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The Bongtwashes

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  1. The cache idea in London Zoo, was rejected after discussion by the UK Reviewers, because the entry fee, is well above the Guidance given by Groundspeak to "All" Reviewers. If you would care to look, you'd find the cheapest Adult entry is £23.

     

    If either of the posters, above my post, have a issue, please take them directly to Groundspeak. And let they make a decision!

     

    Deci

    Of course a cache wouldn't be allowed in London Zoo as it is in Regent's Park, and caches aren't allowed in Royal Parks, but that's another story.

  2. Well done to you.

    Well thanks.

    Well done to you too.

    Well thanks.

    And well done to you..etc etc.

    YAWN!

     

    Why not post/move this to the Congratulations Thread to avoid this tedious backslapping amongst the usual gang on this forum.

    YAWN

    This takes me back a few years to when there was a regular new thread complaining of the number of congratulations threads, and the single pinned Congratulations Thread was started, which was never as interesting as the individual threads. IMO that's when this forum started going downhill and regional forums and Facebook became more interesting.

     

    So...

     

    CONGRATULATIONS ESSCAFE (and DRSOLLY)

     

    HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    If the hider thinks this is a nice place for a cache I hope he is sufficiently cheesed off that he finds another hobby.

     

    Philip

     

    Really Philip? You couldn't, y'know, just give his cache a miss? You'd much prefer that someone, who you don't know, gives up a hobby because the way they play it doesn't meet with the way you want to play it?

     

    I've seen caches that I didn't want to go and find before. Do you know how I overcame this 'massive' problem? - I decided to ignore it and went and found a cache that I did want to find.

     

    It doesn't stop at one though does it.

     

    Someone will come along and find it, think hey that's a new kind of hide lets start a new series, then they are popping up everywhere.

     

    Someone else comes along and wonders how to up the ante. Caches start appearing hanging from power lines (hey it's safe if you've got the right equipment and training isn't it?).

     

    Someone else places a cache on the Northern line half way between Tottenham Court Road and Leicester square underground stations mag attached to the bottom of the electrified rail.

     

    The reviewer was right here to say NO. The cache owner needs to reconsider. Plenty of places to hide a Cache either side of the road and out of harms way.

     

    Philip

     

    But it is not unique is it? As has been shown if you cared to read all the thread, there are two other examples given, and probably several more which have also been published.

     

    As for your other examples, it is ridiculous just to mention them. Not only is it illegal to actually go there (unless you are qualified, trained, and an employee or contractor of the appropriate company) you would also be electrocuted unless the company had isolated the appropriate section, and therefore you wouldn't be able to submit the cache page for review.

  4. Good god -

     

    I didn't think that this would be the thread my first post ended up being in, but the idea that a cache would be put smack in the middle of an interstate is just poor judgement on the part of the cache owner, no matter how much due warning they give the geocachers. I am in agreement that the reviewer did the proper thing by disabling it.

     

    This isn't an interstate, it's a British trunk road. It has different regulations governing it. In my opinion it cannot be compared to the interstate highways I've driven on.

     

    I’m sorry but I remain completely unmoved by any of the Pro-placement posts I have read.

     

    Imagine if you will -

    You haven't heard of Geocaching and have no idea that such a hobby exists.

    You are driving down this road minding your own business.

    Please be completely honest here.... would you or would you not engage in a certain amount of 'rubber-necking' from your car window if you saw a person/persons bending/stooping/feeling/crouching around the central barrier of this road?

    I’m reasonably confident that the honest answer for most people would be ‘yes’.

    The possible fallout from this action has already been mentioned countless times so I won’t sport with your patience.

     

    My answer would be no. I would not be surprised to see pedestrians where I have already been warned that there might be pedestrians. If I saw them bend down etc. I would assume that they had dropped something and then...well by then they would be in my rear view mirror and beyond my concern. Mind you, I am one of those (few?) people who tends not to try to see what is happening on the opposite carriageway, I prefer to see what is happening on my carriageway, and avoiding the rubberneckers. Perhaps you take to great an interest in what is happening elsewhere? (Please be completely honest here)

     

     

    Are we still talking about this?

