Cache Liberation Front

Hmm, I just tried the link in IE and Firefox 3 on a PC, and even signed out of the site and it worked fine. Hmmmm.... MrW.

Howdy, Southern California Geocachers! The Cache Addicts have just opened nominations for their "First Annual CacheAddicts Best Of Awards." It's a much smaller endeavor than the "Best of SoCal" awards, but we wanted to take a brief moment and share some geolove for those caches and cachers we've appreciated since we formed as a caching organization. Any and all are welcome to participate. I repeat, you do not have to be a Cache Addict to participate in the nomination and subsequent voting process, nor do the nominees have to be Cache Addicts. Please click: http://www.cacheaddicts.org/modules.php?na...ewforum&f=9 for the rules and regulations, as well as to cast your nominations. Best, Mr. Wisearse.

I'm curious if you ever upgraded. I'm using a 770 now and love it, though I mostly use it for reading ebooks and websurfing, not caching. It seems a bit slow and unstable to use for caching. I wonder if the 800 or 810 are faster (boot time, esp.) and more stable for caching. I'm just not sure if the differences between the 800 and 770 are significant enough to upgrade. Thanks for your input, MrW.

A tedious workaround, but still a workaround, is to use your local computer to type out the Chinese characters, screenshot them, save it as an image (.jpg), and post the image on the website. I did this with Russian characters, and it works fine. If you screenshot the characters in OO or Word or whatnot (using a white background), and you carefully add the images to your cache page, it looks just like text. MrW. [edit: eye tip gud]

Why did Krypton not answer either of the emails we sent him or at the very least communicate with a note like the one you posted above to the cache page? In the future we will only add the barest of information to event cache pages. Sad really. Less effort gets rewarded. Maybe we should just hold flash events. Please drive many miles and join us in camp for 15 minutes and then please leave. It's rather sad, but this is what Groundspeak seems to be implying. It seems the superficial, for the number flash mob event that takes zero effort to put together, and that does very little for the reputation of geocachers other than make them appear to be even more mentally deranged, is the wave of the future, and to hell with events which actually try and explore the history and geography of the locales. Number whores 1 Historians 0 Mr. Wisearse. Again...not really even close! You DO understand that you can add your own clickable link which can go straight to an event info page...right? If anything, giving me the reason to do this made my event even MORE personalized and informative!! I'd have never had the reason to set up a sererate site and put in all the great pictures and info which really makes my event seem "professional"...but nope, just a guy given a reason to be creative! Check it out...event page has clickable link near bottom of description! http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...22-bf3e3d390221 I mean...even a blog for Q&A's...WOW! By the standards to which the SoCal'ers event was denied, your event cache should not have been published, either, since the link at the bottom of the description includes links to clearly commerical sites, like http://www.personalgeocoins.com. Thanks for making my point, that there's nothing clear about the event guidelines, and something needs to be changed lest more selective persecution ensues. MrW. Not at all...the site I'm linked to is MY personal site. We in Michigan were fortunate to have been given hands-on guidance in what is allowed. You can link to personal sites which can then mention and give links to businesses like hotels, restaurants and sponsors! I see. So YOUR "personal site" (just what makes a site personal, by the way, are you the CEO of Comcast?) which admittedly contains commercial links is ok, whereas a company site (like DesertUSA) which contains commercial links is not ok. Yeah, the logic behind that is clear as mud. What if the the Socal'er was the owner of the DesertUSA site? Then that'd be his personal site and this would all be for nothing and the cache would be published? Hmmmm. Did anyone care to ask the SoCal'er if DesertUSA was his "personal site"? Clear as mud, I say. MrW. He could have certainly explained that in his appeal. How? None of this information is in the guidelines, and I doubt the OP is psychic. Is this Groundspeak's new and improved set of rules: "Guess what we think and your event, too, can be published!" MrW.

Why did Krypton not answer either of the emails we sent him or at the very least communicate with a note like the one you posted above to the cache page? In the future we will only add the barest of information to event cache pages. Sad really. Less effort gets rewarded. Maybe we should just hold flash events. Please drive many miles and join us in camp for 15 minutes and then please leave. It's rather sad, but this is what Groundspeak seems to be implying. It seems the superficial, for the number flash mob event that takes zero effort to put together, and that does very little for the reputation of geocachers other than make them appear to be even more mentally deranged, is the wave of the future, and to hell with events which actually try and explore the history and geography of the locales. Number whores 1 Historians 0 Mr. Wisearse. Again...not really even close! You DO understand that you can add your own clickable link which can go straight to an event info page...right? If anything, giving me the reason to do this made my event even MORE personalized and informative!! I'd have never had the reason to set up a sererate site and put in all the great pictures and info which really makes my event seem "professional"...but nope, just a guy given a reason to be creative! Check it out...event page has clickable link near bottom of description! http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...22-bf3e3d390221 I mean...even a blog for Q&A's...WOW! By the standards to which the SoCal'ers event was denied, your event cache should not have been published, either, since the link at the bottom of the description includes links to clearly commerical sites, like http://www.personalgeocoins.com. Thanks for making my point, that there's nothing clear about the event guidelines, and something needs to be changed lest more selective persecution ensues. MrW. Not at all...the site I'm linked to is MY personal site. We in Michigan were fortunate to have been given hands-on guidance in what is allowed. You can link to personal sites which can then mention and give links to businesses like hotels, restaurants and sponsors! I see. So YOUR "personal site" (just what makes a site personal, by the way, are you the CEO of Comcast?) which admittedly contains commercial links is ok, whereas a company site (like DesertUSA) which contains commercial links is not ok. Yeah, the logic behind that is clear as mud. What if the the Socal'er was the owner of the DesertUSA site? Then that'd be his personal site and this would all be for nothing and the cache would be published? Hmmmm. Did anyone care to ask the SoCal'er if DesertUSA was his "personal site"? Clear as mud, I say. MrW.

