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Good catch, Chrysalides, thanks. Worse than a senior moment boo-boo.I should have caught it if I had of previewed it. And when I looked at the test waypoint this morn, it read N 30 14.100 on this 60Cx. Now N 30 49 06 W 080 28 11 reads N 30 49.100 W 080 28.183 on this unit. I hope that this is the correct conversion.

If, my fast scan/read is correct: Test will occur from midnight to 2:45 UTC (London or "Other" in the Time Zone) Garmin 60Cx>Menu>Setup>Time>Time Zone, for just out of the box newbies. That should be from 7PM to 9:45PM Eastern Time only. N 30 49 06 W 080 28 11 DMS Converts to: N 30 14.100 W 28.183 DMM Says this 60CXs. Should be fun to check on how bad the test messes up your GPS receiver! Let us know. Thanks.

Usually 30 min, or longer, out in the open, no trees or bldgs, will let the unit find the sats, set the correct time , and download a new almanac, which it now lacks. Sometimes it needs a little help from the Sat Page>menu>new location,automatic or use map, which you said that you have done. Try holding down Out and Pwr, to relocate the Sats. Also, another way to Hard Reset is by holding down Quit+Menu+Zoom Out+Pwr for at least 10 seconds. No box drop down box or message will appear. If the Map Page shows your location at the Garmin Blue flag in Kansas, then it reset ok, if not, then hold all 4 buttons down longer on the next try. Important to be out in the open when it is trying to find the sats, like mid field at the 50 yard line. After it finds the sats, and you have a location fix, let it download a new almanac, which takes around 13 min, and then I enable WAAS and give it at least 5 min to D/L it's almanac. Tough time of the year for some of us to be out in the open, and one has to improvise and find a location that might work, like on the dash of a vehicle facing south, or a south facing window inside the house, attic, or?? Keep trying.

From a map 60: Map Page>Menu>Measure Distance>then pan the white arrow to point A, then hit Entr, setting everything to zero, so you can then pan over to point B, and get the distance, bearing, and L/L, in the little box at the top. If more than 528 ft, one can set the units to yards, and get out 1000 yards before it changes to the dreaded mile breakdown. Hope that the "Oreo-gone" is like the 60. Also, if you hit Entr when at point B, you can measure back to point A, or elsewhere.

My CSx and Cx, get right at the same time when in the Normal Mode. It's the Battery Save Mode that will let one get the 30 hrs. I've gotten up to 33 hrs, with a GPS 60 and a 62s, connected to an ext ant on the roof, in the Batt Sv Mode. I don't like the way that the CSx does the elevation "thing". It's tied to the altimeter/barometer, and one has to dink with the setup, or wait for it to self adjust from the GPS elevation. The only way to get the GPS elevation, is a one time snapshot, of it, when going to the Sat Page>menu>then select GPS Elev at the bottom. On the Cx, the elevation in the Data Field is from the Sats, and I can see how settled/bouncy it is, along with the Lat/Lon bouncyness. I seldom use the Compass Page, so on the CSx, I got to Setup>Page Sequence>and on the Altimeter and Compass pages I hilite and then hit remove. This sends them both to the Main Menu Page, where I can get them if needed, otherwise they are out of my daily use pages. Choices, I love them, where everybody gets to do the same thing in a different way.

Will it stay on long enough for you to hit Menu>Setup>Clear Memory, with Reset default and All as choices? I haven't done either with a SporTrak.

If I discounted your first sentence, I would say check the External Power Lost, and see if it is set to Turn Off, rather than Stay On. Main Menu>Setup>System, second from the bottom. What happens when you shut the unit off, and then disconnect the USB cable? Then I would save everything to my PC, as a hard reset will wipe it clean. First trying to do a reset, with the unit free of the PC. Holding down Page and the Enter buttons, then the Power button, and the box should appear asking If you really want to erase all user data? click yes. Then it should reset to how it was when taken out of the box. OK, it shut down before the box appeared. So now I would try a hard reset with the unit connected to the USB/PC, 'cause I know that there should be enough power to get to the Y/N box. All that I can think of left to try, would be to download another software version, if I got this far. I just noticed something on the System Setup Page>menu, Restore Defaults. I need to check that out someday.

I wonder why the 46 icon is over just a tad south of east, when from that location it should be down near 21. My 60Cx says that 46 should be a "ruff" 210 deg from there. This is the second screen shot that I have seen showing the WAAS Sat icon over near the "E" on the Sat Page.

