Mn-treker

The work around didn't work for me in Chrome. I used it to load just a few caches quickly. I guess I'll go to Pocket Queries or everything. Delorme did not cause the change the we used to use to install PQs into the Delorme GPS. An update ant Groundspeak caused the issue and won't let a remote login from TOPO from Delorme. Nor will they allow upload from the PQ page to TOPO software. My way around that is to drag and drop the PQ into the waypoints forlder in the GPS unit. Then if I want a copy in my TOPO software I do a sync and upload it that way. Just remember whatever is in the TOPO will rule over the GPS file. So if you want to sync later and have new info on the GPS but the file name is the same then the TOPO will overwrite the GPS.

Yes Delorme does have a plugin. You find it from the geocaching website. Click send to GPS, if you do not have that plugin installed the pop up will tell you so. Just click on the download button and it will take you to the correct page at Delorme to install it. there used to be problems wit it and IE 11 but mine seems to work just fine. The plugin does have a bug that will never be fixed though. The Delorme units do not like send to GPS while certain symbols are in the geocache name or text whithin the description. A hexadecimal 1A issue pops up and may cause those files to wipe out most of your geocache files in the unit. Delorme sorts by name not GC number. So all bellow that name get deleted. It has happened to me a few times. Running a PQ does not have this issue. Drag and drop from your e-mail into the waypoints folder solves it.

It looks like we need to have a rule about the placement of power trails. Maybe only on forest roads, bike, hike paths. None on public roads or housing communities. I know this wont go over very well. I have seen some very questionable placements. I know one CO attacked by home owner dressed in military outfit. He did not like that thing in the sign in front of his house. The sign was along a public road with public sidewalk. Absolute public easement. The kind of hide that pisses off the people that live there. He archived the hide. That was an example of just because he could, he should not have. Lets all stop and think for a bit before making a hide. Another example fire hydrant hides here are not allowed. Bad idea to hide there Fire dept. Gets pissed when they find them if they need to use it. They wind up calling bomb squad.

You will be sending geocache info from the site to your unit. Send to GPS or do a pocket query. You should find the geocache file in your unit or see them on the map page. Select one and tell your unit to route to it. Follow the trail and go find it. Explore your unit to learn its functions, you should have a manual. Also you will need a computer to connect the GPS unit to, to send data to it. Not the phone.

It doesn't take too many times of some idiot cutting a fence, driving through a crop, driving on a private lane (especially when muddy), shooting up equipment, leaving trash everywhere, theft, and just disrespecting private property in general to make people hyper sensitive to what strangers are doing in the area. The land should be treated like gold, have your tried to buy any? If you come to a gate that is closed you close it after you go through, private or public land. It is there for a reason. How would you like to have to drive the cattle (that are not always visible from the gate) back to where they belong each time someone who doesn't know better goes through. The land owners (who act like two year olds) could just as easily be saying folks from the city sure have a huge sense of entitlement to what I bought and paid for, and continue to pay property tax on. It may not be geocachers who caused the problem, but I certainly understand their concerns. Thank you. I agree. As I said in another post, some of that land has been in the family for generations. The land is a family heirloom, essentially, and they feel very protective of it. To call then "two year olds" because of that is pretty callous, at best. To them, you are an outsider, and they have a natural disdain for outsiders... and that disdain goes a long way back. You are on their property, whether it is legally theirs or not. Before I began geocaching, I went on two Elk hunts out there. During one I went into town for supplies. At one point a local started to follow me around. He then tried to cut me off in a parking lot. His goal to bitch at me for being in his state. Very stupid of him since I was packing 9 mm on my hip. Another time I went fishing in the rivers and found that if I were to accidently step on the river bbottom on the wrong side of the river I could be assaulted by the land owner that owned the dry land. In that state you may not even touch the river bottom with a paddle. People have been assulted at gun point while canoeing a river. The water is public but the bottom is not. So I stand by my statement 2 year olds. Some have even went after people on BLM lands. But a very big issue here, I have said it before. Check your easement laws before you hid along a road. Just because you see a ditch easement does not mean you get to use it. I own land along a road. I own the land on both sides and the land the road is on. Township owns the easement. Trespass off the road not allowed. Not all easement laws are the same. You need to check first. I have posted in the MNGCA forums a clip from Minnesota hunting book. It tells about our different rules depending on where in the state you are. As also said before just because you can hide does not mean you should.