You can't explain it any further because it's rather evident there's no way of rationally explaining what's happening here. Don't worry, I understand. By leaving the rules and guidelines vague and unintelligible, it enpowers a select few with the authority of decision making fueled by pure arbitrariness. Cheers, MrW.

Why did Krypton not answer either of the emails we sent him or at the very least communicate with a note like the one you posted above to the cache page? In the future we will only add the barest of information to event cache pages. Sad really. Less effort gets rewarded. Maybe we should just hold flash events. Please drive many miles and join us in camp for 15 minutes and then please leave. It's rather sad, but this is what Groundspeak seems to be implying. It seems the superficial, for the number flash mob event that takes zero effort to put together, and that does very little for the reputation of geocachers other than make them appear to be even more mentally deranged, is the wave of the future, and to hell with events which actually try and explore the history and geography of the locales. Number whores 1 Historians 0 Mr. Wisearse. Again...not really even close! You DO understand that you can add your own clickable link which can go straight to an event info page...right? If anything, giving me the reason to do this made my event even MORE personalized and informative!! I'd have never had the reason to set up a sererate site and put in all the great pictures and info which really makes my event seem "professional"...but nope, just a guy given a reason to be creative! Check it out...event page has clickable link near bottom of description! http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...22-bf3e3d390221 I mean...even a blog for Q&A's...WOW! By the standards to which the SoCal'ers event was denied, your event cache should not have been published, either, since the link at the bottom of the description includes links to clearly commerical sites, like http://www.personalgeocoins.com. Thanks for making my point, that there's nothing clear about the event guidelines, and something needs to be changed lest more selective persecution ensues. MrW.

I'm sorry, but no. The guidelines are clear about commercial content. I'm confused. The Socal'ers cache contained an informative link to the DesertUSA site, clearly intending for it to be a link to provide further depth and background of the area in which they were gathering for the event (yes, it appears there are some commercial links on that site, but note the Socal'ers didn't link directly to the actual commercial opportunities, but to the information). A reviewer didn't feel comfortable with the link, and instead of simply asking for its removal, he didn't publish the cache. Hmm. Well, what about this cache: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...=y&decrypt= The link on the main page is chock-full of commercial plugs. The link on that cache page has nothing to do with providing historical background of the area in which the cachers are congregating. Yet that got published. How can folks not see the double-standard here, a problem which could easily be solved by simply being more clear in the posting guidelines? When mntn-man writes "The guidelines are clear about commercial content," I think he's being incredibly naive. There's nothing clear here, whatsoever. Just my two copper, Mr. Wisearse. Selective persecution?? A cache was submitted and denied. They were told to contact GS and didn't...where's the persecution?? Where's the confusion? I didn't understand before, and I still don't...the reviewer put his instructions right on the cache page for the owner to see. The owner got an email generated by this note, yet the owner decided NOT to do what he was told...where's the confusion?? Pretty clear to me...and I'm probably the slowest one here! I'm sure that there are plenty of people slower than you, intentionally or not. (Just kidding!!!) to Mr. Wisearse, I don't see how the argument can be made that just because one cache violated the guidelines and slipped through that all caches should be allowed through. That's not my point, sad how you should reduce it to that. My point's rather clear, in that hiding behind this naïveté, thinking that the rules are crystal clear, is clearly unproductive to a healthy and happy geocaching experience. MrW.

Why did Krypton not answer either of the emails we sent him or at the very least communicate with a note like the one you posted above to the cache page? In the future we will only add the barest of information to event cache pages. Sad really. Less effort gets rewarded. Maybe we should just hold flash events. Please drive many miles and join us in camp for 15 minutes and then please leave. It's rather sad, but this is what Groundspeak seems to be implying. It seems the superficial, for the number flash mob event that takes zero effort to put together, and that does very little for the reputation of geocachers other than make them appear to be even more mentally deranged, is the wave of the future, and to hell with events which actually try and explore the history and geography of the locales. Number whores 1 Historians 0 Mr. Wisearse.

