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Clan Riffster

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  1. Of course they do. The 'problem', if you will, arises not from which screen happens to be displayed on your GPSr. Rather, the 'problem' arises because, regardless of what screen you use, at any given time your GPSr does not know precisely where you are. Your estimated position is an ever changing datum, even if you are standing still. The waypoint you are navigating toward, on the other hand, does not change position. Because your position is constantly bouncing around, in all directions, relative to the waypoint, your direction and distance also constantly change, even if you are standing still. It doesn't matter what screen you use. If you are used to using the map screen, you have likely learned to compensate for the fact that your estimated position changes several times a second. If you are used to the compass screen, you have likely learned to compensate for the fact that your estimated position changes several times a second.
  2. Wimsey, as a refresher, can you post the requirements which must be met to be considered for the GW voting pool?
  3. My tracklog feels differently. When my 60 settles down, and gets a good satellite lock, I can place it in a fixed location, zoom the map all the way in, and turn on the tracklog. If I leave it alone for five minutes, I have a mini tracklog bouncing around, doing the drunken bee dance, without the GPSr moving. I suspect that neither the map method, nor the compass method provides any higher degree of precision. Rather, I think it's more a matter of preference.
  4. Sorry. I was playing Angry Birds... What was the question again?
  5. If buried caches are outlawed, only outlaws will bury caches... Or, not...
  6. On a related note: a long time cacher friend uses what I consider to be a rather bizarre method for arriving at ground zero. Using his 60CSx in Data Screen mode, he has two windows displaying information. The top window shows his (estimated) position coordinates. The bottom window displays the cache coordinates. He walks until the two sets of numbers match. When I questioned him on this method, he seemed surprised that everybody didn't do it that way.
  7. I've seen a few new players over the years who cached that way. I suppose they held some belief that the gadget will bring them directly to the cache. By a vastly huge margin, those with a bit of experience pocket their gadget once they get fairly close, and switch to their geo-sense.
  8. Could be? One of my caching buddies uses a phone almost exclusively. His phone is an Apple product, with the official Groundspeak app. He uses the satellite view, on the map, when hunting caches, as that helps him visualize where he is, in relation to visible landmarks and such, as well as where the cache is. His first hundred or so caches were found with no GPS at all, not even a phone. He just printed out a Google Earth image, with the cache marked as a waypoint, and used that to conduct his hunt. I don't know if this is why he is more comfortable using the map view as opposed to the compass. I have heard him explaining geocaching to others, using the method you described: "I'm somewhere within this circle. The cache is somewhere within close proximity to that icon on the map. I walk till the circle overlaps the icon and commence searching." It works for him.
  9. Well, technically, in this case, "Never" means "usually not". One need only look at Mingo to see that sometimes, caches are, in fact, buried, with Groundspeak being aware of it. Granted, Mingo was placed before the particular guideline in question, and as such, is grandfathered, but it certainly demonstrates that the term, "Never", (which is an absolute), is an inaccurate term. As to buried caches on private property, I suspect they could be published, if explicit, verifiable consent was given to the Reviewer.
  10. I would love to see GWS at Stone Mountain Ga. I don't know if the Georgia folks are doing any bidding.
  11. Thank you Reviewers for not publishing this mess. Someone who can't even be bothered to respond to a Reviewer probably isn't a good candidate for owning a complex cache listing.
  12. I'm not sure where you would classify me. I am both a phone cacher and a GPS cacher. When I started this hobby, there was no phone option. Until about a year ago, the phone I had was way too dumb to cache with. When we were issued smart phones, the first app I downloaded was for caching. Which one I use depends largely on circumstances. On a related note, I use the compass regardless of which device I use. Personally, I don't believe one is more, or less, effective than the other. I believe that both utilize the same data, displaying it in a different format. Kind of like comparing a circle graph to a bar graph. They do the same thing. Some folks prefer circles, others prefer bars. Nothing wrong with either graph.
  13. Hi Nan. One thing I was wondering. Did you personally visit all six of these caches? Yes and I posted Found its on all of them. Thank you for doing the needful.
  14. Hi Nan. One thing I was wondering. Did you personally visit all six of these caches?
  15. I have several caches up in trees. I don't care how you find them. Climb the tree? Use a ladder? Borrow a crane? Rent an expendable teenager? Use a hook? My only requirement, so to speak, is that you enjoyed yourself. Edit to add: Except chainsaws. Chainsaws are right out!
  16. If I find a cache at the base of a tree, and another cache next to a boulder, (both clearly and unequivocally above ground), and I call someone in charge and report that I found two buried caches, is that really a matter of imagination? I would call it a deliberate lie, propagated to pursue an agenda. I could reword it, but then it would be deliberately inaccurate. If my memory serves, the Ranger did not report that caches 'could, potentially be buried'. Rather, he reported that he discovered buried caches. Which, incidentally, were not buried by any definition. That lie led to the outrage which caused the ban. On a related note, I absolutely support the 'no digging' guideline.
