
Printess Caroline
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I get no pleasure out of trying to act sneaky around strangers.
I'm with you. If we see that the cache is located in a very busy place, we will pass it by and head to a cache that would be more fun for us. No biggie.
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Naw, it's all over [New York]. Mostly Long Island, Syracuse, and Albany areas. I don't think Mr. Repak is going to be stealing any more caches.
Some creep was "fouling" caches in the Albany area not long ago. I noticed an increase in PM caches in this area after that.
(sheesh, I'm having troubles with this simple post!)
Now that you mention it, I'd say most are Albany area. I wonder what they all think of me looking at their MOC's just a few minutes ago to see where they were.
What's up with this Turf War nonsense, I don't get it.
The Turf War caches are a series of caches poking fun at area cachers. They are meant in good fun, but they make little sense to cachers outside the group that participates in placing them.
There are a couple of our most prolific cache placers who seem to only place PM caches recently. While the creep activity in Albany may been the impetus for placing PM caches, these cachers have found placing PM caches very attractive even outside the affected area for some reason I don't understand. I imagine that these cachers are the reason that you've noticed the spike in PM caches here.
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I've had trouble finding small log books suitable for 1/3 litre Lock&Lock boxes etc. I know that GS do a tiny logbook, but it's hideously expensive IMO. So, I thought that I'd give making my own a go and a couple of hours work produced the logbook pictured below. Pages are approx A8 in size with the overall dimensions of approx 2.5" x 3". I've used a high-quality paper and there are 94 usable pages (i.e. 188 sides). The book is case-bound (sewn) for durability, although it's not "lay-flat". I'm quite pleased with the results. However, the cover of this one is calico, which might absorb moisture, so I'm looking for a more moisture-resistant covering material for the next.
Here's the photos (click each for the full-sized version).
Geoff
Impressive! Beautiful work! As ras_oscar says, it may inspire more thoughtful written logs. I know that I would pause longer at your cache because of your log book.
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But anybody can get annoyed with anything they love.
My husband makes that quite clear to me on occasion.
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You have my sympathy. I think that we've all had some sort of complication that could have been prevented with proper owner maintenance of the cache or its listing.
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I'm in New York State too. I regularly surf the listings of the newest caches in our Empire State, and the last 6 months or so I've noticed tons of new caches in other sections of the State are Members Only. I'd say 20% some weeks. I never track them though, maybe it's one of those deals where people just make them MOC's when they're new, and they remove the restriction later. I have not noticed this in Pa. or Ontario, where I also surf the new listings.
If by "other sections of the State" you mean the area around Rome, NY, then this thread might shed some light on why many of the caches are members only:
Naw, it's all over. Mostly Long Island, Syracuse, and Albany areas. I don't think Mr. Repak is going to be stealing any more caches.
Some creep was "fouling" caches in the Albany area not long ago. I noticed an increase in PM caches in this area after that.
(sheesh, I'm having troubles with this simple post!)
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I'm in New York State too. I regularly surf the listings of the newest caches in our Empire State, and the last 6 months or so I've noticed tons of new caches in other sections of the State are Members Only. I'd say 20% some weeks. I never track them though, maybe it's one of those deals where people just make them MOC's when they're new, and they remove the restriction later. I have not noticed this in Pa. or Ontario, where I also surf the new listings.
If by "other sections of the State" you mean the area around Rome, NY, then this thread might shed some light on why many of the caches are members only:
Naw, it's all over. Mostly Long Island, Syracuse, and Albany areas. I don't think Mr. Repak is going to be stealing any more caches.
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Suppose to be a great weekend here in the Hoosier State. My wife's college room mate is visiting so I might take her kids out caching with me and mine so they can have some time to visit.
What plans do y'all have?
We're taking a day trip down to Long Island to pick up caches for the very last six pages of the New York DeLorme challenge. Wahoo! We're really excited about it!!
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I'm not a big fan of PM caches. I've been seeing a lot of them pop up in my area and I don't understand why. They are just your average caches and I see no reason for them to be PM caches except to satisfy the virtually ogling cache owner.
OR? Could they be placed without the necessary permission and the PM cache designation helps to hide the fact from the public??
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I have a couple premium caches out there... and my reason is I just watch to see who has visited the page. Its actually kind neat to see where some of the people hail from that look at the descriptions.
Odie
Personally, I find this a bit creepy. Now that I own a PM cache and I see how it works, I am really hesitant to visit or revisit PM cache pages. I'm one who generally likes to go back and check on the pages of caches that I have done to see what others have experienced there, but now, I avoid doing that with PM caches. I don't like the feeling that I may be watched and, possibly, suspected of doing something wrong if that caches turns up missing.
