d+n.s
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We are going to Europe next month. We plan on doing a lot of hiking and geocaching. I was curious if any of you would reccomend any "MUST FIND" caches in Europe?
Specifically the areas in and around:
London
Keswick
Edinborough
Oslo
Berlin
Potsdam
I'm not looking to spend a lot of my vacation messing around with micros in urban areas.
When I went to seattle there were some amazing caches.
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I feel like I've said this before, and I will definitely say it again.
I don't think the main issue is with theives, but rather people who don't get it. Groundspeak should just be more aggressive in explaining TBs the moment people sign up.
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Why do you older cachers still hide stuff like that? Don't you know that only a few or you hangers on to the old ways of caching would even care about a cache like that. Hide something normal. Caching has changed. Get with the times.
No offense, but this doesn't sound like anything that would come out of a living person's mouth. They may have had said something to that effect, but I'm guessing their tone was different? This reads like a comic book.
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people can define the word "cache" a thousand times. I'm not 100% sure why it matters. Are the caching gods going to send people to cache hell for logging falsecaches? Geocacheing is a completely fabricated game. The terms and ideas associated with it are decided by man. Its not a rule of law. The english language is full of words that don't mean what they break down to in a strict sense.
Perhaps people could continue to avoid caches they don't like. It doesn't lesson your experience when someone else logs a cache you wouldn't log.
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So far, challenges are an awesome replacement for virtuals. The missteps of the early ones doesn't change that. I really enjoy them and I think the only people complaining are people who are too worried about others' find counts.
Its a shame they won't be counted as finds in the future, because I think people should be encouraged to do them and place them... and as reductive as people would like to be.. and as many semantic arguments that they might make... People find them fun and have the ability to bring people to interesting locations that cannot support a cache without muggle trouble or a bomb scare.
I don't know... I just don't see why cachers get so upset about stuff that doesn't effect them. I think we're a group that largely complains about change.
Challenges
Perform an activity- maybe take a picture of you doing it, locationless, no coordinates to locate, no cache to find, nothing to sign, log online. This is geocaching?
Find a location- maybe take a picture of it, no cache to find or log to sign, log online - sounds like virtuals/Waymarking to me. Groundspeak didn't want virtuals.
Find a location and perform an activity - maybe take a picture of it, maybe find something and log online- sounds like an ALR to me. Groundspeak didn't want ALRs, but caches with a suggested activity are allowed as long as the activity is voluntary- not required in order to log the cache.
Find caches relevant to a challenge- find all the caches required to meet the challenge. Find locations, find caches, maybe take a picture, sign logs, log online.
Did I get these right? Any I forgot?
Photo Challenge- Go to coordinates and take a picture
Activity Challenge- Go to coordinates and complete an activity
Worldwide Challenge- locationless community activities created by Groundspeak
similar to:
Earthcache- go to coordinates and learn about nature
No reason to be overly verbose about it.
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I always appreciate ibuprofen in a cache.
"If you were a 6-year-old geocacher, would you want a pack of ibuprofen in exchange for your toy?"
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I thought this was odd. While I aggree that advil should not be in a cache, not everything in the cache should be targeted at 6-year-old geocacher. Lets face it, even the log book is of no interest to a 6-year-old.
I also found it funny how carefull they were to not use any brand names (with the notable exception to Jolly Rancher) ("snap closure geocache container", "ibuprofen").
Jolly Rancher branded promotional TB confirmed
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I always try to leave a few things in my caches for people without children. Not "adult" things, but stuff useful to geocachers. Rain ponchos and stuff...
I found it interesting that I should always be considering 6 year olds
I'm glad they put this out there. Good stuff.
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My thoughts are logical and simplistic.
If it was an agenda it wouldn't have been approved therefore it is not.
I have great faith in the reviewers.
I have faith in the reviewers too, but they are just people. People have differing opinions and outlooks. I kinda' feel like they are all usually valid.
I love reading film reviews, but they don't decide what I personally think of a film. I think having a personal perspective on tings is vital to making good decisions myself.
No less simple or logical IMO.
