J Grouchy

Go to street view, you see a light post nearby. A close examination of the image reveals where the cache is most likely hidden.... File this under the unintended consequences of hiding a cache in manicured shrubbery...

You could add an NFC tag or even a QR code that directs people to an image of the sign (assuming there is an image)...just a thought.

No. Everything I heard (from Rick Steve's book to a neighbor that traveled there a couple years ago) told me it totally was not worth the time. It's a four or five mile round trip (walking, mind you) through a flat wasteland to an abandoned plane. When we drove by, the parking area was packed with dozens of cars and at least two tour buses, so we wouldn't have even been able to get a decent photo without tons of people in it. Vik is a cool little town. We ate dinner there twice. Once on the night we arrived at our place about 30 minutes away and another time on the drive back from the lagoon to Reykjavik (ugh...five hour drive). That's one thing we would have done differently: finding a place to stay near Vik that night would have been ideal. In a way it's good we got back that night, though. It was forecasted to be "dangerously windy" on the south coast the next day.

I'll add that I never even needed to use my GPSr device. My phone was enough...even at very slow (2G) speeds. I'd downloaded the necessary info and just sent in my logs when I had access to free wifi, which was pretty much everywhere we stopped where there was a building nearby. Restaurants, stores, museums, hotels... I only ended up logging 11 caches, including a couple virtuals and an earthcache. I barely managed to drop the 9 trackables I'd brought. I had to put 4 in one cache and 3 in another, and one in each of two others. It was such an awesome place to visit, honestly...caching was not a high priority. I never really went out of my way for one. Only looked when we were near enough to make the slight detour. The only one I wish I'd detoured further for was at Skaftafell park. We were in a time crunch to reach Jokulsarlon for one of our only two scheduled activities and couldn't detour down to the creekside where the cache was hidden. Ah well...any excuse to go back!

Well now that I'm home again...I'm ready to go back! My wallet, however, is asking me for a break.

We have a rough timeline planned. Not a strict schedule (aside from a boat thing scheduled at Jokulsarlon and a couple hours at Blue Lagoon on our last day). We'll probably do our first day (afternoon, really) just checking out Reykjavik, but the rest of the week will be wandering the southern half of the island (Golden Circle and Ring Road out to the glaciers). We have a place booked out near Vik for one night so we won't have to drive the whole way out east on our glacier day. I know our daylight will be short, but we intend on making good use of it. At first we'd thought about visiting a place like Prague or Amsterdam, but decided we'd rather not spend too much time in a city and this might be our best opportunity in the foreseeable future to visit Iceland.

Yeah, that's why I kept ECs in my pocket query. I figure I'll scan them when I'm there, have a notebook on hand...and if I can answer whatever questions or take photos that will help answer them, I will log them. Otherwise, they are more just POIs for us to use on our day trips.

Well, I'm not really a fan of homework...errr...Earthcaches, but if I'm there and I have the time and inclination I will go for it. If it involves a lot of research or if I have to translate it, though, I generally ignore it.

Looks good to me! We have T-Mobile for service and I'm told coverage is pretty good. We don't plan on any potentially treacherous off-the-main-road excursions requiring a 4x4, but I do want to have a map handy in the event we lose service and/or I don't have adequate battery. This isn't a caching trip, but I do plan to grab several while we are there, so I want to make sure I have some measure of reliable navigation to those caches!

I'll be going to Iceland in a little less than two weeks and was planning to bring my Garmin eTrex 20 with me to avoid having to worry about using my phone for navigation (and, of course, caching). I found this map on line (https://www.gpstravelmaps.com/gps-maps/europe/iceland.php), but was wondering if there were any good free ones I could download instead that would work well for both driving and caching. $30 isn't honestly too bad for the whole country, but I thought I'd find out if something roughly equal could be had for less...

No...I think for what they did and how they did it, they actually earned an even harsher response than I gave. They took it too far, in my opinion.

^^ Pretty much this. It's always good and proper to encourage signing log sheets. My biggest complaint about this matter is folks who take the guidelines to the extreme and are inflexible to the point of turning people off the game. I've deleted a handful of logs...but I'm pretty sure almost every single one was a duplicate log, a DNF that was posted incorrectly as a find, or a spoiler log that the person refused to edit. The only times I've ever actually checked a log sheet was for suspicious finds on tough puzzle caches I own.

Hmmm... Reminds me of a famous exchange:

I think this is the best example I can find of how to destroy all joy in this game. Congratulations on being the prime example of a Geocaching Scrooge.

I did no such thing. If I could afford to spend that much on anything, I'd still find it hard to justify. It's not a judgement on anyone but myself. If ever I can return the favor and put words in your mouth, just let me know.

Looks cool...but I'm not sure if it justifies a $500 (or even $200) price tag. Then again, I guess if you can afford a $3000 camera, a few hundred on a bag is no big deal.

Here we go again. It is 100% up to the CO. If someone writes a log that says they couldn't or didn't sign the log sheet, GS will not step in and delete the log, precisely because of what I just said...it is 100% up to the CO whether they want to let it stand. To CR: If you want to be a complete stickler for rules and regulations, dashing the joy of an 8 year old kid and making his family decide they'd rather not geocache because of the rude people who delete their finds....well, that's 100% up to you as well. You and only you are making the choice to delete the log and don't try to claim that your hands are tied and you are "just following the rules". You totally could have written that you hope they enjoyed themselves and would prefer it if they sign the log sheet in the future. No, instead you pulled out your rule book and robot voice and potentially gave them reason to wonder if all folks in this game are joyless.

No, Geocaching hasn't changed the meaning of the word "found". People who choose to log a DNF on a cache they see but cannot access are changing the meaning of "found".

Just proves you didn't actually read what I wrote, because that's not at all what I said.

Sorry, but no. That terminology is only referring to claiming the find online for the +1. It's not at all saying the opposite is true...that not signing the log even though you had your eyes on the cache container means you "didn't find it". I really don't understand why this is even remotely confusing for people. I'm not going to tell people I didn't find something that I clearly found but could not get a hold of. People who do are weird.

I'm not an Apple user, but the app I use has this VERY useful feature as well. It's a shame this isn't possible in either the official app OR even on the website (without editing the log).

So your actually SEEING the cache would mean you didn't FIND it? If I was in a crowd looking for my friend and spotted him across the room but was unable to attract his attention, then I didn't find him. I see. Makes perfect sense... ?

I stick to what I believe, but I wouldn't presume to tell others how to log. Again, is this difficult to understand?

Actually, I think it's pretty clear: If I am unable to locate a cache, that means I did not find it. It's when folks try to play with the meaning of words that gets us the eleventy billion threads about whether or not to log a DNF.

Just because I personally don't think it's correct doesn't make it invalid. Is that actually difficult to understand?