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This. There's really nothing more to be said.

You mean TFTC, right?

Yes, Bear on the Loose! Brings you to a nice spot in the park and, for my money, one of the best examples of what a letterbox hybrid SHOULD be!

Since you started the same year I did, you know that this has been going on forever. Most people never respond when you delete their log, but I've gotten a few of the "spoiled my fun" logs. I like to wear a special hat when I go out to spoil someones fun. I also like to give awards for the most ridiculous bogus "found it" logs. My two all time favorites are: 1)"Couldn't log a DNF because it wasn't there to be found!" 2)"If it had been there I would have found it, so I'm claiming a find" (A Central Park cache that was found several times over the next few days, including by me.) Sometimes I'm tempted to write, "I saw where *I* would have placed it, so I'm claiming a find."

I know the answer to "Where have all the ammo cans gone?" NEW JERSEY. And briansnat is responsible for a bunch of them. For real, when I want to spend a day hiking and finding good hides in interesting places, I head for one of the huge parks in NJ. And I think I've still got a couple of years worth of finds left there...

Have you been paying attention? Don't do it "soon." Start your listing now, just don't hit the "ready to submit" button. That DOES lock the space up until you place the cache or the reviewer thinks you've taken too long. Here's a tip that some people won't like but you might consider it: Also open listings about 600 feet on either side of the cache you're going to place. Then after a month or so you can de-list them. That will at least give you a short period of the exclusive listing you are looking for. I personally wish they had kept the anti-power trail rules, but I've given up fighting it. There's nothing uglier to me than the green slime trails on the maps in many places. And I certainly understand your concern about your one good cache in the middle of someone's idea of a "power trail." There's nothing sadder than when your good cache gets mass logged with 169 others without any acknowledgement.

I have never understood why anyone would want to do this. Originally, the idea of a TB was to log it out of a cache you found it in and then log it into a cache you left it in. The relatively new practice of "visiting" a TB in every... freekin'... cache you find has ruined the fun of trying to follow the path of caches a TB has actually been in. Unfortunately there IS a way to "dip" every TB in your possession into every cache you find, but I'm not going to tell you how. Because, really, WHO CARES? Just enjoy the TB for a brief time and then leave it for someone else to find.

here's another variation: someone picked up a nice geocoin of mine and now just lets people "discover" it at events, as if it belongs to them. another one picked up one of my bugs and actually wrote, "I promise to keep it safe and see that it visits a lot of caches." I'm about to de-activate them both so that they can't be logged anymore

Welcome to the wonderful and confusing world of Long Island geocaching! The debate about whether this was national seashore or county parks land was already raging when I started caching in 2004. After awhile everyone just gave up trying to place caches there. The JMB cache you mentioned was there before the current determination was made. However, things can change! In Rocky Point Conservation Area up the road, caches were first allowed, then disallowed for a couple of years, and then allowed again! I had a lengthy discussion with reviewers about another area that they thought were on Grumman property but which had been given to Suffolk County. There are other local examples of successes in getting specific areas approved after being off limits. So my message is... Don't give up! You just might get someone to change the ruling! (Oh yeah, and thanks for finding my caches )

Those are so cool! I would love finding something like that. I have no ideas, though. The best I could do would be to copy your ingenious creations in my area. Mostly I'll just keep hiding ammo cans under piles of sticks in the woods...

I usually ignore these discussions, but this is so unfair and inaccurate that I had to respond. String caches (I like that term better!) are actually harmful to the game as some of us knew it. Ignoring them does not make the ugly green slime on the maps go away. I am embarrassed to introduce anyone to geocaching anymore because I have to answer the inevitable questions about why people would do this... ***There is no "power" in power trails***

Germy stuff in the woods doesn't bother me much. I've been sick maybe two or three times in the last 10 years for maybe a day or two at a time, so it's hard for me to take it too seriously. I often eat lunch in my truck after a morning of caching. I wipe my hands off real good before eating and then try not to lick my fingers. But really, how can you not lick your fingers after Popeye's fried chicken?

At the very end I was looking for a box to check to say I agree with beer.

It's a type of battery, right?

In 11 years of caching I've only been approached by hostile muggles maybe twice. Once I got locked behind a gate that I thought was a side entrance to a county park but turned out to be private property. Had to call 911 and the cops located the owner, who came down and yelled at me as he opened the gate. The impressive thing was, The cops came about 20 minutes before the property owner and they never once asked me what I was doing there. In fact. in about a dozen different LEO encounters in several different states, the officers have ALWAYS been polite and professional, most of the time just making sure I was OK (parked off road somewhere in the wilderness,)

They don't care. They are not the least bit embarrassed about logging caches they haven't found. I've known of people traveling with a group who don't even get out of the car and then log all the caches under their individual account.

It's never reasonable to replace or remove a cache without the owner's permission. Never is strong. But I should have added that I would (attempt to) contact the owner, and indicate that I removed the throwdown cache if he wants it. He should be getting the emails generated from the logging and have some idea what is going on, so I think he knows that he should check on things. But removing the duplicate is making the game better for the next cacher that comes along, in case the owner doesn't get out immediately (or at all). Having it archived so nobody wastes their time searching for unmaintained garbage makes the game better. I think I agree with you, but wait, are you advocating having it archived WITHOUT removing it? If the owner really hasn't been active in some time, I'd trash out both the broken container and the cheesy throwdown and post the NA note and feel like I'd done my good deed for the day...

I've used just about all of the above, plus this: If I have a geocoin or particularly nice travelbug to place. I'll look for a PMO cache big enough to hold it and use that as a starting point. I try not to leave travelers in regular caches anymore to try to avoid intro app users from taking them.

Best thing to do might be to find a public library or a motel with computer access and do it the old school way.

Well, all I can tell you is, I DO spray when I get out of the truck just before heading into the woods. I don't think I've ever seen a tick on me when I do that, and I cache in an area where ticks seem to be waiting on every blade of grass... I didn't say that using it wet wouldn't work against ticks. I'm more concerned with what it is doing to you. I would strongly encourage you to read and follow the instructions. OK, I did go and read all the instructions and research and discovered that, yes, I was doing it wrong. Thanks for the headsup. I was kind of surprised, though, that everything I've read indicates that results of exposure or skin contact are not really that terrible. Not saying it's OK, just that if it were between risking some incidental skin contact or even inhalation and being unprotected, I'd still choose spraying.

Well, all I can tell you is, I DO spray when I get out of the truck just before heading into the woods. I don't think I've ever seen a tick on me when I do that, and I cache in an area where ticks seem to be waiting on every blade of grass...

They certainly meet the highest "fun" standards. This series gave me the best urban caching day I've ever had. I was literally laughing out loud as a cache popped up in the middle of a busy coffee shop and no one even raised an eyebrow. Amazing what can be done when the neighborhood is supportive. but that's a topic of its own... edit to add... a milestone post! glad it was on a positive note!

Yep. I've learned the hard way that permethrin doesn't work so well when I just leave the can in the truck instead of actually spraying. Some folks around here virtually stop caching in the woods for the summer. I've got some caches that have been out for months with only one or two finders. I have always just sprayed clothes, boots, hat, pack and car seat just as I'm heading out. That professional treating idea looks interesting though...

I've been caching since 2004 and I started using the MC with no trauma or drama as soon as it appeared. I never commented on the original thread expressing the pain and horror caused by this feature, or on this one (until now) because the arguments seemed trivial and silly. I suspect there are a lot more folks out there who feel the same way. People who dislike a feature are always more verbal than those who either like it or are indifferent.

I vote no (again). Want to hide a geocache? Do something creative.