Gloom

W7MVG. I often moniter 2m repeaters around PDX, especially when I'm in the back country or away from home. ---- Never let Common Sense Get in the Way of Determination.

So is a westside wetsider better or worse than a drysider? How about an eastside wetsider? //est$ide!!!!! ---- Never let Common Sense Get in the Way of Determination.

quote:Originally posted by Stryker-6:"What do you call it when you plot locations on the ground all over and use a GPS to go find/search for them?" I think a more precise answer to that would be waypointing or geodashing. That question doesn't mention anything about hiding containers, that's where the caching in geocaching comes from. But it's still good press so... ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by flat_lander:Just to clarify a couple of technical problems.... 1) While it is true that every website has an IP address, every website does not necessarily have a UNIQUE IP address. Virtual hosting allows a webserver to use one IP for many many domains. Depending on how the webserver is configured, or how you setup your cache, people could get different sites for the same IP. 2) IP's change. Thus the primary reason for DNS. IP changes are more common than you might realize, especially with the rate that telecom co.'s are going out of business these days. Hmmm.... maybe sueover should use the MAC address then? Every computer using TCP/IP to access the net has a unique MAC address, it's hardcoded into the network card. You'd have to have an packet sniffer to grab the network packets and decode the MAC address though. That'd be too devious, I think ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by Jeremy (Admin):Took award, left word? Took award, left words? ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

Some of the best: - gloom is just excuses (please excuse me...) - gloom is spreading - gloom is here - gloom is over - gloom is not bad - gloom is a powerful shadow dragon from the same prime material world that elenia hails from - gloom is slightly tired - gloom is a trademark of team reaction (oh yeah?) - gloom is liable to predispose some people to be unhappy about the weather (true!) - gloom is the issue of who is to blame - gloom is obvious - gloom is an unparalleled sonic experience - gloom is ook bij het center - gloom is a messenger of light illuminates the ground thru the dark and stormy night he doesn't ask for money - gloom is misguided :-) - gloom is the unapproachable light in which god is said to dwell (um... yeah) - gloom is everywhere - gloom is another of my favorite characters - gloom is the possibility of fixing it with molecular nanotechnology And my favorite: - gloom is never gloomy ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

the 10"x7"x3" ones are 30 caliber. The 11"x5.5"x7" ones are 50 caliber. HTH, Gloom ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

I'll try to make it, if work doesn't tell me I need to work that day. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by bazzle:Anybody else notice the recent facination with placing micros in relatively unremarkable places? Is it some new competition to see who can place the most caches? Or just lack of creativity by new placers? Oh God... here we go again. First it was locationless, then virtuals, now micros too? What's next, Multis? No disrespect to anyone who posts here, but why can't you realize that not everyone's ideal cache is the same and leave it at that? With respect to THIS topic, I thought the point of caching was to find the cache. Not the place. Sure it's better if the cache is at some cool or beutiful location, but so what if it's not? The point is to find the hidden object, and not all of them are going to be in the best locations. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by Mopar:Either way, thats alot of sand to tear up looking for a cache. I don't know about your spot, but some beach areas around here are extremely fragile enviromentally, I wouldnt think of tearing up a 60ft circle looking for a cache. On the other hand, sand makes it easy to probe with a long skinny object and you don't have to "tear up a 60ft circle" to find it. We had one out in an offroad vehicle designated sand dunes. It lasted for about 2 years before someone stole it. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by RichardMoore:Why was Gloom's 'dead employee in a parking lot' cache approved? It seems that this doesn't meet the requirements for a virtual. It was approved before the new restrictions. Besides, it does fit the requirements for a virtual. Other than not being coffee table book material (again, that is a suggestion, not a requirement) there is nothing that doesn't fit the requirements. It is: 1) Permanent Physical Location 2) Of Interest to others (read the logs, again what is of interest to one person may not be to another) 3) Not Commercial 4) geographically dispersed. The closest cache is a multi at 0.9 miles 5) Has a question about the location 6 and 7 are not requirements but suggestions. Tell me now, why it should not be a virtual? It fits every one of the requirements listed in the Cache Listing Requirements. And to get back to the original topic, Centex Trekker's virtual also seems to fit all of those requirements, yet was not approved. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

Since it sounds like your GPS doesn't automatically average, you could try manually averaging it. Take a couple of waypoints at the location, I usually do 10 to 20 depending on how bad it seems. If you want to do more it'll only increase your accuracy, but then it takes longer. Then do an average on the numbers that you get. You should get pretty accurate coordinates that way. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by Ddog-N-Ma:This public humiliation campaign you have stared is just well, to quote you "That's just freaking rude. Really rude." I disagree. Sometimes people need a little extra push. I had a TB taken to England (even though the mission was to go to utah) and then the cacher stopped caching. Repeated emails and even offers to pay for return postage went unanswered. Finally as a last resort I posted a note on one of their caches telling the story and asking if anyone had contact with them to let me know. Withing a day, actually a couple of hours, my TB was back out in a cache and a nasty email was in my box. The cacher was pissed because I continued to harrass him, he had family problems, etc. etc. Now, how hard was it for him to send me a short email saying such in reply to one of my previous emails? At that point I would have left him alone. But I had to resort to a "public humiliation campaign" as you call it to get him to respond. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

