fluffy&itchy

Remember, the only way we will have the PF prefix is if we sell over 1000 of the Phone-A-Friend coins, which is the min. order for the prefix. That will be left up to the folks here that want to buy the coins. If the sales go over 1000 we will get the PF prefix, if not then the coins will fall under the PC prefix. So it's up to y'all.......... Billy, Have the rules changed on the number to be sold for a separate prefix? Tess told me only 500 were needed for a separate icon. Is a separate icon and a separate prefix two totally different things? Did I have the wrong info from the start?

Fluffy and Itchy will be there. Count us in for at least one coin apiece if you decide to mint one for the meeting. Just let us know when and where to show up.

We'll take 3 when they become available.

We would like some of these too when they become available.

It will be rain or shine. To much coordination of the challenges and venues to be able to have a rain-out date. Thanks for your interest

We will try to put people together if they don't have a team. I will try to have a list of people who need team members or can accomodate another person in their car. We will have some clickable links for such things on the cache page as soon as I can figure out how to do such things. My html skills are a bit lacking, but I am try to learn. Thanks for your interest

The GREAT SMOKY MTN GEOQUEST which will be held in and around Knoxville, TN on April 1-2, 2006, has been posted on gc.com GCRMN6 Great Smoky Mtn GeoQuest We are planning a great event. Please pass the word on to your local clubs/ geocachers. Feel free to email me if you have further questions.

The GREAT SMOKY MTN GEOQUEST has been posted on gc.com GCRMN6 Great Smoky Mtn GeoQuest We are planning a great event. Feel free to email me if you have further questions.

The GREAT SMOKY MTN GEOQUEST has been posted on gc.com GCRMN6 Great Smoky Mtn GeoQuest Please feel free to publicize the event on your local club sites. If you have further questions, email me and I will do my best to answer them.

The GREAT SMOKY MTN GEOQUEST is now posted on gc.com GCRMN6 Great Smoky Mtn GeoQuest Please feel free to email me with any further questions you might have.

I would say, preliminarily, kids along would be fine. I originally wanted to limit the number of team members to make it more fair and even for each team. Now that we've structured it so that each team will be collecting points along the route, the amount of people in each car really will be of no consequence. More people won't help your team get more points. So I guess we have inadvertantly leveled the playing field just by the way the quest will be structured. However, when prizes are given out, only 4 prizes per team will be given. That rule will be written in stone. We are funding this event out of our own pockets. I have a small "slush fund" set aside to pay for everything, but it isn't a bottomless pit Thanks for the questions.

No, you can have less than 4, but not more. Event is scheduled for April 1-2, 2006

Hi everyone. It seems this forum thread has not been forwarded to my email for some reason. I will try to check it regularly from now on. I would ask anyone who might be interested, to email me directly with any specific questions you might have. The Official name of this event will be: "Great Smoky Mtn GeoQuest" It will be posted on, or about Jan 1, 2006. Due to gc.com posting regulations, it can not posted more than 90 days from the event date. The dates of the event will be April 1-2, 2006. We will have free tent camping available at the end of the first day. For those who don't want to camp, motels will be available close by. Participation will be limited to 20 teams of 4 team members each. We are promoting this event as a "Quest" not a "Race" due to safety concerns. The way it will be setup, it will not benefit anyone to race through the course. Everything is coming together very nicely. We are even toying with the idea of minting limited edition geocoins for the event. There will be much more info to come. Keep a watch out for the event page to be posted and feel free to email me any questions you might have. As soon as the page is posted, I will come back and post the waypoint here. Thanks to everyone for all the positive responses.

2 coins and 5 pins please

email sent

OMG! Did I happen to offend anyone? Geez, I'm sorry. I wouldn't want anyone to get their fragile feelings tromped on. I guess the next time someone questions my methods, I should just lay down and let them pile on the crap. Yeah, right. And it's supposed to be a Happy Holiday and not a Merry Christmas! NOT! MERRY CHRISYTMAS!!!!!!!

