Bear and Ting

INDIANA'S Hunting and Trapping Seasons and Bag Limits 2002-2003 Early migratory game bird season dates and bag limits Waterfowl hunting season dates and bag limits FURBEARERS HUNTING DATES Red and Gray Fox, Coyote Oct. 15, 2002 - Feb. 28, 2003 Raccoon and Opossum Nov. 8, 2002 - Jan. 31, 2003 Dog Running (Raccoon, Opossum) Feb. 15, 2002 - Oct. 14, 2002 TRAPPING DATES Beaver Nov. 15, 2002 - March 15, 2003 Weasel, Mink, Muskrat Nov. 15, 2002 - Jan. 31, 2003 Skunk Oct. 15, 2002 - Jan. 31, 2003 Red and Gray Fox, Coyote Oct. 15, 2002 - Jan. 31, 2003 Raccoon and Opossum Nov. 15, 2002 - Jan. 31, 2003 Furbearer hunting hours: Hunting/Running - noon of first day to noon of last day, Trapping - 8 a.m. of first day to noon of last day. WOODLAND GAME HUNTING DATES BAG LIMIT Wild Turkey (bearded or male turkey) April 24, 2002 - May 12, 2002 1 per season Squirrel North of U.S. 40 Aug. 15, 2002 - Dec. 31, 2002 5 per day South of U.S. 40 Aug. 15, 2002 - Jan. 31, 2003 5 per day Ruffed Grouse Oct. 1, 2002 - Dec. 31, 2002 2 per day Deer Early Archery Oct. 1, 2002 - Dec. 1, 2002 Firearms/ Projected Seasons Nov. 16, 2002 - Dec. 1, 2002 Muzzleloader Dec. 7, 2002 - Dec. 22, 2002 Late Archery Dec. 7, 2002 - Jan. 5, 2003 I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

...I've been happy with it so far. However, I've run into one problem: it only allows 500 wayspoints in memory. Call me a packrat, but I like to keep all the WPs in it (found or not) for the state. I keep my Palm up-to-date too. I mean, you never know where you might end up, eh? Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

....the new Jeep commercial where the girl drops a napkin in the bar for the guy to pick up. He does and you think it is her phone nbr, you see him drive off and through some rugged terrain until he gets to a waterfall. Then you see the napkin and see that it contains Lat & Log and er name. Real cute, but I've not seen the GPS he uses yet. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

....the new Jeep commercial where the girl drops a napkin in the bar for the guy to pick up. He does and you think it is her phone nbr, you see him drive off and through some rugged terrain until he gets to a waterfall. Then you see the napkin and see that it contains Lat & Log and er name. Real cute, but I've not seen the GPS he uses yet. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

...anyone realizes just how much better you feel until your wife needs something from the store and instead of just hopping in the car and driving 4-5 blocks, you just put on a comfortable pair of shoes and walk it. I honestly would not have down that 8 months ago, before I was told about geocaching. Now, I can walk farther, have lost weight, and just plain feel better. Thank you Jeremy et all, Bear (& Ting) I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

One, this one, could not be posted in the GC logs (define family activity), I therefore posted it in my web journal. The second one was posted in the Sycamore Loop cache log. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

Jolly: Congrats on your 100th cache. You beat us to that milestone by a day or two, but amazingly enough, we are not out of breath. No, we were not racing you. I read this post from you last night and have been trying to think of something witty or clever or thought provoking, something more than what you have said. My wife and I were reflecting on this thought as we drove home and you have hit it all. We have good stories, we feel good (in all ways), and we look forward to many more cache finds. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

Jolly: Congrats on your 100th cache. You beat us to that milestone by a day or two, but amazingly enough, we are not out of breath. No, we were not racing you. I read this post from you last night and have been trying to think of something witty or clever or thought provoking, something more than what you have said. My wife and I were reflecting on this thought as we drove home and you have hit it all. We have good stories, we feel good (in all ways), and we look forward to many more cache finds. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