The main problem is with the people of Colorado. The land is treated as GOLD, trespassers will be shot! In that state you may not even stand in a river that flows through property. Some roads do travel through private property. You may find a gate across the road, hey it is a public road. Almost but not quite some roads are gated and you may only drive through after closing the gat behind you. some roads go through private property, no gate. You may not stop at all. I have read of people getting arrested at gun point while fishing in public waters on private land. In general the land owners are like little two year olds out there. I have said that to the Colorado DNR.

Firstly, most people will rent a car to do a PT. Secondly doing a power trail is the most environmentally friendly way of caching if you look at impact/cache found. Oh, OK. That's MUCH better now. Ingenious, dividing your carbon footprint by the number of caches you've found! Makes one feel very environmentally conscious! Unless you're dead you are damaging the enviroment to some level or another so unless you are dead please don't criticize the impact I have. Yes... but the LEVEL is what is important. Sorry, but I can't support your rationalizing gas use per cache in an environmentally responsible sense. If you're gonna burn a bunch of gas, just admit it. Don't cushion it in a "per cache found" divisor... geeze. Who do you think you're kidding? awesome, you found a new angle at knocking power trails, news alert, driving around all day in your neighborhood caching consumes the same amount of gas as driving all day on a power trail. Naw... thanks for the compliment. And you are essentially correct. Aside from the stop and go effect of a power trail, driving all day is driving all day. But you were rationalizing about caches per mile (or caches per gallon, or whatever). That is what I am addressing. Maybe we should ban all major events like geowoodstock too, thousands of people travel for long distances to get to them, the environmental impact of that travel and then the area they spend a few days caching must be devastating. Let's cut out the hypocrisy and just ban geocaching. Or maybe we can just stop being silly and enjoy. I don't totally disagree with your suggestion. We talk a good line with CITO, but is it really worth anything when we drive all over the countryside to increment a number, when we burn thousands of dollars worth of gas (aggregate) to attend an event, mostly because it gets us a special digital icon? You have made some surprisingly good points there. Thank you! we have to take it further, sex needs to be outlawed, no new people = less environmental impact. Personally I'll pass on all this environmental stuff and enjoy my life. Power trail + bike = high numbers. My geomobile gets 12.5 MPG I park it and bike one way then the other. Then move and repeat unless I am in the State forests. Then kick in the 4 wheel drive and go for it. Do some hiking and caching. Sometimes I even run into Fish2007 and Khoda deep in the woods far from home. While I am on the FTF trail. I do not think about the gas thing. It will get used anyway.

I have seen some put a cache on a watch list when it gets an NA placed on the log. They watch for the archive then jump on it. Just watch out that NA may be for a very good reason. A replacement may not be allowed. Possible trespass or some other issue with that spot. I know of a few that will get archived that the spot will be dead.

I am reminded of GC29HTR... HA HA now you make me want to go make a geocache with that as the name. Cute!!

I'm gona go find some Knowschad hides. Sign the log GRUNT, UGH, PHTTTT, AHHH!

The reviewers find out about city policies only when we find out about it and tell them. Haven't you heard the rule, ignorance of the law is no excuse. We who hide geocache need to find out if there is a law regarding it in the area that we hide. Sometimes the reviewers know because it popped up and they were informed. The city is not required to tell us that a law exists. Best thing to do is not assume, but to verify.

Actually they can require permission in all places in the city. You are placing a private piece of property in a spot that does not belong to you. There is a city here that does that.

Worse than a chainsaw, even? Certainly seems off the topic... But... We have a problem with Hemlock woolly adelgid around here. Introduced through the Port of Charleston in 1951. Native to eastern Asia. It kills the eastern hemlock and Carolina hemlock. In Japan it is kept under control by the Japanese black ladybug. Not sure how this compares to people climbing trees, or why this subject was brought up, being off-topic. But HWA has killed far more trees than all the people climbing trees. Support ISPM-15 which requires heat-treatment of all wood used exporting/exporting freight to/from overseas. What brought it up is that some people think that we are spreading tree disease and killing trees, by climbing them. Sort of like the time that I got an FTF way up the Gunflint trail. I found that a muggle had found it first. They left a nasty note about this garbage in nature. That person was an environmental whack job. Humans are the enemy as far as they are concerned.