I'm not sure if this is an agenda or not, but its the first cache description that I've ever read that made me wonder.
In addition, cache pages can be edited after publication.
I've honestly never thought about that... weird. Someone could slide something out there if they were somehow bored and sneaky enough. Interesting. I learned something!
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My thoughts are logical and simplistic.
If it was an agenda it wouldn't have been approved therefore it is not.
I have great faith in the reviewers.
I have faith in the reviewers too, but they are just people. People have differing opinions and outlooks. I kinda' feel like they are all usually valid.
I love reading film reviews, but they don't decide what I personally think of a film. I think having a personal perspective on tings is vital to making good decisions myself.
No less simple or logical IMO.
I'm not sure if this is an agenda or not, but its the first cache description that I've ever read that made me wonder.
If I think thought it WAS an agenda, and the reviewer did not, I wouldn't necessarily think it should be archived or it shouldn't be published.
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Doesn't sound liek a fake poo cache. Sounds like it's on the poo bag dispenser. Magnetic nano...
Agenda... mild one...
I'm sure there are others, but the poo-bag dispensers around me are not magnetic. I learned that the hard way once, after I carefully measured one, went home and cut out a piece of magnetic vinyl the same size as the underside, and painted it a matching green. Went down to attach it, only to find that the boxes in my neck of the woods are either almuminum or stainless steel.
Edit to add: I should have read the hint.
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Oh, that sucks! I'm sorry... fun story though
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I dont see it as an agenda. I see it as a complaint. And a valid one.
Expect the first line bothers me. I live upstairs and have 2 dogs and no yard. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Its a pretty lousy complaint considering the location. There is a HUGE dog park within walking distance of his cache (on the map its that giant green area on the other side of the river. Leash free dog area with a dock for chasing balls into the water) and several others a short distance away. You don't need a yard for your dog to be happy if you live that close to a giant leash free area that's far nicer than anyone's yard.
I was refering to the complaint about people not picking up thier dogs droppings. I agree you dont need a yard to keep most dogs happy.
Oh yeah, that drives me completely insane, but I would not complain about it in a cache description, because I would have assumed that using a cache to criticize people is a an agenda...
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I dont see it as an agenda. I see it as a complaint. And a valid one.
Expect the first line bothers me. I live upstairs and have 2 dogs and no yard. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Its a pretty lousy complaint considering the location. There is a HUGE dog park within walking distance of his cache (on the map its that giant green area on the other side of the river. Leash free dog area with a dock for chasing balls into the water) and several others a short distance away. You don't need a yard for your dog to be happy if you live that close to a giant leash free area that's far nicer than anyone's yard.
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Have you found it yet? I'm thinking the so-called agenda is a bunch of poo.
hidden in a theme-appropriate location.I assume you are right. I haven't found it. Does that affect things at all?
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So, take a peek at this new cache in my area: http://coord.info/GC31RZA
Does this count as an agenda cache?
Now I want to be clear, I don't care. I don't want it archived either way, so please don't jump my case about being a rules lawyer and being overly concerned with other people's caches.
I also don't care about your opinion about what the cache owner is saying. Agree or disagree, it's beside the point.
I'm just sort of curious if it qualifies as an agenda in the eyes of others? I kind of think it is, but it was published, so I wonder if maybe I don't understand the difference.
Just for fun lets discuss it. Its either that or fight about LPCs and log signing
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An interesting location. (I don't might a skirt, if it happens to be the best place to hide the cache, but it better be the parking lot of something cool!)
Maybe room for a travel bug.
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All these walls of text over caches with no permission!
I don't see an issue as long as the pole is not on private property and now you see others think your being ridiculous as well with your exaggerated injury projections. I have accessed permission for my fire hydrant. Actually I know the people, and might I add no one is impressed by your big words and definitions, it's annoying.I've never heard someone repeat words like you have "Judgement", I don't have the time of day to read threw your lengthy post. It's almost like beating a dead horse, hmm that sounds familiar maybe I should acquire permission before using that statement. Probably copy righted and owned by someone. Dodged a bullet there thanks for the life lesson, I'm done on this subject use your smug insults on someone else
The pole itself IS private property, so discussion over. You see the issue, good.
