Mn-treker
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So there is a local cacher who has 5 puzzle caches that have never been solved/logged as finds. I happen to live in an area where there are a good deal of excellent puzzle solvers (I am NOT one of them!) yet no one has cracked any of these in 4-5 years. The CO basically taunts would-be solvers by saying things like "Hmmmm Seems we dont have any real puzzle solvers here."
I don't really care about the little taunts or even a puzzle that is very difficult to solve, but what's the idea of having 5 caches that can't be found by a reasonable (or any) number of people? I know when had a particular challenge cache submitted, the reviewer rightfully wanted me to prove that a decent number of people in the area qualified before he would publish it. Seems hypocritical.
Also, can someone verify that puzzles have to have a solution submitted at the time of review. Keystone, you would know the answers without a doubt
So why don't you give us the GC codes for these puzzles. Maybe it is solvable.
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Every one has there own version of fun with this game. Some days I go for just a few, one or three. Then others ten or twenty, my best was 52 in one day.
Then last year I went on a 26 mile bike ride and nailed 176. I won't do that again I was not quite in shape for it.
Now I and another geocacher are playing leapfrog in the cacherstats. I think that a few others had been also for a while.
Numbers are the most common way to keep score. Like it or not that is a big thing in this game quantity of hides and finds.
To each his own. But to those that hide we also go for quality of the hide. This adds some spice to the numbers.
Lets all just have fun.
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I also have a PN 20 and a PN 60. I use internet explorer 11. The send to GPS plugin works fine for me with both units.
The plugin is not specific to the PN model, it works for all PN models. Chrome no longer supports the plugin though.
I also use firefox which I just recently installed. The plugin works fine with that also. You may have to tell firefox not to block it.
On my first use of the plugin it did not work, then I noticed a box asking me if I wanted to keep blocking that plugin.
I told firefox to allow and all is good now.
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Can a CO be sued? Answer YES!! I have read about it in these very forums. That disclaimer by Groundspeak is no good for the individual CO, only Groundspeak.
Law suit was reported out of Texas. CO lost, had to pay hospital bill for seeker. Why?? He deliberately set up a dangerous situation that would lure people
into, the best way to put it Dangerous situation ( a high tree hide). Also along the attractive nuisance laws. Now would that same ruling happen in all States? That is a big unknown
It really depends on the judge and the laws of the State. when any of us make a hide we take the risk that the law may come after us.
BOMB!! scare that cache looks like a bomb. Arrest the CO it has been thought of by the courts. To the point that in some places the law says what the container must be (clear no tape no paint no amo can.
The reality is that we all need to stop and think about the hide that will be made. Is it a good idea to do that here, maybe rethink it. I could guarantee that when some kid goes up that tree to get the cache
and falls out the CO will be sued and will most likely loose. There will be so much sympathy for that kid you will have no chance. Just use common sense when making a hide or when making the find. I have walked away
from trees that were not a good idea to climb. The CO did not like my comment but I don't care. Some hides look to me like the CO wants to see somebody get hurt. Is that good publicity for this hobby? Absolutely not!
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Or maybe you could just place it in the middle of the cache page.
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By the way you will need a computer. You cannot do this with a phone.
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You need to download load the send to GLS plugin for your unit.
I recommend that you use Firefox or IE 11. The plugins don't work well
With Chrome any more. Click on send to GPS on the cache page.
You will get a red circle with line in it. That means no.
You will see a link for you to go download the plugin for your unit.
Click on it and follow instructions.
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PVC pipe+insulation foam in a can+rope+paint= hornets nest.
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Spray the car seat also. I have found dead ones a day after going caching.
They were on the floor and seat. Spraying the seat will be just like pretreating your clothes. I also spray the floor carpet in the car/ truck.
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Funny as I write this the song I'd like to check you for ticks is on the radio.
Today I went into waist high grass. I thought that I came out clean.
I went to work and then to an event at a pizza place. While I was talking
With somebody a wood tick went crawling along my arm. Geeze it had been five hours since that field. Lucky me that was the only one, I hope.
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But, "In this case, the parties in question are working on an elaborate cache and have remained in contact regarding their progress." I don't understand how it is holding up such a large area.
