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One other thing, this particular thread is a discussion on the LbNA talk list.

I think the e-mail them and leave it be is the best you can do. Sometimes letterboxes are not stamped for years at a time. Other times, they are stamped almost weekly depending on the number of letterboxers who find that particular box. Letterboxing, like was already said, is based on clues; and the clues can be incredibly hard, or very simple, so even a child could find them. Letterboxing.org is a great place for information about the hobby/sport/addiction, but I don't think they have the kind of regulations, etc. that gc.com does since boxing is far older than caching. Also, there are some boxes listed that specifically say, "do not list this on any database," or "be very discreet, so park rangers, etc. do not find it." I think you did the right thing in e-mailing them. But, I don't think prosecution needed.

Style Style: For men: Baggy pants, and hair that covers the ears For women: Tight pants with pockets, and a belly shirt How this works with a cache, I'm not sure, but I'm sure the right paint job could make these things happen.

I'm a lowly non-member, and I didn't know that I could even see members only caches listed on this site. If it were possible to see them listed with everything but the maps and coordinates...then it might be an incentive to some...but if we can't see them, it is like they do not exist. Hmmm...maybe the listings do show members only caches?...but if they do...I haven't noticed.

A family I know takes picnic lunches to eat at cemetaries. It was a tradition for them, and now their daughter planted a letterbox at the cemetary they always ate Sunday Afternoon Picnics at! There is a micro-cache there too, but I don't think they knew about that when the box was planted.

It sounds like something that would link well with the GeoCacher University Website. Good plan. Yes, more info on what to be aware of would be nice. We've found some uh...Interesting places while just out for a walk in the woods let alone Caching! One was a giant plastic tent complete with a woodstove, sleeping bags, cooking area, etc.! We were glad no one was there as we crept past.

On Mother's Day we met our first fellow cachers while out caching! T-Bone, and Mad Dog. We got to the cache about a minute ahead of them. T-Bone came up and asked if we were hunting for the same thing, and it turned out we were. We had a nice conversation about GPSrs and caching. We re-hid the cache for them to find after we were done.

Yeah, I'd probably trade for some rubber/plastic animals...especially frogs and lizards, or snakes. I've even thought of making some of my own out of oven bake clay! I think post-it notes are superb cache items too!...but I've never found any. Kids do llllove rubber and plastic animals...at least most of them do. And, bouncy balls!!! some kids in my classes at schools have an amazing love for bouncy balls!!! I always look for items to put in my prize box for classes I teach. If I have a lot of one thing, I'll take some and trade 'em in caches. Currently I have an over abundance of foam airplanes! So, I've been leaving 2 or three in each cache. The letterboxes are COOL to find. I like them better than geocaches I think, but there are far fewer of them around. I like all the stamp artwork people put in 'em Their log books are really cool!

Thanks for the Markwell, Cardinal Red!

Yes, there is. After you've typed in the zip code, and it brings up a list of caches for the area Look at the Difficulty/Terrain column. Underneath the numbers i.e. (1/1), or (1/2), etc. there are little icons. Each icon has a maroon, brownish box in it. If the little box is big, it's a big cache. If the box is tiny it's a micro most likely without prizes. If someone else who is more adept at foruming posts a picture of the little icon it will be easier to identify...but that's how I figure it out...look at the icon in the (D/T) column.

Nothing musical...unless it's the sound of us talking as we go. And once we arrive, more talk and, then walking...and if it's a long hike...listening too; to see if we can hear any animals

I agree, I wouldn't let my car use it to drive by, or I'd drive through all the houses on mainstreet!!! Yeah, the basemap in my Legend is off by about a hundred feet on the main street going through town...but other than that, the major interstates, are pretty ok. So far the coordinates are far more accurate than anything on the basemap...but maybe that's why it's called a "base" map? Anyway, the maps are pretty good...but I wouldn't bet my life on 'em.

Several Dozen since I worked at a local middle school today! Since the kids finished their work, they could sit around and talk, write notes, draw, read, etc. Lots and lots and lots and lots of smiles!!!

I've never met a fellow cacher who actually had their GPSr with them when we met!...at least not that I know of. One I met at church because he was wearing a t-shirt that said, "The voices in my head tell me to go geocaching." Later I met his wife, and another couple at the same church who also cache! On the trail...I may have seen them returning from a cache once. The log said, who had been there, and the family description was the same as those on the trail we saw...and a few had been digging around under some rocks as we walked past...hmmm...caching or just digging around under rocks???...hard to say! But, I think it was caching since 2 of the 4 greeted us and talked with us as if to make a distraction for the other 2 digging around under some rocks nearby. Caching?...possibly. Also, once while we were looking for a cache, a fellow and his dog walked past with a look on the guys face as if to say, "I know where the cache is and I'm not telling "...we didn't get to talk with him to see if that's why he was really there. But, I've never actually talked with a cacher who was out caching at the same time we were!