I'm sorry, but no. The guidelines are clear about commercial content. I'm confused. The Socal'ers cache contained an informative link to the DesertUSA site, clearly intending for it to be a link to provide further depth and background of the area in which they were gathering for the event (yes, it appears there are some commercial links on that site, but note the Socal'ers didn't link directly to the actual commercial opportunities, but to the information). A reviewer didn't feel comfortable with the link, and instead of simply asking for its removal, he didn't publish the cache. Hmm. Well, what about this cache: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...=y&decrypt= The link on the main page is chock-full of commercial plugs. The link on that cache page has nothing to do with providing historical background of the area in which the cachers are congregating. Yet that got published. Now please note, I completely, 100% agree that geocaching has to be defended from any encroaching commercialization. But having said, using the fear of commercialization as a straw argument or bugbear to hide selective persecution behind is not the solution. How can folks not see the double-standard here, a problem which could easily be solved by simply being more clear in the posting guidelines? When mntn-man writes "The guidelines are clear about commercial content," I think he's being incredibly naive. There's nothing clear here, whatsoever. Just my two copper, Mr. Wisearse.

I used Google Earth to find caches in all CA's 58 counties. Just export the .gpx from GSAK to Google Earth (there are even 1-button macros out there to help automate this). MrW.

We're a group of almost 200 cachers, we have monthly meetings (we're up to 18 monthly meetings w/o a single break, now, click HERE for our last meeting's event page), anyone can join (though we meet monthly in SoCal, we have members from all over America), and we're 100% non-profit. There's no hierarchy of power, no "boards of directors," and we're all equals in our Cache Addiction.

New management.

I agree with the OP. It's incredibly frustrating when someone emails you through the system and you can't just "reply."

Long before Wherigo ever launched, I created a "cart" for downtown, Riverside, CA using the ADRIFT software. It a very traditional text based adventure game, but I very faithfully reconstructed most of downtime in the game: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...39-4985c6cb3122 Anyone want to port my code to a Wherigo cart? Heh. MrW.

We don't have any bluetooth devices to interface with it, we were just considering it as a paperless cache assistant, perhaps a bit more functional than our Zire 72 PDA. It arrives in a few days, can't wait to try it out. I thought I once stumbled upon a "GSAK for Linux" thread somewhere, I'll have to try and dig it back up and then test it on this particular distro. MrW.

Outstanding! Thanks, I'll give this a go. If a 100 cache export is slow, though, I wonder how my normal 500 cache export will load? I know many 770 folks use the eBook reader program (FBReader?). I wonder it would load the .html files faster than the Opera or Mozilla browser.... MrW.

This is SOOO cool, Cachemate ( and a second device ) just became obsolete for me. That right there is what might make me buy one. I love my 60CSx, but being able to leave the PDA at home? That might just make me jump ships. MrW.

Hi all, We just came into a Nokia 770 internet tablet, running a particular Linux distro (Memio or something or other). Has anyone used such a device for their caching? I'm curious if anyone's had any luck running GSAK on it, or maybe a "Cachemate" equivalent. Thanks for any tips or suggestions, MrW.

You and your mother are more than welcome to have strong feelings about any blasted thing you want. I could care less. However, this thread is in the geocaching forum, and it has nothing to do with geocaching. Hence why I'm requesting it simply be moved to the appropriate, designated (read, "Off Topic") forum, so when I'm browsing the "Geocaching Topics" forums I don't have to deal with all this clutter. How is placing this thread in the appropriate forum objectionable? MrW.

On-topic: I served overseas in the diplomatic corp, in Russia for a year, carrying pens and handshakes, not guns. It's a shame only those who work for the govt carrying weapons gets the the holidays and recognition, though. *shrug* I guess playing "army men" as a kid in the sandbox is more fun than playing "diplomacy men." Now having said that, is your "Move thread" button broken? I've seen multiple threads moved into the appropriate forum. And "venerable"? Wow. To paraphrase Hamlet, "Methinks the lady doth protesth too much." MrW.

Hey, mods, since this thread is so off-topic (*checks name of forum* yep, still "Geocaching Topics"), and yet you insist on letting it go on, you mind my creating a new thread in this same forum entitled: "Noodles, and Why We Should Worship Them"? Or how about "Toe Fungi? Surprisingly Tasty!"? Or how about "How The True Founder of the Indian National Congress, A.O. Hume, Was Indeed a Monkey Wrestler"? I'll get to posting them now. Thanks! MrW.

1) Holy cow, what city is that? I'm really tempted to move up there, buy a house in town, and plant a giant cache in my front yard and wait for the cops to come try and take it away. 2) Did the cacher actually get arrested? On what charges? I'd really appreciate it if you could hunt the thread down. Thanks, MrW.

I read the guidelines. Did you not read my post? I'm asking how is it that I'M held to the guidelines in not being able to create events on the tails of other organizations' events, and yet other cachers are not (even IF one was a local city clean-up aka CITO, which even the PTB that posted in this thread admits is an "official cause"...by the way, can I get a list of those "official causes," or do they also come and go as the Powers please?)? It's clearly a double-standard which needs addressing. And the only PTB that have addressed it here have said, "Sorry, we make the rules, and we can break the rules. Do as I say, not as I do." I find that a very shady business model. MrW.