...I was told that they will provide ver.xx upgrades at no charge. However, they will be charging for VER.) upgrades and their next release of both MapSend AND their firmware will be a full version release (due out 1st quarter of 2003). The gentleman I spoke to reported that their engineers were not prepared for the popularity of games such as geocaching and they were addressing issues that have come up. When I asked about Beta testing, he said they would not be releasing any beta code. I suggested that they look at Garmin, as they are not charging for upgrades AND are now offering beta. He said he would take that up the line. All in all, they seem to be responding, but also seem a little behind the game. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

quote:Originally posted by crr003:When I posted the above reply, the system replaced what I actually typed with ***. So in response to the other thread on censorship, yes it does seem to exist. But now this calls into question my theory about British English - maybe Bear & Ting were using the British to bypass the censorship filter? Anyway it's still bum/***. ...there was a censor in the forums, but I am not suprised and I do welcome it. I was not trying to get around it, but at the time was trying to make the point that some things look differenet from another perspective. It looks like I did jolly good. It is funny, but Sir Beavis did hit it on the head. My first response was half-cocked as I had not read the complete forum thread and others had already explained some of the points I was trying to make. However, my second post did take most of the thread into consideration and I noticed that they did not dispute any of it. quote:Are you guys normal members of society? Or are you mad at the WORLD. We can understand not agreeing with the TOPIC! What we don't agree on is calling us and our four kids SCRAWNY LITTLE BUMS. We don't need you to watch our cache. If you read the forums before posting such rubbish, you would know this. I apologize for the misinterpretation of my english, I was not calling your family "bums", but was referring to your back-side and getting it back out here to the hoosier state to do cache maintenance (when needed). There is nothing I hate seeing more than an abandoned or unmaintained cache, filled with water and a soaked log-book. I have adopted one cache (due to the cache owners moving). I have asked that another be archived/removed for the reason that no one has maintained it and the owner has not logged into the site since march. As for your cache in Indiana, do you place contact information on your stash note? If the land manager did find it and have questions, would they be able to contact you? Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

If asked by an authority (proof must be provided) that I remove my cache, be it real (tupperware, ammo, etc) or virtual, I would do so. However, I think I would take it a bit further. I would request a meeting with the person, take my case to him (esp about the virtual). I would ask what the objections were, and if I did not like them and could not sway him, well.... everyone answers to someone. I move up the chain. Thank goodness I have not had to do that, yet. I am working my way up to get permission to place one (at the suggestion of the park super). She does not like the idea, but the decision is the park boards (which she has at least two votes in her pocket already). Now, there is an exception to every rule. The only time I would not remove a virtual is IF it were already on an established and published trail. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

If asked by an authority (proof must be provided) that I remove my cache, be it real (tupperware, ammo, etc) or virtual, I would do so. However, I think I would take it a bit further. I would request a meeting with the person, take my case to him (esp about the virtual). I would ask what the objections were, and if I did not like them and could not sway him, well.... everyone answers to someone. I move up the chain. Thank goodness I have not had to do that, yet. I am working my way up to get permission to place one (at the suggestion of the park super). She does not like the idea, but the decision is the park boards (which she has at least two votes in her pocket already). Now, there is an exception to every rule. The only time I would not remove a virtual is IF it were already on an established and published trail. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