     

    Edit: if we're being technical, a cache in the central reservation is adjacent to twice as much 70mph-speed-limited dual carriageway as one placed at the edge, so it's at least twice as risky.

    I disagree. The pedestrian in the central reserve has a barrier between him and the traffic in each direction. The pedestrian at the edge of the road is probably not behind any barrier, and is therefore more of a risk.

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    This is a very useful angle. Look how narrow the central median is. Look how close the traffic is to people in this area. See how distracting it could be for a motorist to see someone searching for something in this area.

    Strange, I wouldn't say it was that narrow, quite wide considering it's just a footpath. Also, considering the signs warning of pedestrian crossings, it just shows how visible people in the central reserve would be to approaching motorists.

     

    It isn't 'just a footpath' though. It's also the central reservation of a dual carriageway.

    The fact that cachers looking for a cache in the central reservation are so visible actually adds to the danger by being the distraction to the motorists.

     

    It would appear that it does not have permission from the correct authority (I assume the Highways agency) to be there so the cache should not be there.

     

    The reviewer has suggested that the cache can be placed away from the carriageway which will still allow any visitors to the cache to walk over to the central reservation of their own volition if this is the experience they wish to achieve.

     

    As I said...A footpath, which has double thickness barriers either side, providing a refuge within the central reserve. Remember, the footpath was there first, that is why it is still there.

    You've totally lost me saying "The fact that cachers looking for a cache in the central reservation are so visible actually adds to the danger". It is obvious that those people who want this cache archived cannot form a coherent arguement between them. You obviously want pedestrians to be visible, but not visible. This is a pedestrian refuge, which means it is where pedestrians are allowed / supposed to be, and motorists are warned of their possible presence.

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    This is a very useful angle. Look how narrow the central median is. Look how close the traffic is to people in this area. See how distracting it could be for a motorist to see someone searching for something in this area.

    Strange, I wouldn't say it was that narrow, quite wide considering it's just a footpath. Also, considering the signs warning of pedestrian crossings, it just shows how visible people in the central reserve would be to approaching motorists.

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    I can’t comment on this cache personally but from what I have read, its redeeming features are:

    Smelly.

    Dirty.

    Lots of rubbish.

    Dangerous to get to/from.

     

    So, aside from the fact that it isn’t as hazardous to access as some other caches, please can Bozoid tell me why this is a good cache?

    As you say, you can't comment on it personally. When I went to find it it was none of those, but then I approached and left from the opposite direction to those who complained.

    Interestingly, of all those who decided it was dangerous, only raggled robin decided not to try to find it :unsure:

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    If the cache is on a public footpath, you should use that path to approach the cache since that is the safest way. Also, point one of the green cross code is "THINK! Find the safest place to cross, then stop." A road like this obviously isn't the safest place to cross if you have a viaduct nearby.

     

    In the end, the reviewer applies the rules and you have to convince them to get your cache approved.

    Not much fun, but it's the way it is. Try to find a compromise.

    The cache is on a public footpath, the footpath crosses the road at this point, hence the pedestrian route through the central barrier and the footpath signs at the top of the embankment each side of the road (not visible on Streetview, but they are there). In my opinion, if someone can be taught to use a GPS and a computer then they can be taught to cross a road safely, and if they can not, then they should be supervised by someone who can. I was taught to cross roads safely when I first went to school, and have been doing so for well over 50 years!

  9. Do you hang toilet paper so the next sheet hangs against the wall too?

     

    Argh! My Missus intentionally does it that way and insists it's the right way! It drives me nuts! lol

    Why would any sane person hang it any other way? It's more likely to tear along the perforations that way.

  10. In 'the good old days' when micros were rare and nanos almost non existant, it used to be common practice to write a decent screed in the log book, as well as online. Sadly this is not now possible unless you are able to write the first five chapters of Genesis on a pin head.

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