Was it people or critter? Or was it nature? I have lost containers to all of the above. What do you do? Just deal with it and move on. Choose a different type and location,

You are so very right, no need to break a tree to find a cache. What will help is absolutely no micros in pine trees. I have had to call for an archive due to a pine tree getting hit hard by people looking for that darn DNA tube. The chainsaw is on my property, I live in a nice wooded spot. I need to take some out due to crowding and death. I have three types of Oak and Pines. As well as others, a nice variety in my little forest.

So are they the Teenage Mutant Ninja Girls? ; )

Because nature sometimes kills trees, humans can't kill trees? Well of course we can. Put a chain saw in my hand and I take a few down. Did people cause the pine beetle problem in Colorado? No they pop up real bad about every 100 years or so. Can I spread Oak wilt? Sure but animals do it better. It is recomended not to do any pruning of Oaks at this time of year. The Oak wilt will kill them. SOD only means sudden Oak death. They do not tell you why. I would bet it is Oak wilt in a broken Oak. That is what will kill them here that quickly. The fungus enters the wound and spreads fast. Here in Minnesota we have much experience with it. Also have ways to prevent it. Or to slow it's spread. You will find that while pathogens like this and others like the Elm Leaf Beetle are primarily spread locally by animal vectors or the wind WE cause the greatest damage. Animal vectors provide for short distance spread but WE get mud on our boots and cars then drive 200k to an area which is currently unaffected. Don't get cocky, WE are the main problem with many environmental issues as we have the ability to, and do, put things out of their natural balance. Man is a part of the environment, just as any animal. All spread any kind of so called alian species. We have water bodies that man does not use, infected with eurasian milfoil and zebra muscles. Only way to do that is Ducks and Geese. After they were brought in ballast of ships. Deer ticks where they never were, vector is birds to spread them that far. Muddy tires? man has had the wheel for a long long time. Did man start Oak wilt? NO! it has always been here. But as with all in nature man has helped. We prevent fires, this is what controled a lot of pathogens in nature. They got burned out. Only now are we learning that we need to do controlled burns. Yes we do need to be carefull, But man is not the enemy that some wack jobs like to make out. Climb a tree! more animals do that than man. Do we hurt them? NO! unless you break a big live branch. But you would have to weigh what that bear did that climbed one of mine and broke off the top 20 feet.

Because nature sometimes kills trees, humans can't kill trees? Well of course we can. Put a chain saw in my hand and I take a few down. Did people cause the pine beetle problem in Colorado? No they pop up real bad about every 100 years or so. Can I spread Oak wilt? Sure but animals do it better. It is recomended not to do any pruning of Oaks at this time of year. The Oak wilt will kill them. SOD only means sudden Oak death. They do not tell you why. I would bet it is Oak wilt in a broken Oak. That is what will kill them here that quickly. The fungus enters the wound and spreads fast. Here in Minnesota we have much experience with it. Also have ways to prevent it. Or to slow it's spread.

This is the biggest lie I've read here in the forums in a long, long, time. You can discuss damage to property that isn't yours all you want but to insist such a thing that it's the early demise of the tree is totally ludicrous. Hardly ludicrous and definitely not a lie, although I suppose it depends on where you live. In my area, there is not an acre of oak forest and watershed that has not been affected by Sudden Oak Death, with pathogens carried by Bays and other trees, and spread to some extent by hikers. SOD has now infected trees in numerous counties in California and Oregon. I have tried to convince people that bays and oaks are not appropriate places to place a cache, that there are certain areas where park managers specifically ask people to stay on trail, and that climbing, poking around, and other activity can help spread the pathogen - at the very least, certain precautions should be taken. But fallen wood and Bays make for easy hiding spots. And bays are often easy to climb for a cache. So it goes. Perhaps the battle is effectively lost where I live. But I do not want to be responsible for making it worse. Or for spreading it to other areas. If you do cache in places where pathogens are likely, please stay out of my neighborhood. There is an oak in my yard that I want to protect. SOD never heard of it. But I do own property with many large Oaks on it. Age from 10 to 300 plus years old. We do have Oak wilt, caused by a fungus. Which is spread by the root system and by squirrels and other animals. Squirrels like to eat the sweet bark of Oak wilt trees. People climbing trees spreading disease, Highly unlikely. A wind storm will do it, due to Oak wilt making it weak. I have one tree about 150 years old that got hit by wind. Broke a large branch (about 200lbs)off. The rest of the tree was in good looking shape. But that much damage killed the tree SOD. I have another, the 300 plus years old. Took some wind damage and broke off a 8,000 lbs. branch, that is the second one for it. that tree is still alive. So you see it is not people but nature and the toss of the dice as to tree death.

