rugged territory in the state. Wilson Lake has some absolutely oustanding caches that range from park and grabs with nice views to long hikes through rock bluffs and prairies. I just completed the Delorme Challenge this week and on that trip my favorite was at the Big Basin/St Jacobs well between Ashland and Meade was really cool (had a tarantula cross the road in front of me). Great views, very isolated.

I'd be a little leery about having the coords on a TB. The chances of it disappearing are too great. Could also be trapped in someone's hands for weeks or months at a time, making it impossible to find for that period. Combine that with the relatively few people that have SCUBA gear this one would be a rare find.

I have used one, but it is the logbook holder for extra insurance in an underwater cache.

They ought to have a google maps locater for archived caches or something. It would help in seeing if one has been placed in an area before and what the problems may have been. They're on the website so to speak. so it would be nice to be able to view them Just leave them off the mileage lists, don't allow them in PQ's. Just have a link to search for nearest archived caches to a point (home, ZIP, coord, waypoint, etc). Just for reference only.

This is a basic simulator for using a GPS for caching, particularly a garmin legend. http://web.telia.com/~u32007998/geocache/e...scache_eng.html

Mine does the same. Also desn't even bring up a map half the tme.

agreed. Kind of like if a non PM just happened to find a cache when out doing something else.

The FTF for the main cache doesn't need a free jeep. If they have that much money to burn finding them they can afford to buy several

I only care if they are cute female cachers and they put a picture

I recently put out an underwater cache (not scuba, just shallow water) with PVC and it is working ok. I used a small 4" tube with caps on the end that were sealed with large rubber gaskets and plugged with another small cap in the center. Found all at Home Depot for just a few bucks. However, there is one scuba cache near here that uses an ammocan. It was originally a cache chained to a tree above water in the middle of a lake, but wind and waves shifted the tree early last year and the cache sunk. The owner recently recovered it after 18 months and it remained dry as a bone inside, so he decided to leave it as a scuba cache. Ammocans are cheaper and easier than PVC and they have the added advantage of needing less weight to keep them from floating. My PVC cache required attaching a concrete weight plus packing it with swag plus attaching a hook and cord as a failsafe to keep it under. Extra weight would be much easier to add to the ammocan (at the handle) than it would be to the PVC.