Also, Clan isn't using any "big" words here, and if he were, your efforts to cast the guy as some sort of smug snobby elitist are kinda' laughable knowing as little as I do about him.
(Side note: This hurts my feeling a bit since I AM a clearly a snobby elitist and never get credit for it )
It can really stink reading things you don't want to hear and being confronted with the truth, but acting like someone is being a bully because they are just telling it to you straight won't help you grow.
Now is the moment, where I restrain myself from going into an off topic rant on how stuff like this reflects a larger problem with our modern culture and how it treats information that doesn't jive with it's world view....
*restrains*
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That's OK to have the names cut off.. at least I'd have the first few letters.. easier to locate than a list of GC's.. could I bother you to help me by giving me step by step instructions how to use the GSAK and macro to do this? Thanks.
No need for a macro. If you are using GSAK, when you go download the waypoints to the GPSr, go to GPS, select send waypoints and in the drop down menu go to Waypoint Name and change it from %code to %smart. In the maximum characters block put in the number of letters you want to see. I suggest using 15 - 20.
Yeah my 60csx I use Smart%=14 (the 60CSX has a max 14 characters) for my waypoint name
and I put the the other basic info (size, T/D, type etc.) in the waypoint description.
Play with these:
http://gsak.net/help/v710/hs10300.htm
Using a macro you can get even more info with custom waypoints, but I use an Ipod or my Nuvi for full descriptions.
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Sure its not 30 feet? Try using the offcial Geocaching app.
They all have about the same accuracy. None will land you on top of the cache. Once the unit tells you your within 20 feet of the cache its time to start looking for the cache and not at the unit.
I understand its true they all have the same accuracy, but a nice dedicated GPSr is going to get a stronger signal in adverse situations no?
My friend's iPhone and my Nuvi just got us lost under tree cover. My 60csx and his Oregon have made things smooth as butter.
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My wife and I have a tree hide, She is very short, so I let her do the placement of the actual cache to ensure more people would be able to get it. It maybe the easiest climb ever (the tree is at a slight angle and you can basically run up it if you are brave. so I rated it 3.5 terrain.
Honestly, thats as low as I'd go for a climbing cache and if it wasn't the easiest climb ever I'd call it a 4. Its better for people to show up ready, than to waste their time.
I still gave it a "difficult climbing" attribute to help people PQ it out if they don't wanna climb, and as a "clever" hint.
EDIT: Oh! There is a more appropriate tree climbing attribute!? I'm there! off to edit.
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Ive seen those types listed as both. In general though, night caches are mysteries.
Just go with what the reviewer says. The icon doesn`t change the cache.
As I see guidelines multi has to start at given coordinates. When mistery is places there is nothing at given coordinates.
Usually in multi you get final coordinates on the field. In mistyer you have to get coordinates in webpage.
For those who say it's mistery please say why?
Does it really say that? Because that's not true at all...
Anyway, I would say its an unknown because the coordinates do not take you to another set of coordinates but rather a trail of lights to follow to some coordinates.
Unknown is a catch all for pretty much any gray area cache.
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I think its unfortunate that so many people with great points about why this is actually an idea with possibly unforeseen negative side decided to dole out their wisdom with inelegance.
That said, you might look past the tsk-tsking and OP. because the do raise a valid oint.
Geocaching is not something that suits the average person, and many people wh discover geocaching through a stranger end up with weird ideas about what it is and why they need to make it stop.
P.S. I often call them Muggz in logs because its funnier. Who cares....
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I don't know... Most geocachers I meet aren't that friendly.
The one time I went to an event, my wife and I felt pretty out of place and people were pretty curt with their greetings.
Where the heck do you live? Around here we go out of our way to welcome new geocachers. If a new face shows up at an event there is practically a line of people to greet him. Maybe it's a local cultural thing?
I don't wanna say where it was, people can figure it out if they care that much, but it would seem rude.
It be fair, it was a flash mob, so I suppose time was short.
I introduced myself and the wife to about 4 or 5 people saying it was our first event and we usually just got a "hey." out of people.