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#2. Cache traffic reduction.
That is the reason that I made one of my caches PM. The final is a handmade piece that may be highly desirable for someone to take home with them. It is easy to spot once you get to GZ, so I've also locked it in place just in case some non-cacher happens to walk through that area. I know that it could still be taken, but I have done what I can to decrease the odds of that happening. I worked over a week on the final. It was great fun, but it wouldn't be fun for me to replace it. Therefore, if it walks off, that is the end of the cache.
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In addition to many of the other items mentioned above, we always carry a compass. We have found it very handy when neither the GPSr nor we know which direction we've turned. Also, it's good back-up if our GPSrs both fail for some reason and we are out in the middle of the woods.
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You could log a note responding politely and succintly to his/her log on your cache. The note would show that you are a responsible owner and would allow you to correct the false accusations. It would also help to move the miserable cacher's log farther down the line and closer to scrolling off the front page. Then, I would suggest that you move on and try to ignore this person and his/her logs on other's caches. You know what kind of person this cacher is, and it sounds like the other cachers in your area know as well.
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Post a note to the reviewer requesting it when you submit your new caches.
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I luv the custom ones
Fake nuts, bolts, birdhouses, birdfeeders, hollowed log, stake in the ground, spider in tree/bush, bugs(bee and dragonfly found so far), container on chain glued under fence post cap and etc....
Once your find them you just smile ear to ear at the creativity.
Me too!
If it's not a creative container, then I guess I prefer the small to traditional size because I like to check out the swag before signing the log.
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I have only logged a DNF twice. One was a 50degree down slope and if I slid down it, I might not get back up again. Will not go back to that one
The second was a series of micros that were at a park, put the hider decided to put them all off in the heavy
brush at the very edges of the park. Won't go back to that one either.
The others, I intend to go look for when there isn't snow on the ground. If I can't find it, then I will log it DNF.
Colleen Mills
digitalgoddess
Mulvane,Kansas
So you're not going to be a friendly cacher by logging DNFs on the too-snowy-to-find caches? DNFs like that are helpful to those searching for caches that would be snow friendly finds.
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Here are our escorts, Durpy and Sparky. Neither of them are interested in caching, but they both enjoy going along.
Durpy is about 3. The people at the shelter thought she was a Jack Russell / Basenji mix, but there's no way that explains all of her. She loves a good walk, especially if there are some critters along the way.
Sparky is an Australian Cattledog. At her age (13), she's not one to enjoy long walks, but she still loves a short walk to a cache and the rest time she gets while we search for it.
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...In truth, I think there was probably one complaint, and it was probably sent in by one person who already has complaints about the OPs other recent activities. I could be wrong though...
The boldened part is what I suspect also. Not only did the person possibly get several logs on caches he owns advertising the event, he might have also gotten one of those pesky emails about missing TBs and how joespaz is on a mission to have them removed from cache inventories. Adding on to all this, it is my assumption that all of the area caches are being cleared of TBs for this event by the OP. (I didn't check.)
As NYPaddleCacher suggests, your advertising might be doing more to scare people away than encouraging them to come. I'm sorry to say that I would be running the other way after seeing some of your tactics. You seem obsessive and overbearing in your approach.
I am sorry that you think that this is my goal...
I did not think that it was your goal to scare people away. What I was trying to point out is that your overzealous methods may be counter-productive.
I'm glad to hear that not everyone has the same reaction that I would have. Hope you have a lovely time at your event!
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Has the definition of Spam changed? I can see it being considered spamming if the logs were written for the sole purpose of announcing the event, but they were ligitimate find logs, and then they contained the info on the event. How does that make them spam? They would have been written with or without the add on. i'm not going to argue about the Tone/Degree though, I thing a differently worded tag may have avoided any complaints. In truth, I think there was probably one complaint, and it was probably sent in by one person who already has complaints about the OPs other recent activities. I could be wrong though.
I have a biased opinion on spam though, I've never really had to deal with it on a large scale, (until I got some facebooks apps). I guess folks who have been getting more of it for a longer time are more sensitive to it. On the other hand, I think the term is used to to make people think they are more wrong that they really are. It's like when I see someone throwing the term "entitlement" out there to try making someone feel like they are asking too much. Advertising or not, these logs were not Spamming.
The boldened part is what I suspect also. Not only did the person possibly get several logs on caches he owns advertising the event, he might have also gotten one of those pesky emails about missing TBs and how joespaz is on a mission to have them removed from cache inventories. Adding on to all this, it is my assumption that all of the area caches are being cleared of TBs for this event by the OP. (I didn't check.)