quote:Originally posted by upinyachit:The cache in Pueblo West was amongst other caches in the area, mainly by Scott and Gina as well as The Thieves in the Knight. They both have found ours and had no problem us being "in their back yard"! Authorities told us as long as the hours of operation for the park were observed, there was no problem. As far as the Indiana cache; it was placed at a Rest Area in an area that is not maintained by the state; woods if you will. I did a little research and there are many rest area caches in the United States and they make wonderful "easy find" caches that are great for the geotravelers! If you had to go through all of that just to place two caches, then you should reconsider where you are planning to hide them. Town parks are a great place in our area. A list of rules are available for our information at all town community centers. Does that answer your question? Candie Upinyachit Our feet go where the caches are! ...a few things. First, I've lived in Colorado Springs and have been back many times, your attitude is not what I would have suspected from that area, you must have been living in NY too long. Secondly, the Rest Areas along the US Interstate system are maintained by the state. The wooded areas are just as much a part of the Rest Area, even though they may look unmaintained. The state is responsible, like any other property owner is, for what happens on their property. Therefore, you still should have gotten permission. "What?!", you may be thinking, "Other people have hidden caches in Rest Areas, so why can't I?" I am not saying that you cannot, but you might want to think about some of the activities that may be going on at these places. This is a family game/sport. I know I have read news articles about various illegal activities (drugs and such) happening in the "unmaintained" areas of Rest Stops. Enuff said on that. Lastly, town parks have park boards (which my father was a member of years before there was geocaching). Organized games, which geocaching is considered, is not permitted in most of the parks without written permission. Why? Blame the lawyers, or the fools who get hurt and sue the park for their own stupidity. I placed the Bear's Woodland Treasures with full permission from the park board of this small (backwards) Indiana town with the understanding that I would maintain it, remove it (if asked), and promote the game by getting other cache owners to ask permission. This last request was asked by the park manager who manages this park and is also a conservation officer. He has found/removed caches without knowing what they were when they were found in nature preserves without permission. He understands the game much better now and he is willing to work with us. However, you coming through and not knowing this, dropping a cache where ever the urge hits you (good trinkets or not), and then leaving does not suit his tastes. Enuff said. Bear & Ting

quote:Originally posted by upinyachit:The cache in Pueblo West was amongst other caches in the area, mainly by Scott and Gina as well as The Thieves in the Knight. They both have found ours and had no problem us being "in their back yard"! Authorities told us as long as the hours of operation for the park were observed, there was no problem. As far as the Indiana cache; it was placed at a Rest Area in an area that is not maintained by the state; woods if you will. I did a little research and there are many rest area caches in the United States and they make wonderful "easy find" caches that are great for the geotravelers! If you had to go through all of that just to place two caches, then you should reconsider where you are planning to hide them. Town parks are a great place in our area. A list of rules are available for our information at all town community centers. Does that answer your question? Candie Upinyachit Our feet go where the caches are! ...a few things. First, I've lived in Colorado Springs and have been back many times, your attitude is not what I would have suspected from that area, you must have been living in NY too long. Secondly, the Rest Areas along the US Interstate system are maintained by the state. The wooded areas are just as much a part of the Rest Area, even though they may look unmaintained. The state is responsible, like any other property owner is, for what happens on their property. Therefore, you still should have gotten permission. "What?!", you may be thinking, "Other people have hidden caches in Rest Areas, so why can't I?" I am not saying that you cannot, but you might want to think about some of the activities that may be going on at these places. This is a family game/sport. I know I have read news articles about various illegal activities (drugs and such) happening in the "unmaintained" areas of Rest Stops. Enuff said on that. Lastly, town parks have park boards (which my father was a member of years before there was geocaching). Organized games, which geocaching is considered, is not permitted in most of the parks without written permission. Why? Blame the lawyers, or the fools who get hurt and sue the park for their own stupidity. I placed the Bear's Woodland Treasures with full permission from the park board of this small (backwards) Indiana town with the understanding that I would maintain it, remove it (if asked), and promote the game by getting other cache owners to ask permission. This last request was asked by the park manager who manages this park and is also a conservation officer. He has found/removed caches without knowing what they were when they were found in nature preserves without permission. He understands the game much better now and he is willing to work with us. However, you coming through and not knowing this, dropping a cache where ever the urge hits you (good trinkets or not), and then leaving does not suit his tastes. Enuff said. Bear & Ting