2 or 3 cachers were really nice to us and we had nice little chats with them, but for most it was like I was asking them out on a date or something when I'd ask what their "caching name" was
I know our community here is pretty good (I'm acive on our local group's forum and facebook) so I was pretty shocked when people were disinterested in saying howdy. The only reason we could come up with was our obvious age difference from the other people there.
Same thing happened when I visited HQ. The older cachers kind of grouped together and didn't seem to interested in engaging when I'd try to strike up a friendly chat. We had really nice conversations with the lackeys and a geocaching "vlogger" who was there recording his completion of the "trifecta", but everybody else was pretty stand offish and gave one word answers.
The few times I've met cachers in real life whiile caching have been pretty hit and miss. During Texas Parks and Wildlife's Texas Gecaching Challenge I met a few really awesome cachers (One of which perhaps ironically hosted the event we attended! Was very nice on both occasions btw!)and a few who couldn't care less.
The most notable occasion when my friend somehow managed to deduce from paying attention to cars in the parking lots when we were coming and going from state parks, signatures in the logs and from the person's gender that, "This girl up here is ____. I guarantee it!"
As she approached he asked, "Let me guess... you are ___ am I right?"
"Yeah."
"Awesome! We've been right behind you all day! my name is ___, this is ___ and this is ___"
"Cool." *walks away*
Very weird stuff...
I deal with people for a living and I'm generally considered charismatic by people who know me. I don't LIKE meeting strangers, but I'm good at it. With cacherts though, it seems like a 50/50 shot that they will just blow me off. I've found non-cachers to be friendlier in general than cachers.
That said, geeks in general tend to be less friendly than non geeks imo, and geocaching is a little geeky (I can use the "g word" I'm a former dungeon master)
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I have been working on some signature items. My boss eats altoids lilke crazy and I can get free tins off him. I plan on putting the sig items in the tins and leaving them in cool caches and was JUST wondering if I could primer those babies in case someone decided they wanted to take it and make it a cache... but I don't think I'll encourage the practice.
That said, I've seen a few hidden nicely and the size, shape and the fact that they are metal can make for a nice hide. It would be cool if there was a decent container the same size and shape.
But there isnt.
Every time this topic comes up, I'm wondering... what's the point in putting time, money and effort into trying to make a container that's not good to begin with better, when it's still not good when you're done with it?
People don't put time and effort for altiod tins. Just for $1.99 you have a box of mints and a cheap cache container.
For < $1 they could have a darn good container some free matches though...
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Sorry you've had those negative experiences with Geocachers. I hope you'll recognize that most of us would be THRILLED to get to know you and to learn about your apparently gigantic contribution to this great game.
I don't know... Most geocachers I meet aren't that friendly.
The one time I went to an event, my wife and I felt pretty out of place and people were pretty curt with their greetings.
I have met some awesome, outgoing and really friendly geocachers, but I think they might be vocal minority?
That said, I'm okay with people not wanting to stop and chat with me. Life moves by, people have things they are doing and most small talk is honestly sort of boring. Different people and have different personalities, and being standoffish or even disinterested in meeting strangers is just a another one IMO. Not sure that I feel comfortable making a value judgement and saying they should do something they don't like.
I'd like to meet an interesting person like the OP while geocaching, but I can understand not being into for whatever reason.
Doesn't sound cool on a message board and people are gonna tear it apart, but those are the breaks.
I agree with the over-hyped paranoia about muggles probably playing into it.
I also kinda' feel like younger people tend to be friendlier to me than older ones. I wonder if this is because I'm a younger (26) cacher and the older cacher don't have time for us young folks.
Must-find Caches in Europe?
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Thanls for the responses!
The jack the ripper one sounds rad. Observatory looks cool too! I basically am interested in either
A. unique caches and/or placements
B. caches that take me to a neat location
C. outdoorsy ones that highlight a nice view or something are obviously welcome. I wouldn't mind finding a cool cache in a castle for example...
On a more practicle note, is there anything I should know about taking my GPSr abroad? I'm assuming that (I have an old garmin 60CSx) I just need to make sure I have maps and I'm good...