I think we got that the owner said you could. Doesn't mean you have to. Hey if you kept going you could have been #1 cacher in the world, provided your fingers didn't get too tired. Well, no I guess we didn't HAVE TO. However, the owner actually ENCOURAGED US TO DO IT. But as I have THOROUGHLY explained in previouse posts, we did it to make light of a potentially tense situation. THE OWNER WAS ALL FOR IT! No, I don't think I would want the honor of being the world's top geocacher even if I had the finger stamina to post enough logs to do so. She gets flammed too much for just participating. I might have to whack someone if I got accused of all the things she gets flamed for. I have a measly 1200+ REAL, VARIFIABLE FINDS! I am way down on the totem pole when it comes to smiley points. I spend my own time and money finding caches and placing caches for others to enjoy. I'll play the GAME in whatever way I see fit until someone starts paying/re-pembersing me to do so. It's really none of anybody's business. If you guys/gals are purists then please, by all means, play the GAME as you see fit. However, let me remind all of you, purists or not, IT'S A FREAKIN' GAME, PLAYED BY AMATUERS FOR NO FINANCIAL GAIN!! When you get right down to it, there really are no cheaters/log padders, purists or not. Reason being, there is no way to oversee all the people who are geocaching. I know plenty of people who are in the top number finds lists that have posted "found" logs to caches I know for a fact they have never even seen. But I'm not the geo-police and I could care less what they do and how they do it. This is supposed to be a fun, entertining GAME that gets people off the couch and out into nature. I have more caches to find. I'm not interested in wasting my time being the geo-police

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That's because you didn't try. I'm pretty sure that you CAN edit, delete, and change the log type of logs on locked caches. I just tried it to confirm that this is the case. You just can't post any new ones. And why post a big pile of found logs in the first place when a single DNF, note, or SBA would have been more appropriate and better info for the next person? I don't get it. First of all, thank you for educating me as to how to get the smilies changed to notes. I tried to go in and change them before and it kept telling me I couldn't post anything since the cache was locked. Evidently I was punching the wrong button. I answer to you question about "why post that many finds and not just a dnf or sba"... Obviuosly you didn't read my explaination completely. WE LOGGED THE MULTIPLE FINDS BECAUSE THE OWNER SAID WE COULD AND BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A WAY TO MAKE LIGHT OF US ALMOST HAVING THE SPEND THE NIGHT IN JAIL!!! WHAT PART OF THAT DOES EVERYONE NOT GET??? All of the "founds" have been changed to notes EXCEPT 1. You grumpy grouch geo-police are not going to ruin all my fun. If you don't like the 1 find I logged WITH THE OWNERS PERMISSION, then you can just lump it. I have better things to do than to cow-tow to a bunch of busy bodies that seem to have nothing better to do than throw off on others who are just having a little fun. The people on these forums need to spend more time caching and less time trying to policeforce policy on players in a GAME that is all done during one's own free time and with NO FINANCIAL GAIN. Jeez, get out in the woods and walk off some of that puffed up steam that seems to permeate these forums.