As NYPaddleCacher suggests, your advertising might be doing more to scare people away than encouraging them to come. I'm sorry to say that I would be running the other way after seeing some of your tactics. You seem obsessive and overbearing in your approach.
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I've decided that the best thing I could do is play the way I wish others did:
Clean up a cache that needs help whenever I can.
CITO as often as possible.
Leave interesting logs at the cache site AND online.
Hide the type of caches that I would enjoy looking for.
Add a gaol tag to TB's that don't have one.
Maybe if I play the game this way, I will enjoy it more.
Thank you all for your input! I have learned a lot...I hope.
All good things (except I would take a gander at the thread on TB hospitals before doing the last task on your list). But it is where you go beyond this list where you seem to get into trouble.
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It's one thing to say you were at an event or found a cache on the way to an event or something like that. By posting the link and stuff in your log, you look like you're using your log on someones cache page to promote the event. That rubs people the wrong way. I'm not a fan of that.
Also, Editing your log like this is kinda lame man.
joespaz found Holey Moley Batman, #499 (Traditional Cache)Found It
(I edited this log to "Found It" because someone complained I was "advertising" by mentioning an upcoming event. Hopefully this will fix the problem.)
[This entry was edited by joespaz on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 4:45:59 PM.]
If I got one of your advertisement logs I would be annoyed. If you then edited out the ad and added this remark, I would think you're 'doubley' annoying. Just delete the advertising and move on.
Really?! I sure hope you edited the log again.
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a simple removal by the TBO would be appropriate but if they don't respond to their own property then its us as the CO to remove it from the inventory.
It seems that most notes I see that mention a Trackable being absent are posted to the Cache page, and never make it to the Travelers page. A CO might receive a few to several of these notes, and the TBO may never receive one.
Yes, the first responsibility should lie with the TB owner. It seems most appropriate to notify that person rather than the owner of the cache. In my experience, though, it doesn't generally make a difference. The best advice I can give people who are disappointed to not find the traveler they hoped to find in the cache is just don't expect the traveler to be there. Then, it is a happy surprise if it is, and not finding it will merely cause you to shrug.
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Hi,
I am JoeSpaz and I was looking for Travel Bugs and Geocoins to move along today. It seemed that the trackable(s) listed below were missing from the cache that they are listed in.
TBXXXX (visit link)
GCYYYY (visit link)
Just to let you know, if you wish there is an easy way to mark the trackable as missing. Just go to http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?p...page&id=152 and follow the instructions.
I'm trying to let people know how to mark trackables as missing so that cachers won't be disappointed when they go to find trackables and there aren't any. If you got this email before, I'm sorry. I wasn't keeping track of the emails I sent but now I am.
Thanks
Joespaz
I hope this note would solve the problem mentioned by the OP.
If you are really driven to send these emails, which it seems you are, I would not advertise your mission. It's that last paragraph that would raise my hackles a little if I received your email because it makes me quite aware that you have an agenda and you feel that I'm not performing to your standards. Therefore, I would delete that paragraph. Then, I think that the email would have the feel that you are looking for.
Would it be possible to convince you to not make this effort so much of a mission? Why not just enjoy your usual caching travels and make note of missing trackables as you go? Your statement that you have put into place a "systematic method of checking each cache in my area" seems a bit obsessive to me. I don't think that this issue is that important.
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I would not visit one of my caches just to check on trackables. (Except, perhaps, My Front Yard.
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However, if I'm doing maintenance, I usually note what (if any) TBs are there, and will mark any Missing (unknown location) that are listed on the cache page but not in the cache (unless there's a recent paper log noting their removal). Likewise, if several finders log that a TB is not in a cache, I will mark it Missing. I usually also log a note on the TB's page alerting the owner (who often doesn't know).
I view this as a simple courtesy and way of helping other cachers, just like replacing a logbook or CITOing contraband. (Caches are personal property, too.)
Correct TB info on my cache pages minimizes disappointed visitors hoping to find a particular TB, and TB owners sometimes don't know their TB has gone AWOL (unless someone has emailed them or posted a note on the TB page), only that it hasn't moved in a while.
I agree with this as well. It's easy to mark missing travelers as "missing", and doing so tidies the potential cludder and eliminates confusion on the cache's page. Now, as far as the other cacher getting on owners' cases about this issue... yah, that would rub me wrong also.
laying a log?
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As others have suggested, pegs would be better than a hinge. You will definitely need some support for the bark. Do you have the piece of wood that you cut out which was once attached to the bark? That would be perfect. If you don't, perhaps you could find a similarly sized log from which you could cut a section. I envision it working like a lid with pegs that hold it in place. Titebond III is an excellent wood glue. I highly recommend it.