quote:Originally posted by upinyachit: quote: Hmmm. I wonder if this is more about "turf"? Like you stay out of my backyard and I'll stay out of yours. That's MY park you're sticking that cache in and it "belongs" to me. Oh really? I think you are right! Anyone feeling like the quote above? Too bad. It is NOT your park or land that it's going on. This has got to be what everyone is upset about. While on vacation, we DID GO GEOCACHING, DUH!!! How could you possibly think that we went all that way and didn't find any caches? We introduced geocaching to several new members, one of which will be maintaining the cache in Pueblo West. We are not expecting anyone to "babysit" our cache in Indiana either. quote: In short, don't be rude. Hunt caches while on vacation. Place caches close to home. Excuse me, but we will hide our caches where ever we want; as long as it's not on private property. I can tell you one thing.... Indiana and Colorado are now familiar with UPINYACHIT! Travel bugs have already been and left the Stop N Rest Cache. Hmmmm, think they just stopped and rested before going on their way?? He he! If there were any problems with our caches, there are plenty of kind hearted geocachers out there that would check on it for us. How do you know we won't check on it ourselves? We like to drive! LOL We don't expect ANYONE to feel like they have to "babysit" our caches. I would if someone asked us; what's the big deal anyways? Look out! We are already planning where to go next! He he! Candie from Upinyachit Our feet go where the caches are! Too bad you have such a bad-arsed attitude. Geesh! It is just a game! Am I mad that you placed a cache down the road from me? No! Will I visit it? Maybe, it is a cache after all? Will I maintain it for you? No way! You get your scrawny little bum back out here and do it yourself. As someone else pointed out, there is a rule about maintaining your caches. My wife and I have traveled the world (or are in the process of doing so, slowly). Anyway, I love the fact that a local resident of an area can show me things that the normal tourist will never see. What vacation cachers tend to leave is that same thing that other vacationers see or visit. So, unless you take the time to research the area and have something unique to bring me to, please, just keep your tinkets to yourself or trade them in caches that you find. Let your feet go where the caches are. Thank you, Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

quote:Originally posted by upinyachit: quote: Hmmm. I wonder if this is more about "turf"? Like you stay out of my backyard and I'll stay out of yours. That's MY park you're sticking that cache in and it "belongs" to me. Oh really? I think you are right! Anyone feeling like the quote above? Too bad. It is NOT your park or land that it's going on. This has got to be what everyone is upset about. While on vacation, we DID GO GEOCACHING, DUH!!! How could you possibly think that we went all that way and didn't find any caches? We introduced geocaching to several new members, one of which will be maintaining the cache in Pueblo West. We are not expecting anyone to "babysit" our cache in Indiana either. quote: In short, don't be rude. Hunt caches while on vacation. Place caches close to home. Excuse me, but we will hide our caches where ever we want; as long as it's not on private property. I can tell you one thing.... Indiana and Colorado are now familiar with UPINYACHIT! Travel bugs have already been and left the Stop N Rest Cache. Hmmmm, think they just stopped and rested before going on their way?? He he! If there were any problems with our caches, there are plenty of kind hearted geocachers out there that would check on it for us. How do you know we won't check on it ourselves? We like to drive! LOL We don't expect ANYONE to feel like they have to "babysit" our caches. I would if someone asked us; what's the big deal anyways? Look out! We are already planning where to go next! He he! Candie from Upinyachit Our feet go where the caches are! Too bad you have such a bad-arsed attitude. Geesh! It is just a game! Am I mad that you placed a cache down the road from me? No! Will I visit it? Maybe, it is a cache after all? Will I maintain it for you? No way! You get your scrawny little bum back out here and do it yourself. As someone else pointed out, there is a rule about maintaining your caches. My wife and I have traveled the world (or are in the process of doing so, slowly). Anyway, I love the fact that a local resident of an area can show me things that the normal tourist will never see. What vacation cachers tend to leave is that same thing that other vacationers see or visit. So, unless you take the time to research the area and have something unique to bring me to, please, just keep your tinkets to yourself or trade them in caches that you find. Let your feet go where the caches are. Thank you, Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

... love to read (and write) logs. Yes, we are sometimes disappointed when a suprise is ruined, and we try our hardest not to give away any secrets or suprises. If you would like to see an example of our adventures, just go to the August 16th Entry.. Now before you throw stones at trailblazers, make sure you have never done it yourselves. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

... love to read (and write) logs. Yes, we are sometimes disappointed when a suprise is ruined, and we try our hardest not to give away any secrets or suprises. If you would like to see an example of our adventures, just go to the August 16th Entry.. Now before you throw stones at trailblazers, make sure you have never done it yourselves. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