I tried to add this to my previous post, but it wouldn't show up, so here it is. Added note: I do think that guidelines for virtuals were a good thing as there were getting out of hand. But I think the approvers are going overboard on disapproving all types of caches these days. What is interesting and novel to one person certainly may not be another. That said, I think we do have a good system for protesting (if under used), that being the forums. When you get disapproved you should post it to the forums, not whine, just post and get the feelings of the group in general. Also, I would think that some discretion in replying to polls should be used. Some of you are dead set against ANY vitural and therefor are biased. If this describes you, please don't vote as it skews the results for people who actual do like virtuals. Again, flame away... ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

I don't know all the circumstances to this cache, and neither do the approvers, but I don't see why this shouldn't be a virtual. I know a lot of you say to make an offset or a micro or a blah blah blah. There are some places that just can not be made into a real cache for various reasons. I have one in the parking lot of a local REI (no comercial ties, in fact you don't even need to set foot in the REI parking lot to log it). There is a memorial there to an employee who died. There is really no physical way to place a real cache at this location, nor would an offset cache be practical. How would you tie another location into this one? I know now that this would not be approved these days, but I don't see why not. A lot of you see virtuals as a waste of bandwidth, but they are not. I think of them as a good learning tool for newbies to learn how to use their GPS in a setting that doesn't require quite the same comitment as a regular cache. I imagine a newbie facing the decision of hiking a half mile (or more) through a heavily wooded park just to find out if s/he likes caching (or can even use the GPS correctly) or finding a virtual that's not that far from the parking lot and see if they can find it. I know this is true by the amount of people with only 1 find that log my cache and tell me what a good time they had finding their first. I think that if we do away with easy virtuals like this then maybe a lot of people won't take the first step into caching. Ask yourself how you would've felt way back when you did your first cache if you couldn't have found it. Or you found a traditional cache that was full of McTrash or other garbage. Do you think you would have continued caching? Probably not. I think a few people out there may be intimidated by traditional caches as their first and an easy virtual is a great stepping stone. My point is that everyone's thoughts of a good cache are different. I agree that caches should be of a unique/interesting nature and that each approver has their own opinion of what that is, but it should be pretty clear from the (limited) cache description that A) the cache poster thinks this is an interesting place and the city/state what ever must also if this place has plaques or monuments or something else to find the answers to the questions. There must be some sort of historical significance to it for that to happen. Therefore, it satisfies the requirements listed in the guidelines. No, maybe not enough to make a coffee table book out of it, but then that is only a suggestion. I know that my cache wouldn't be approved now and I find that sad given the number of finds it has and the number of those that are newbies just getting started. go ahead and flame... ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. [This message was edited by Gloom on March 21, 2003 at 04:31 PM.]

Down around the Klamath Falls, Oregon area there are (or were) a couple that were inside Mom-n-Pop diner/stores. They were more like "go inside and ask for the cache (not cash!)" type. I can get you the waypoints if you're interested. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

My first take was the Darth Maul TB from the Attack of the Clones cache ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by mtn-man:If you want, Gloom, I will change your MOC's to regular caches so you can see them. This is a question that goes beyond what a cache approver admin can do, but I can see the cache and change the status so you can see it. Just post a message here or click my name and send me an email and I will change them for you. (You may want them to stay MOC's for some reason, so I will not just do it without your permission.) Please go ahead and change them to normal caches. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

d'oh wrong button again

quote:Originally posted by 9Key:* I've not heard of quadexplorer He is (or was an admin) from Klamath Falls. I don't think he's been active in 6 months or more. He put out some of the most interesting and puzzling caches I've ever seen. Like nailing an altoids tin 20 feet up a telephone pole, or in the courtyard in the middle of a retirement home. ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

I should be a rocket scientist according to that test my IQ is 161! ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by Gimpy:Looks like without warning, I became a non-charter member after the year was up. Yep same thing happened to me. Either yesterday or today I had my charter revoked. I'm pretty sure I didn't choose the auto-renew though. I would have appreciated an email from Groundspeak before hand though. I posted a related topic in the general section ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

Ok, heres something that kinda sucks. I signed up for the year charter membership about a year ago. Since then I've lost the credit card that I signed up on paypal with, and don't have access to the email that I signed up with either. I don't remember the correct answers to verification questions (I know, my fault) so I can't get in to change my account. Well enough history... today I noticed something weird while looking at my posts in the DG, it no longer says Charter Member next to my avatar, just Geocacher. Ok, so my membership expired and paypal can't automatically bill me since they don't have my new card number (that's a good thing). I suppose I didn't get a notice since my PayPal email is no longer valid. Then a thought occured to me. So I check on one of my existing Members Only caches. Sure enough, I can't access it. Isn't it kind of counter productive to not let the owner of a cache see the page even if it's a MOC and the owner is no longer a member? It's now impossible for me to check up/edit my cache page or to edit/delete the logs if need be. Admins, is there a way we can change this? I suppose the easy way would be to make owners MOCs become regular caches when their membership expires, but that doesn't seem right. I'd like to see it be that an owner can access their cache whether they are a member or not. Now... do I want to renew my membership? Other than supporting Jeremy et. al. and access to MOCs I don't see much in the way of benefits. Gloom ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

(as I write this) 33 people have looked at this thread when it's fairly obvious from the title that there would be no content. I find it even more fasinating that I'm so bored I managed to reply to it! ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

quote:Originally posted by jasonhuber:(let me correct myself) the people that MANAGE the land. Not OWN - we own the land, sorry about that. Much better. Now repeat to yourself 10 times "We are the public in public lands" ---- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.