This is an example of the attributes from one of my river hides. The snowmobile can be driven down the middle of the river in winter. Surprises are no fun. Tooling up for the hunt is better, one requires a 24 foot pole. Although EskoClimber came with climbing gear and went up. That tree is like a utility pole, no branches. not available for winter not recommended at night not 24-7 may require swimming may require wading thorns! scenic view snowmobiles allowed hunting area boat required ticks! poison plants! It is always better to be prepared and more fun.

I have a series on a river, both sides of the river. I reated mine a 5 terrain due to you need a boat/canoe or walk the ice. To get to them, I also had to hang some high due to possible flooding. Sure you could cross the river by boat/canoe. You could also start up river and travel down. Making for a nice river trip. Only a few are accessible by land (public land). All others require water access. So a 5 with special tool attribute may be best.

Yesterday I went looking for a geocache that is a field puzzle. I got the needed info to open the container. I had to search the net for the info. An encrypted combo lock. A word to open it. I get there knowing it is in the corner of a yard with permission. I find a fire hydrant and a telecommunications access cover. It was quite obvious the hydrant was not it, also illegal to hide on those. here when that is found it gets archived. I lifted a side of the box to see if it was real and find yes it is. I close it and walk away. This is a utility control device. Unlawful to open these, the general public may not open any utility boxes or devices. One this is trespass and tampering with these devices. I called for an archive, so far nothing. It now has 3 watchers I am one. MN.Fruitcake is the reviewer I am sure that he had no knowledge of the situation at time of publication. I would expect him to see this soon. If not I will contact him. Our reviewers do get needs archive notices. It should be common knowledge that any utility control box can not be accessed by a geocacher to hide or to seek.

One just like this published a few days ago here. This one needed a puzzle solved to open the box. It was listed as ? Also had the field puzzle attribute. You would be best to do that.

As a side note to all this. I have recently found that legislation is working through Minnesota legislature. All who trespass on to private property for any reason whatsoever. Shall have written ppermission before doing so. Currently if those woods are not posted we may trespass until told to leave. Not a good idea to trespass in the first place. Property owners are getting fed up with trespassers. Will this possible law make it? I can't say, it may, it may not. But it will affect us all no matter what.

If a hide is placed on private property, you are to place the disclaimer as to permission given. Same holds true if you are the CO and property owner. I have discovered the same issues here. Even so far that the CO claimed that the land was public property and the county gave permission. The CO did not tell the truth. I called him on it in an e-mail and got no response. Now when I find this situation I just report it to the reviewer. Problem taken care of. After one run in with owner I decided to check GIS maps at many hides before going out. Those maps do not come from Google. I have had to call the reviewer on the mat before about property lines for some of my hides. He used Google I use county Gis map, drastically different. Far too many people think that property should belong to everybody. So they do not care about property lines. They trespass any way. Bad idea, you may wind up on the wrong end of something long and black. As far as liability. If you don't remember about two years ago a post here told about a law case in Texas. A CO was found liable for injury to geocache seeker. He fell out of tree. The same rulling was used as a home owner. Atractive nussiance. You have a pool and kid drowns. even though you not give permission your fault. Here some cities have rules in parks all cache must be accesd with both feet on the ground. Not all do just a few. Why? Liability!! Those that do not have that rule state that any geocache determined to be placed as to create danger will be ordered removed. Now not all cities have these rules, but as the dangerous ones are created you can bet that the rules will pop up.