Thanks Edison.Starfire, that feed back is a BIG help. With the SporTrak and Meridian, one can only zoom in to 100 ft, and only to 35 ft with a MobileMapper. I have several waypoints in the backyard that have a 10 ft circle of rocks around them. I walk them with my Garmin 60's, tracks set to 1 sec, or 1 yard, and have the circle on the Map Page. Then each time I return to one of these points, I can make a new waypoint and see how it relates to the original, and where it is on the Map Page. Long term averaging one of these points, makes it more fun. This with the Garmins zoomed in to 20 ft. So now with the new Maggies zooming in to 10 ft, oh boy.... Looks like that they may have out done the Meridians, on the Projection Page features. I have some plats that read like, N 23.47 W, so having the min feature helps. Easier than converting to mils, or guestimating on the Map Page, for me. I hope that the SiRF chip is a bit calmer in the X10's, then in the TRitons. Father Time has me pretty much confined to back yard testing, but it wards off the dreaded "alltimers". I hate asking others to check out some things that very few people use, but it keeps me from having to buy/return. Grateful for help, especially during the "freezing, sneezing, weezing,season"!

My older units are acting as expected, with the "shutdown" of WAAS 48. The Meridian, after more than half an hour, keeps on searching for 48. Too bad that one can't go inside, via 03, and cancel just one WAAS Sat, rather than both, as it's all or nothing. Another hack in the future to change to 46. The GPS 60 grabbed 51 right off, then in the second slot it searched for 48 for about a minute, then to 33 for about a minute, then to 46. The bar never goes solid and the icon flashes, but it has been doing the corrections ok. Sometimes with 14 sats visible, the unit only uses one WAAS slot/bar, and it has kicked 51 off, keeping 46, but the +- accuracy drops from 13 ft to 5 ft, like it does with 51. Side note: I have had the WAAS Sat kicked off of a 60CXs, when there were about 14 sats visible, just like Garmin said that it might, in a back page of the manual. Now I wonder how the new Maggie X10 units will handle the change.

And for simple Lat/Lon, the one near Bexley, east of London, might read something like: N 51.44145 E 000.14911 The one near Swindon, west of London, would be close to N 51.55833 W 001.78111

On an X10: How far can one zoom in on the Map Page? Waypoint projection, bearing, still deg + min, 357.26, or just the 357 deg only? And can one project out almost 10000 feet? WAAS, one or two icons/slots showing on the Sat Page? Can it do the 03 thing, like on the Meridian, to see the WAAS id numbers? Showing WAAS 46 yet? Quad antenna? I sure hope that they got the User Grid set up correctly, so I can compare it to the SporTrak and Meridian. Set them both up to display in centimeters, and see how a Maggie, with a SiRF, compares to the oldies. They never got the Triton 1500 set up to do State Plan, in Lambert, so we could use grid feet.

I wonder if any of the problems that I had with a 62s, have been solved in recent revisions, as I haven't replaced the one that I returned. With Fat Friday weekend coming up, I'm tempted to get a 62, or another 62s, since the 62 dosen't have an external ant connection. Can one creep along at about one ft every 2 sec, and have the unit refresh and keep up as you move? I could sometimes get almost 50 ft before it realized that the unit had moved, and started to update the L/L. Next problem was with showing the dots on the Map Page, when I would average a waypoint for 20 min with the Time set to one sec. I got a solid rectangle instead of a shotgun pattern.

g-o-c, I was thinking that your, and Dr J's, units were starting out, trying to pickup EGNOS 33, which some have reported getting from the E Coast of the US. I went to the Demo Mode and positioned myself at your L/L, then a GO TO to EGNOS 33, and see that it is more SE than E from your local, so that killed that theory. Another Cartesio bug? My GPS 60 keeps on trying to solid bar 46 for a few min, then pulling in 48 and 51. as long as I don't have more than 10 sats overhead; with up to 14 at on time, it settles on 51, usually. The 60CSx SiRF used 46 fo several days streight, now using 51 for thr last two days. The MTK chipped 60Cx, might pick any one of the three. The SporTrak and Meridian still just pick up 48 and 51, showing as one W, from this Ut location. I doubt that the older Maggies will be updated, like they were in 07, And I wonder about the new units from Magellan, catching 46 yet? The next stage testing will be after 48 is shutdown. I made a waypoint for WAAS 46 and 51, so I could make a Go To from any location, and see what might be blocking the WAAS signal. Aim the Map Page N like a paper map, then view the line. Zoom in and out as needed. Later I made up a route for the WAAS sats. Home W 46 Home W 51 By putting Home in the third slot, it cut out unwanted lines. Then zoom out 500 mi on the Garmins, and see a slight curve in the lines Also, for some idea as to high the WAAS sats are from the horizion, look at the aiming of a local Sat TV dish, as they are in the same ball park, as the WAAS sats. Let the fun testing continue.....