  17. Good question. Is a 15 minute drive between events qualify as sufficient distance to satisfy the somewhat vague proximity aspect of the event stacking guideline? Or is that too close? If we fall back on the idea that one purpose of the guideline clarification was to discourage the mindless accumulation of smilies at events, then this might best be written up as one, maybe two, CITO events, with multiple additional waypoints? Specifics: (Note: Distance is driving time, as measured by Google Earth) It started with a CITO from 7:00 a.m. till 8:00 a.m. http://coord.info/GC46CHH Then another CITO from 8:30 a.m. till 9:30 a.m. 7.7 miles away, 13 minutes drive time http://coord.info/GC46CH5 Then another CITO from 10:00 a.m. till 11:00 a.m 13.5 miles away, 19 minutes drive time http://coord.info/GC46K77 Then another CITO from 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. 2.6 miles away, 6 minutes drive time http://coord.info/GC46GHH Then a lunch event from 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. 6.6 miles away, 12 minutes drive time http://coord.info/GC46B5A Then another CITO from 2:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. 4.8 miles away, 9 minutes drive time http://coord.info/GC46B1V Then another CITO from 4:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. 10.6 miles away, 15 minutes drive time http://coord.info/GC46BXP Then the final CITO from 5:30 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. 6.2 miles away, 7 minutes drive time http://coord.info/GC46DJH Then a dinner event from 7:00 p.m. to ??? 3.9 miles away, 8 minutes drive time. http://coord.info/GC46B2N
  18. I dunno. I think the description of events Moun10Bike gave us is a textbook definition of mischaracterization and jerking knees. At least it sure seems that way to me. 1 ) FuzzyBear hides a cache which was not buried. 2 ) A land manager pulls the cache. 3 ) Said land manager told TPTB in DC that the caches were buried. (In other words, they mischaracterized the hide technique) 4 ) TPTB decrees a nation wide ban based on this land manager's lie. (Rather than find out what really happened, and decide based on facts) That's not to say I don't fully support the 'no buried caches' guideline. But in this case, Toz nailed it.
  19. I like the comparison between the clarification of the event stacking guideline, and the prohibition against buried caches guideline, specifically as related to comprehension. In both cases, a semantics oriented individual could easily get mired in the minutiae of language. Or, one could simply fall back onto the purpose of the guideline in question. Makes things a lot easier.
  20. A huge "Thank You!" to Brian & ORegiewer for their input. I don't doubt some folks will try pushing the envelope. By clarifying the guideline, the envelope is harder to push.
  21. I am not a fan of fake sprinkler caches, but most of the ones I've found have not violated the "no digging" guideline. They've been held in place by loose landscape bark, or they've been attached to a flat dirt-covered base, or they've been supported some other way that didn't involve digging. I don't do much urban caching anymore, so sprinkler hides are pretty rare for me these days. Of the ones I have found, about half were held into place by landscaping material, and the other half were pushed into the soil, with a bit of mulch around the top edge.
  22. Another thing I'm wondering about. With the Florida Finders Fest events, it could be said that all of them are intended for the same general audience. We've heard from Keystone that, in his territory, one day is not sufficient time for a CITO held at the same location as an event. He interprets "immediately" to include a time frame of 24 hours, in this instance. What about non CITO events? Should the entirety of Florida Finders Fest be put onto one cache page, with a list of the various activities, and which day/time/location each will be? Or maybe 3 event pages, one each for Thursday, Friday & Saturday? Other than the usual noisemakers, who complain about everything, I think the geocaching community would be okay with either interpretation, but we'd like some guidance on which interpretation is prevalent amongst our Reviewers, so we can plan accordingly. It would be inconvenient to type up 9 or 10 event pages, only to have them rejected under the clarified guideline. Personally, I'd like to have this information ahead of time.
  23. You might want to check out this web page: Would 24 hours later really qualify as "immediately"?
  24. Distance would not be the only factor so I couldn't answer this question without knowing specifics. Granted, given the fairly subjective nature of the clarified guidelines, I realize that there is no catch all answer regarding event proximity. I'm just looking for a general idea, before I start typing up event pages. For instance, around the tail end of October, in the Ocala National Forest, there is a four day gathering known as Florida Finders Fest. There is a central site, where cabins are, and where tents can be set up. Typically, there will be a hot dog eat & greet on Thursday afternoon, at the central site Then, Friday morning kicks off with a couple events which occur at about the same time frame, a Jeep run and a kayak paddle. At a guess, I'd say there was about 10-20 miles between these two. Both are about 10 miles from the central site. Around 5:00pm Friday, there is a chili cook off at the central site. Around 9:00pm Friday there is a night gauntlet event / AFDB contest about 3 miles from the central site. These used to be two separate events, but they were combined into one due to the stacking guideline. On Saturday there is the main event, Florida Finders Fest, at the central site. On Sunday there is a CITO of the central site. If this occurred within your Reviewer area, what changes would need to be made?
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