I think this clearly answers the question put in this thread. Apparently having lots of finds makes you a "leader." Fizzy, you too can make this list. Here's how. That partially explains how CCCooperAgency has 12000 finds, considering she logged 15 of them on that single cache. Reprehensible behaviour, imo. That certainly doesn't make her a "leader" (of any kind) in our recreational activity. OK, I've sat back long enough and watched threads pertaining to the multiple smiley posting of the "Homework" cache in Bristol,VA I try to refrain from posting anything in the forums because it always turns into a flame-fest. But it seems I haven't learned my lesson, so here goes... I was the other person with CCCooper when the now famous (or should I say infamous) incident happened at the afore mentioned cache. I was the one who got my license run for warrants, my car run to see if it was stolen, was told I was a liar, was told I was trespassing, and that geocaching was a scam, and I would be arrested if I tried to take anything. CCCA stayed in the car, as I ASKED HER TO. I asked her to let me handle the situation since I have a law enforcement background and thought I could difuse the situation and we could be on our way. After explaining extensively that I never intended to take anything and trying to explain geocaching for the umpteenth time, I finally just got fed up and told the cops/rent-a-cop that they either needed to arrest us or let us be on our way. I had tried in vain to explain why we were there. Gave them a brochure that explained geocaching, showed them the cache page on my laptop, showed them our GPSr's. I offered to take them back to where the cache was and show it to them. They wouldn't go and accused me again of trying to steal something from the property. I offered to tell them where the cache was and they could go get it themselves. They said no. Nothing was working. We also tried to get in touch with the cache owner but could only get voicemail. I might add that at no time during our detainment did either side ever get upset or irrate. Everything was talked about in a professional manner on both sides. No voices were raised. It was just that they kept telling us we were liars and insisting we were there under false pretenses. They finally let us go and told us to never come back there again. I assured them Bristol, VA was the farthest place I would ever want to be again. The next night, the cache owner finally called me and said they had just gotten my voicemail from the night before. They appologized for us having been detained and explained the they new a sargeant on the Bristol, VA police force who was a geocacher. If we had been able to get in touch with them the night before, we could have gotten the officers to call the sergeant and things may have gone differently, but they didn't so that was that. The cache owner also told me the local cops had been educated about geocaching but the seemed to conviently forget sometimes. We chalked it up to another caching adventure and went on about our caching business. As we were talking to the cache owner, he said, because we had had so much trouble being stopped and question on this one, we could log the cache as many times as we wanted too. We said we should log it 1 time for each stage of the incident. The cache owner agreed and we had a good laugh about it. When we logged in on the cache page, we both (CCCA and I) set out to log a smiley for every step of the incident that happened that night in a way as to tell the story of what happened. The multiple logs were supposed to be all in good fun and it was done with the COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE OF THE CACHE OWNER! (and the reviewer after we told him the cache owner said we could) Then a local cacher went into the cache page and started posting notes and making fun of the multiple logs. That's when the reviewer locked the cache. We fully intended to go back later and make all the "finds" into "notes" after everyone around here had gotten a laugh out of it. Now that the cache is locked, we can not get back in to change the logs. With all that said, this is just another example of some not knowing the whole story about an incident, and then making suppositions about what the truth was. For all you CCCA bashers out there, shame on you. She works very hard at the sport of caching. She not only is good at finding but she gives back to the sport by placing hides, sponsoring events, and she spends countless hours helping other geocachers when they ask for help. I don't think I have ever met a more selfless person when it come to helping others in this game. She caches nearly everyday. That is how she has gotten the number of finds she has. Anyone who knows her, knows this. Caching is her obsession and she's good at it. Lastly, (and I'm sure you are all glad of that) I would just challenge all of you to make sure you have all your facts straight before you start flaming people and accusing them of things not in evidence, for doing something you have no first hand knowledge about. Bottom line is, the extra logs were supposed to be a joke, all done in good fun, to make light of what could have potenially been a very unwelcome night in jail. AND IT WAS DONE WITH THE CACHE OWNERS PERMISSION! Let the flames begin.......

I'll take 4 of whatever metal you come up with. Especially would like oneof the "unnamed" ones )

We are planning an East TN version of the Amazing Race to be held April 1-2, 2006. The Event will be more of a "Quest" than it will be a race, due to some concerns some people have had over the safety of an event involving geocachers racing in cars. This will be a 2 day event with a mandetory reststop at the end of the first day. There will be about 80 caches on the total route. Camping will be available at the rest stop or motels are nearby for those who don't camp. The individual caches will be asigned points. Whoever has the most points at the end of the event will win some cool prizes. There will be a time limit but there will be no need to "race" to find the caches. Everyone should be able to find them in the allotted time. There will be some challenges that a team will have to perform in order to move on, and a few more surprises thrown in to spice things up. There will be divisions for beginners, intermediate , and experienced cachers to make the playing field a little more even. Teams will be limited to 4 people per team/vehicle. No radar detectors will be allowed. The start of the event will be in Knoxville and wind through the hills of E. TN. We are still working on all the other specifics. Check back later for updates. Feel free to post this on any of your local event forums.