TBH, you don't need to understand. There have been some plausible suggestions why this might be the case (e.g. multi, puzzle, etc.), but in the end it really doesn't matter what the reason. If the reviewer says it's off-limits, it's off-limits. They've told you that the other cachers are in contact and actively working on it, so there really isn't anything else to be done other than be patient. Be sure to come back here when their cache is published and let us know what it's like.
Frankly I would just sit tight. Also check on the rules for the area.
Groundspeak has a .10 mile rule. But the local authority may have a much
Larger spread. Here a local county park board has a .25 mile spread.
It is not for you to understand, only to obey. That sounds harsh but is
The reality.
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Adult deer tick on the left, nymphal stage on the right.
That is barely larger than this period.
Those deer ticks come even smaller than that. Try clear like a water drop with only the black legs visible.
that is the nymph stage. Guardrail10 got nailed by one.
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Of course you can create a Lab cache.
Just put a picture of a Lab on the cache page and call it a Lab Cache!
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The first reported case of Lyme disease was in a boy in Lyme Connecticut
Wow!! What a strange coincidence, huh?
That may have been the first diagnosed case.
But it has been around a lot longer than that. Arthritis and other joint problems may be related to it.
Research is now showing a relationship to many things. High dose by IV of Doxy over a long period of time has been shown to help MS.
I say break out the DDT maybe that will fix things
Use it for two years then stop so we don't have the problemsthat it caused back when it was used heavily. We kill a bunch of ticks skeeters and deer flies :
the Snakes Fox and coyotes can get the mice. Then the bacteria that caused all this go away.
After all getting rid of rats stopped the plague.
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Ah hah,, I think i see the basis for concern here. Allthough this doesn't give numbers, it does show that lyme disease is mostly regional and has more reported cases up north. Yes, i might look at this a bit more differently if i lived up that way...
Thirty years ago, it would have been a small circle in Connecticut.
20 years ago, it would have been in Pennsylvania, New York, and New England.
<cue scary music here>
If you live in North America, it is coming. If you do rural caching (vs urban caching), it is coming for you.
Austin
It also looks like it may have started in New York. That map is most dense there.
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Those who avoid the chemicals should be extremely alert to early symptoms of Lyme Disease. There are almost always some early symptoms, and it is easily and effectively treated in the early stages.
A test for Lyme Disease is also a possibility - maybe annually for an active outdoor person who avoids permethrin & deet.
Often, the people do get the early symptoms, but wait to see if they will go away... which they will. Before they come back with a vengence!
And if you DO contract Lyme, the treatment involves being injected with chemicals.
I was told by a DR. that the test for lymes is no good till about 2 to 3 weeks after infection.
At my local clinic a DR. went to a tick symposium and just about kicked another DR. that saw me.
I had come in with a golf ball sized welt from a tick. Type unknown due to I lost it after pulling it out.
DR. said do nothing and it will get better.
Two days after seeing that DR. The other one (DR. from symposium) heard about my visit and got out my file.
This DR. was not even my DR. and went balistick on the DR that had seen me. Then That DR. put me on docyciclin. That DR. learned that it is better
to give drugs and worry about test later due to how long you must wait till the test can be done.
None of my tests ever showed positive. A side note both DRS. are female, one was superior to the other.
After that episode now any time somebody comes in with a tick bite they get Doxy.
There is also another tick disease to think about. Anaplasmosis: It has the same symptoms as Lymes and is spread by all ticks.
I had my doctor test me this spring (I got a small tick attached to my chest early this spring, before I had treated my clothing). Because of his small size, I was unable to get the head out, and it infected. Anyway, the doctor actually had them run two tests... one to show early Lyme infection (from this bite) and one to show an old infection from past bites. So there may be some new technology since you dealt with that.
(I was negative on both tests)
Yes they are improving on testing, yes they are monitoring for many differnt ifections.
Years ago, 1996 I had the worst sinus infection seen. The MN dept. of health found out about it
and ordered I undergo a whole barage of tests. Lymes was one. it came back with a slight hint of possible.
That is how primative the test was then. It turned out I had an unidentified, unidentifiable fungus.
Which then went to Strep A and Staff. That almost killed me, 1mm from entering my brain. I was being
eaten from the inside by that.
Surgery and Clyndamyacin for a year and half.