Now to check and see which units will pull it in without a revision. http://www.nstb.tc.faa.gov/ Just as 48 drifts a tad East of 51.

I just noticed that easterly bound WAAS 48, has almost caught up with 51. 48 is at 107.94 51 is at 107.27 It looks like that 48 will track just south of 51 as it passes it. (if - means south) Can't blame my 60CSx for using 46 for the last few says, as 48 and 51 duke it out.

Follow up: I couldn't get any of the glue, that I have, to work right, and the end of a kitchen match was considered, but seemed too "splinterfied". Then I found a plastic rod and cut about a 16th of an inch off of it, and dropped it in the hole, reset the rubber top, and tried the off/on button, now working better than new! A very small amount of shoe goo sealed the button split. Another button top repair might be to cut off the end of an eye dropper, or some other piece of rubber, and glue it on.

I have a GPS 60 apart, in order to fix the on/off button problem. One drop of Elmers on the bottem of the rod dried too flat. One small drop of polyurethane liquid glue, drying on the end of a kitchen match stick, has expanded more than the desired thickness of a penny of dime (my gustimate). Any suggestions of a type/brand of glue to try? Good seeing that the phillips screws were all the same length, and that the rubber seal between the front and back can be reseated easily. The wires that connect the front to the back, let me seperate the unit almost a half inch, plenty of room to get the back off first, then fingernail/pry the rubber top from the front grove, then slide the rubber top off. Flip it over and see that the rod, enclosed in a rubber shaft about 3/8 inch long, is where I'm trying to extend with glue. I've broken/split the top of the button almost half way around, with too many fingernail attempts, so I'll need to seal it also before the rod gets lost. I haven't seen any liquid rubber tubes for sale in years. Now, where is my tube of shoe goo, and is it still any good? Got to keep trying.

This is the best that I can come up with. http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headqu...gnss/waas/news/

From a 60Cx. Main Menu>Proximity> install chosen waypoint. Hilite far right Radius>Entr> #s box drops down for distance. Also ck Prox Alarm Tones at the bottom of page. Then back out and click on System, Prox Alarms off/on at the bottom of page. Next, Tones, Prox Alarm Tones at the bottom of page. And the mute box. Units, select Metric for the closest to the point, next is Statute, then Nautical, a tad further out. I'm forgetting something, but this will do for a starter.

Check and see if you can view both lat/lon and BNG on the same page in a vista, like one can on a map60. In any 60, I can select the British Grid in the Units, then go to a page that has 2 wide data fields, like the Trip Computer, and put Location lat/lon, in one, and Location selected, in the other. This also works for whatever else one has selected, UTM, User Grid, different lat/lon, or any other grid.

The elevation displayed in a 60CSx, is from the altimeter. To get the GPS elevation from the Sats, one has to go to the Sat Page>Menu>GPS Elevation for a one time "snapshot", of that instant elevation. And it has Jumpmaster. For my use, the 60Cx works out better.

From Garmin FAQ's: Question: How do I perform a Master Reset on my Colorado? Answer: To perform a master reset on the Colorado*: Power the unit OFF Hold down the two Soft Keys and the Power button Let go of the Power button when the GPS comes on, but keep holding the two Soft Keys Release all buttons when you see the screen say, "Do you want to clear all user data?" Select Yes Continue with the setup answering the questions the GPS asks you When you are finished, the unit has been master reset. *Note* : This will erase ALL user information and bring the unit back to the factory default settings. Place the Colorado outside in a stationary position for 20 minutes in plain view of the sky so that it can re-acquire satellites. Last modified on: 02/23/2010

Change the Lat/Lon from DEG/MIN.MM to DEG/MIN.MMM and you should be ok. The ELEV looks ok for a close by "hill", on my Topo.

Check out the Collection of FAQs at the top of the page, and scroll down to Magellan. Lots of good info there, as well as clicking on the yahoo groups SporTrak Map page when all else fails. Also: http://gpsinformation.net/MeridianFAQv2_0.pdf Most of the Meridian fixes work for the SporTrak. Some regular helper info can be found from the Magellan Legacy page, scroll down to the FAQ page at the bottom for the SporTrak and the Meridian. # 13 in the Meridian can help with some problems. I have had to use none of the above fixes, for my "Pro", in over 6 years of use. Good luck!