Cool! Thanks for the LINK! ...videos even! ...mostly ppl in the videos, but there were some pix of the Ivory Bill! How fun! Thanks for the link once again!

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We've also been working according to difficulty rating. We started with 1/1 regular size caches. I still try and mark those ones to find first! Then, we did a couple 1/1 smalls, and micros. After about a dozen or so regular 1/1's I started marking 2/2's and I think the hardest one we've found yet was a 2.5/2.5, but it was hidden just as well as the 1/1's. So, paying attention to the difficulty ratings has been a huge help to us! Also, reading the other log entries for a cache. For the first few we did, I read all the log entries, and the hints, so we'd know where to find them! It was a big help, and we seem to be stumped less and less often. One other thing, more than one set of eyes helps a lot. I might be able to find one on my own, but if I take along one other person, the chances are, I'll find one much faster...and if there's 2 more people along...we find it faster still. Extra eyes really help! And, if the person holding the GPSr can't figure it out...pass it on to someone else in the group...they may have better luck in which ways they turn, etc. Good luck hunting, I'm sure that you'll find some soon. Don't give up! It's ok to go back and look more than once. One of ours we looked 3 times b4 we finally found it! Don't give up. I'm sure you'll have success soon!

Rubber stamps can be good for signing log books. So far, our family is the only ones that do that in our area...that I know of...and we've only been to about 2 dozen geocaches...so we have limited experience. LBworld.org is a good site for advice in their forums. It is a letterboxing site, but the people are friendly, and they have good advice. Also, stamps make good swag items Happy carving

Rare, I usually forget something. Blue, I have the things I need at a bare minimum...but that's it...no extras...and I've forgotten some things that I really should have. AS to steaks...well done!

It's in Connecticut!!! ONLY 3000 miles away!!!! Hmm....I guess I'll have to make my own! Oh well, it will give me opportunities to be creative Thanks for the ideas! And, I like the plastic log idea too!!! I've seen a couple of those in the "Cool Cache Containers" thread. ...even fake cow pie ones...but I don't think I'm quite that cruel. Once again, thanks for the ideas

Oh, I'm so tempted to say something about that one country...but I'm not supposed to...so... Thanks for the cool pic of the woodpecker on that guys head!!! And, I'm sure that audio file is just as great....it's just that I need to find another copy of it or something to listen to it 'cuz for some reason it wouldn't play...even with Quicktime...oh well. And, one other thing...I read today that the Cache River area is huge!!!! There is plenty of room for geocaches there...it's just that they'd have to have titles like "Cottonmouth City," and, "Mosquito Madness." Oh well, I'm in Oregon, a long way from those cool birds. Good luck to the Arkansas Cachers who might get to see some of those birds while out caching

Thanks for the thoughts all I'll see what I can come up with in the next couple of weeks

I don't think they're the same as pileated woodpeckers. I read in the paper today that Ivory Bills can have up to 30 inch wing spans!!! That's only 6 in. short of a yard!!!! That is a MONSTER woodpecker!!! Also, it seems they have white on the tops of the end parts of the wings. The pileateds I've seen seem to be mostly black, including the tops of the wings. They also seem to be slightly smaller than crows. The thump thump is probably the sound of their bill hitting a tree. Their call IS weird though. Maybe a good locationless would be to get a pic of one of those Ivory Bills?...of course this might be against land use rules...i.e. habitat stuff probably.

I have not placed any caches yet, but hopefully in the near future I will. I've found some wonderful camo jobs done on caches. But, there are very few that are painted in bright colors. I know the object is to keep it hidden, but I'm thinking of doing some wild paint jobs...i.e. zebra stripes, leopard spots in purple, things like that...and letting the natural camo cover them up. By using the unnatural piles of rocks or sticks, or large pieces of bark they should be well hidden. And, I'm thinking they'll be more fun to find...especially the logging part when one tries to be discreet. Maybe if they're placed near a university they'll be less obvious...some people may not think anything of some guy sitting down next to a flourescent orange and purple container writing in a little notebook. I realize I might lose some caches with paint jobs like this ...but what do you think?...or is this kind of thing WAY more common that I think ...and I just haven't come across it yet?

It might make a good CITO cache too. Find a TAG, and then talk to the property owner to see if you can paint over it. I'm not sure how well it would go over to do it like that...but it's a thought. Otherwise...I think it's a great idea VERY Creative ...even without the CITO bit ...but what if the property owners paint over the tags???....that's the only negative I see...otherwise go for it