Also two more surgeies since then. At some point they may get a vaccine for lymes. They have one for dogs now. The Drs. are so willing to give antibiotics for possible Lymes due to so little is understood
about it. Some people get Doxy by IV for a month. It is now suspected that MS may be related to lymes.
There is a whole lot to learn yet. DRs. need to be open to all possibles.
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Those who avoid the chemicals should be extremely alert to early symptoms of Lyme Disease. There are almost always some early symptoms, and it is easily and effectively treated in the early stages.
A test for Lyme Disease is also a possibility - maybe annually for an active outdoor person who avoids permethrin & deet.
Often, the people do get the early symptoms, but wait to see if they will go away... which they will. Before they come back with a vengence!
And if you DO contract Lyme, the treatment involves being injected with chemicals.
I was told by a DR. that the test for lymes is no good till about 2 to 3 weeks after infection.
At my local clinic a DR. went to a tick symposium and just about kicked another DR. that saw me.
I had come in with a golf ball sized welt from a tick. Type unknown due to I lost it after pulling it out.
DR. said do nothing and it will get better.
Two days after seeing that DR. The other one (DR. from symposium) heard about my visit and got out my file.
This DR. was not even my DR. and went balistick on the DR that had seen me. Then That DR. put me on docyciclin. That DR. learned that it is better
to give drugs and worry about test later due to how long you must wait till the test can be done.
None of my tests ever showed positive. A side note both DRS. are female, one was superior to the other.
After that episode now any time somebody comes in with a tick bite they get Doxy.
There is also another tick disease to think about. Anaplasmosis: It has the same symptoms as Lymes and is spread by all ticks.
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Deet is almost worthless, it wont stop Deer flies.
Nothing stops deer flies, except maybe a head net. Those flies are vicious. They're fortunately rare around metro Atlanta.
A 2 lb. hammer seems to work well, but be careful if they land in your hair.
But now is the time of Tick sleep, my nick name for it. I find that Tick activity is ZEROfrom mid July to mid October or mabe end of September. At least in my area and other parts of Minnesota.
Good to know. I wonder what causes that?
Too hot for people to go outdoors, maybe?
I like that 2lb hammer idea. What causes the Tick activity to go down that much?
My guess is that they have laid their eggs and the adults die or have gotten eaten.
One time in a WMA in the town of Bethel, MN in mid October I saw what looked like a bunch of ants crawling on the ground.
It was not ants, it was thousands of wood ticks, a new hatch.
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I once read a story about a bike rider who was gradually getting naked as he rode his bike.
True story, He was wearing spandex clothing while riding that bike.
He also had sprayed himself with Deet. It was found that Deet disolves spandex.
Permithrin goes on the clothes and not skin due to the nureo toxin effect.
I have sprayed it on my dog aftrer going geocaching, because I forgot to use it before.
For the next day I counted 12 dead ticks fall off of him. I left him like that for a week
then bathed him. To this day, one and half month later he has not had any ticks.
Also no ill effects. I also use Frontline on him, which also contains permithrin.
Deet is almost worthless, it wont stop Deer flies.
But now is the time of Tick sleep, my nick name for it. I find that Tick activity is ZERO
from mid July to mid October or mabe end of September. At least in my area and other parts of Minnesota.
I just came back from the arrowhead area of our state and used no Deet or Permithrin.
I went deep into the woods and grass, no ticks at all. This has been my experience for many years here.
When I expect Ticks I spray my stuff, boots too with permithrin. I have seen ticks try to go right thrthrough my jeans due to confussion to get me but soon die. Yes spray the seats and floor of your car.
I have found many dead Ticks on my truck floors.
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As to label or not. Follow the rules for where you hide it. City ordinance, DNR forest rules, Park rules.
These are just a few, it is your responsibility to check on the rules for where you hide.
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So, I bring up a subject and say my piece and then get told the problem is me.
It is getting harder and harder to place caches. The amount of hoops one now must jump through is making it very difficult for anyone to do anything out of the ordinary. It is almost like we can play, but only in the little sandbox, for which we're given.
Honestly, who the heck is going to sue the reviewers or GC in general? There are caches on the side of cliffs! If someone falls while trying to get it, whose fault is that?