We are planning an East TN version of the Amazing Race to be held April 1-2, 2006. The Event will be more of a "Quest" than it will be a race, due to some concerns some people have had over the safety of an event involving geocachers racing in cars. This will be a 2 day event with a mandetory reststop at the end of the first day. There will be about 80 caches on the total route. Camping will be available at the rest stop or motels are nearby for those who don't camp. The individual caches will be asigned points. Whoever has the most points at the end of the event will win some cool prizes. There will be a time limit but there will be no need to "race" to find the caches. Everyone should be able to find them in the allotted time. There will be some challenges that a team will have to perform in order to move on, and a few more surprises thrown in to spice things up. There will be divisions for beginners, intermediate , and experienced cachers to make the playing field a little more even. Teams will be limited to 4 people per team/vehicle. No radar detectors will be allowed. The start of the event will be in Knoxville and wind through the hills of E. TN. We are still working on all the other specifics. Check back later for updates. Feel free to post this on any of your local event forums.

We are planning an East TN version of the Amazing Race to be held April 1-2, 2006. The Event will be more of a "Quest" than it will be a race, due to some concerns some people have had over the safety of an event involving geocachers racing in cars. This will be a 2 day event with a mandetory reststop at the end of the first day. There will be about 80 caches on the total route. Camping will be available at the rest stop or motels are nearby for those who don't camp. The individual caches will be asigned points. Whoever has the most points at the end of the event will win some cool prizes. There will be a time limit but there will be no need to "race" to find the caches. Everyone should be able to find them in the allotted time. There will be some challenges that a team will have to perform in order to move on, and a few more surprises thrown in to spice things up. There will be divisions for beginners, intermediate , and experienced cachers to make the playing field a little more even. Teams will be limited to 4 people per team/vehicle. No radar detectors will be allowed. The start of the event will be in Knoxville and wind through the hills of E. TN. We are still working on all the other specifics. Check back later for updates. Feel free to post this on any of your local event forums.

We travel in our RV all the time and would love to participate in what you guys and gals have been talking about. We cache as much as we can on the road, but like all the rest of you, those tight spots can get a little aggravating. I just hate it when I have to unhook my dinghy car because I couldn't make that turn I thought was big enough. We have done almost all of the caches in rest stops and welcome centers along: I-75 from Atlanta to northern Ohio, I-71 from Cinti to Indy, I-81 from TN to PA I-95 from SC to Jacksonville, I-40 from Jackson, TN to Ashville, NC I-65 from Indy to TN line I-26 from Asheville, NC to where it runs into I-95 I-64 from Front Royal to DC I may have missed a few but those are the general ones I remember. We hope to do some on I-40 out past Jackson, TN all the way to TX on our way to Geowoodstock 4. We have already made our resevations at the campground where GW4 is being held and we are going to try to amke it at least a 10 day trip. NOTE TO MY NEIGHBOR, TEAM ZEBRA: We have been using a Nextel PCMCIA wireless card for the past 2 months. It works pretty well. The speed varies but most of the time I can surf the net in the RV while we are moving down the highway with no problem. Most of the time the speed is faster than dail-up but slower that broadband unless you are in a larger city. It's really not been too much of a problem except if we want to upload pictures. The cost is $69.95 for unlimited internet usage and $150.00 one time fee for the card. Sometimes they have specials and you can get the card cheaper though. The coverage is getting better and with the merger of Sprint and Nextel, it should be getting even better as the days go by. Keep us updated on the progress.