LukeTrocity

In this situation I agree with you, should totally delete the log if your the CO. I guess I don't understand why anyone cares about other peoples finds though. I'm concerned with my expierences with my family during the find, not some kid logging finds he never got. I found a log yesterday that was full and soaked. Does that count as a DNF? I snapped a photo as proof and continued my hike.

Could not have said it better. The same thing happened to me - I logged a DNF after not being able to find a cache up a very steep hill. The CO went to GZ and could see I had been in the area and offered me to log a find. I politely refused their offer and I went back and dragged my carcass up the steep hill again to find the cache and log that find. I would rather cache with the forementioned integrity - and I would sincerely hope other fellow serious cachers would do the same. It just goes to show that the game has different meanings to different people. No offence - but I will have to agree to disagree with you here. Luketrocity. That's fine, but one in particular do you disagree with?

I think everyone needs to take a step back and remember this is a GAME. Not only is it a game, but its a game where we aren't competing directly with each other. If someone falsifies a find it doesnt effect anyone except themselves. There are special situations where you cannot sign the log (IE wet, torn stuck etc) so you can't always sign it. At the end of the day does it really ruin the game if someone wants to "boost" their stats? Not for me it doesn't. If we wanted to take the rule literally it says we need to "SIGN" the log. I know of quite a few people that use stickers. Does that mean they should be stripped of their finds? Just seems like we're over thinking the entire reason for the game here. Exploring different areas with others and looking at the world in new ways. It's not about putting ink on a piece of paper.

It's a good thing too as it doesn't appear to meet the guidelines. Not today's guidelines, but there was a time when that would have been allowed. I'm new to geocaching, I'm not aware of this not being against caching rules. I go with my kids for the fun of my new hobby. I'm starting to think I don't fit in around here. I didn't know I would set off nasty comments. Maybe someone can chime in and tell me some bad things about my kids or something now. I wouldn't worry about what some people on the forums say. Seems like some of the more active people are kind of full of themselves and consider themselves the geocache experts. Expert or not, no reason to make someone new feel unwelcome. Don't forget why you cache, to spend time with your family.

I honestly don't see what the big deal is. As others have said, sometimes the log is very wet or damaged. I have had trouble getting the log out of a nano and instead of ripping it did not sign the log. If someone wants to boost their stats by saying they found it when they didn't...I say let them. It doesn't effect me at all because I'll know my finds are legit and theirs are not. In the end this is all about the expierences of getting and finding the cache, not writing your name on a sheet of paper. 1st post ever btw.