It is exactly what I said up front, it sure seems like the reviewers are more and more like over-eager Home Owner Association board members. They want everything to be, look, and act the same. Some of the answers above seem to back this up.
The latest I got on a cache I just tried to publish is I now must go get the county's permission to place a cache on a county right of way. Like the county gives a hoot what is there. All this craziness is for, is to make it so difficult to do something out of the ordinary, that one simply says screw it and drops it all together. How is that good for the community?? What about the old phone booth caches? Would those now need the permission of the phone company to place them? Yes it is equivalent to this. I don't get it, obviously.
How hard is it to phone the county and ask?
Who at the county are you going to ask for permission to hide a geocache on a right-of-way? Who has the authority to give that permission?
And that's why I won't hides on Rights of Way.
Our reviewers are getting more dilegent about hides.
Why? A number of reasons:
One: bomb scares.
Two: freaked out people that live close to a hide (thank you Dept. of homeland security for pushing see something/anything, say something LOUD.)
Three: Sue the reviewer? It aint been done yet, but maybe soon. Remember a few years back in these forums. A story from Texas about a law suit.
A Geocache seeker fell out of tree and got hurt. sued the CO and won. Ruling: the CO created a dangerous situation thus challenging people to look for it. Attractive nuisance.
The CO had to pay Hospital bill for the seeker. At some point a lawyer will go after all involved. so with the changing landscape of the laws regarding Geocache hiding of course the reviewers will be more picky about our hides. We should not take offense hopefully they are up on the rules better than we are.
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We all need to help the reviewers to keep up on changing rules also.
I went to make my first hide and found a city ordinance about it.
The reviewer did not know, but does now and uses it for that city.
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So, I bring up a subject and say my piece and then get told the problem is me.
It is getting harder and harder to place caches. The amount of hoops one now must jump through is making it very difficult for anyone to do anything out of the ordinary. It is almost like we can play, but only in the little sandbox, for which we're given.
Honestly, who the heck is going to sue the reviewers or GC in general? There are caches on the side of cliffs! If someone falls while trying to get it, whose fault is that?
It is exactly what I said up front, it sure seems like the reviewers are more and more like over-eager Home Owner Association board members. They want everything to be, look, and act the same. Some of the answers above seem to back this up.
The latest I got on a cache I just tried to publish is I now must go get the county's permission to place a cache on a county right of way. Like the county gives a hoot what is there. All this craziness is for, is to make it so difficult to do something out of the ordinary, that one simply says screw it and drops it all together. How is that good for the community?? What about the old phone booth caches? Would those now need the permission of the phone company to place them? Yes it is equivalent to this. I don't get it, obviously.
How hard is it to phone the county and ask?
Who at the county are you going to ask for permission to hide a geocache on a right-of-way? Who has the authority to give that permission?
Most rural roads in MN, at least the gravel roads, are owned by the township and not the county.
Those township roads also have different ROW rules. I currently own land with a township road.
I own the land the road is on as well as the ditch on both sides of the road.
The township owns the ROW for the road and utilities only. Also the distance for the ROW is not the same from the center line on township roads. I can prohibit trespass in the ditch.
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Nope. On the newer Garmins you can edit and delete individual waypoints but you cannot delete individual geocaches on the device itself. BaseCamp does actually allow you to delete individual geocaches on the device while it's connected. But there's no way to do it in the field.
I found yDelormeelete them singly or all at once. Oh how I wish I could do that with Geocaches!!!!
Go buy a Delorme. On those you can add individual geocache as well as delete individual geocache.
Found it, DNFed or even one that you have not looked for yet. All in the field right from the unit.
Those people that I know who have Garmins can't do that. PQ is the only way they can do it.
Use it for two years then stop so we don't have the problems
Who do I talk to if I have a problem with a reviewer?
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The tribe does not take care of GIS files.
That is done at the county level.
I have found that a web organization
Called the Beacon that provides this service to the counties has a few problems
With aligning property lines correctly with airial photos. But still the county that
The property resides in shall have the difinative say as to ownership, not the reviewer. I would check with the county.
I have had this argument with my reviewers
More than once. I win with county proof.
I have found that sometimes reviewers use
Google, which is very unreliable as to
Correct lines for WMA, State forest, wildlife refuge and such. They can't seem to get it right.