...words can often fail us at times like these. Some words offer comfort and support, when one can come up with them and express them in a thoughtful manner. I've never been good at that, but you do have my sympathies. I did not know Bec or of her suffering. I know am glad to know she went peacefully. May the peace she went with follow you through this and bring you comfort. May her strength support you and her compassion embrace you. May her spirit guide you through you cache quest of life. I am sure she will be missed by many. Bear & Ting I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

quote:Originally posted by Mudfrog:Sorry but i have to disagree with some of your statement. Granted a year ago, even a few months ago, GeoCaching was barely even heard of. I think its a different ballgame now and if you "take the risk" and get caught with GPS in hand, then theres a good chance that GeoCaching would be supsected! Sure its a small thing this one time, but these small things sure are gonna add up. Sorry, but I would have to disagree with you. I've run into Park Rangers and Conservation Officers (CO) here in Indiana while hiking. After talking about many things, all the while with GPS in hand, the subject of geocaching is broughtup. However, 98% of the time (27 out of 28 since I started counting), it is brought up by me. Of those 27, only 2 had heard of geocaching. Now, I did learn something. Caching itself has been around for a long time. Caches were mainly food and supplies left, yet hidden, along the trail. They were either for the person who left them, or word was passed around where they could be found. One CO told me of remnants they found from the 1830's (and yes, it WAS in an Ammo Box... a very rotten wooden one). Anyway, the game is still srpeading, but it is not known as well as you may think, at least not in this area. Bear I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

quote:Originally posted by sbell111: I suggest that, when talking to a reporter, the focus on cachestash is minimized and the other benefits of the activity is stressed (exercise, knowledge of new and cool locations, family time, et al). WAIT JUST ONE DARNED SECOND! This is EXERCISE?!?! I have to spend MORE time with my wife? And I HAVE to see new and cool locations?? I KNEW there was a catch!! Bear I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

Jeremy et all: Thank you for all you have been working on. I have a request that is outside the Pocket Query or XML/GPX stuff you are working on. I may have seen this request before, but I could not find it on a quick search. Since we can log into the geocaching.com site, we must have a user profile. Is there a way to store preferences for "searching" like "exclude multi" or "show only those found in XX days". I know this is on the pocket Query, but in just a simple query from the main page, it would be nice to exclude the ones you don't want to see. Bear I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

...have limited range, there is one channel that they are trying to reserve for Emergencies. I beleive I've read that to Channel 1, sub 0. Is that correct? Bear I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

....engraving "Bear & Ting were here" on Ancient Roman Coins would do a whole lot of good. These coins sure don't last long in the caches and we get alot of compliments and comments on them. Bear I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!

... i was already married for 6 years when it was introduced to us. However, we had just started geocaching about a month before Ting's (my wife's) b-day. I decided to send her on her own personal cache hunt. It took a little planning, including asking merchants help (most thought it cleaver and thoughtful, a few just did not get it). And, to make it more a suprise, her search was launched the day before her b-day. On that day, a friend of ours called Ting down (we all work in the same building). They chatted for a bit and then she asked my wife if she knew what she was getting for her b-day. Ting did not know and said as much. Our friend then handed her a card, inside was a poem and a waypoint. Ting was then handed my GPS, which I had spend 2 weeks programming in around 250+ legitmate waypoints (parks, hotels, resteraunts, etc.), all the tracks and routes were erased (I did not want her to skip anything or guess). The GPS got her to a parking lot of a small shopping center and the poem told her where to go. Her first stop was a chocolate/coffee shop. There, she got a gift and her next card with another poem (I wrote these poems myself too) and the next way point. All in all, she had half a dozen waypoints picking up flowers, desserts, CDs (wrapped), DVDs (also wrapped), and dinner. Her last stop was at a place called Sybaris where I was waiting. It is a private club/hotel for couples only with different size suites. Since it was not yet her b-day, I made her wait until one minute after midnight. NOT! Ya know? I never thought about it, but ever since then, she has been addicted to geocaching. Maybe she is hoping to a repeat performance. I tell you all what though, I am not sure HOW I am gonna top this next year. Bear I thought I was a little off, then I looked at my GPS and discovered I accurate to 12 ft. Geocachers don't NEED to ask for directions!