Coldgears

I am looking at this very pic next to the computer. Thanks for the reminder. Outta here. You just lost.

A picture of me at the cache doesn't prove I was there? Nor does an exact description of said cache? Nope. Neither does my name. Anyone can write "coldgears" in a cache. Let me make it simple so we can stop all these wild hypothetical situations you seem to like to throw around. My cache, I require signature. You're too lazy sign, I delete, GS backs me. Don't like, don't hunt my caches. The situation you mentioned about the long hike with no pen, I have been there (although rarely am without pen). I waited until I could get back to sign before logging. I do not care what the CO "would" accept, for me, no sig, no online log nor increment in count. Previous poster is correct. It is not a score, so if you or I do not log on line, no big deal however signing log is not only the accepted norm, it is the first thing GS will look at to settle a dispute. Again, not trying to make it work, but without some standards, this just becomes Waymarking. No one wants that. First of all, it is not wild, nor hypothetical. I've had numerous geocaching buddies, and family members all offer to sign a log in a geocache for me. I said "no" of course. I try as hard as I can to sign the log, but I refuse to do another 2 mile hike. I do geocaching for my own enjoyment, not for numbers. I'd rather leave it as "not found" then go back and find the cache again. Now, I understand you want to get on your high-and-mighty chair and spit down on me. But, you still have not given me adequate reason for why a picture of me at the cache, opened up, and with the log in my hand, is not adequate proof I have found it.

A picture of me at the cache doesn't prove I was there? Nor does an exact description of said cache? Nope. Neither does my name. Anyone can write "coldgears" in a cache.

I never said anything of the kind, so the next question would be what is you motivation for making an unfounded accusation? GC29GW1 care to guess who the CO is of this cache that specifically states It is my right to require a sig and my right to reject any other form of supposed proof legitimate or not. If you think you have the right not to sign, that is true but you take away any right you may have had if your sig was in the log. It is that simple. It is your right to deny any finds you deem illegitimate. However, I question your motives. You have not given me one compelling argument other then cheating, which, I have shown that it is also possible to cheat by signing a log, if not more-so then a picture. Why exactly won't you except it? Imposing your personal morals on others? Another reason I am over looking? What?

Keep in mind, I was just giving another example. I find pictures are the best proof of finds, even more-so then logs. They are nearly impossible to cheat on. Check out those Challenge thingies where a picture is requested. No cheating? Taking a picture of the outside of a cache that is opening, retreaving and replacing the cache is a part of the challenge instead of sigining isn't in some way cheating? Depending on the CO... No. That is a different scenario. It's like putting a throw down container at a virtual. It might be except-able on a traditional. Not on a virtual. Any-hoo. I've cheated on those caches too. I had my friend climb up a tree and bring it down for me too sign. So even the signing of log isn't cheat-proof either.

Keep in mind, I was just giving another example. I find pictures are the best proof of finds, even more-so then logs. They are nearly impossible to cheat on.

A picture of me at the cache doesn't prove I was there? Nor does an exact description of said cache? how do you know for a fact you are describing the cache? Because I opened it up, saw the log, and realized that the ammo box had no pen, and I was a 2 mile hike and a .5 mile bushwhack into the middle of a forest. Mud and twig? Twig and lighter? Chlorophyll? How do I, as a CO know that you didn't PAF to find out what the cache looks like? How do I, as a CO know you didn't ask a friend to sign the log for you? You don't, but as a CO I do require a signature if you want to log a found it online as is my prerogative. If that signature is in there then we could debate how it got there all day long but your sig is on the log so you would win. No sig, no find count increment. But that's on my caches, as long as you don't expect me to accept your description as a find then I don't expect your signature. Your argument is that allowing people to take a picture of the cache could enable cheating. I have a camera on me at all times. However, is it not more likely that cheating would occur by having a friend sign a log for you? If so, you must have an alterative motive. Please explain.

A picture of me at the cache doesn't prove I was there? Nor does an exact description of said cache? how do you know for a fact you are describing the cache? Because I opened it up, saw the log, and realized that the ammo box had no pen, and I was a 2 mile hike and a .5 mile bushwhack into the middle of a forest. Mud and twig? Twig and lighter? Chlorophyll? How do I, as a CO know that you didn't PAF to find out what the cache looks like? How do I, as a CO know you didn't ask a friend to sign the log for you?

A picture of me at the cache doesn't prove I was there? Nor does an exact description of said cache? how do you know for a fact you are describing the cache? Because I opened it up, saw the log, and realized that the ammo box had no pen, and I was a 2 mile hike and a .5 mile bushwhack into the middle of a forest.

A picture of me at the cache doesn't prove I was there? Nor does an exact description of said cache?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cOc6st8KaM Nobody was reminded of that instantly when hearing, "red stapler"?

Firetacks. Don't nail on a custom reflector. The nail WILL kill the tree, firetacks are made for trees. Nails are not. Other then that? Somewhere I would feel safe at night. So no homeless camp, and no forest with bears, coyotes, and other things that I might not see before it is too late. I'm doing my first Night Cache Saturday. I'll tell you what I think.

No ammo cans lost their lives in construction of this cache! That would be a total abuse of my ideal cache container! Okay. I've been dying to know... Did you rip-off the ones that were in the Latitude 47 blog? That's kind of insulting, Coldgears. I didn't "rip off" anything. I'm sure you read Knowschad's response in the LPC thread. I had not seen that series until you posted it. As I said, all ideas came from my imagination. The intent of the series that this cache is part of was to create a LPC that was interesting, unusual and different, and that is what I tried to do. Thanks to all who had positive comments. My apologies, I had pulled an all-nighter and had been awake for 30 hours at the time of that post. I could not think clearly. I meant to ask if that was your inspiration, not if it was a rip-off.

I could barely get through half of the first page of this mess. I can't believe that people really think that he spoiled anything. I'm 99.9 percent sure that more people other the geocachers know about that spot. I'm also pretty confident in the fact that other people have probably filmed them going down, and uploaded it to youtube. What I am not so sure about, is the fact that everyone who filmed themselves going down there got these messages. It's like watching someone climb up mount Everest and at the end say, "Oh there's a geocache somewhere at the top hear. But it's pointless to show you" and the video ends there. It would spoil the fun of all those who plan on actually climbing mount Everest by that logic... Ridiculous.

No ammo cans lost their lives in construction of this cache! That would be a total abuse of my ideal cache container! Okay. I've been dying to know... Did you rip-off the ones that were in the Latitude 47 blog?

Geolocation based upon IP is unreliable at best. If I were to visit your site from my work computer, it would show me being several hundred miles west of my actual location (and checking it now, it's showing a different physical location than it did a few weeks ago, which was a few hundred to the south). From my smartphone, I appear to be a couple hundred miles to the east, and that one changes over time as well. If you're going to do this (which you really shouldn't, as it most likely does violate the guidelines as well), you can't rely on a simple IP to physical location lookup. All the major web browsers have a geolocation API built in now, not to mention services available on mobile devices to provide the same. Why do you feel it important to limit the people who can find your cache? I want as many people as possible to find mine! First of all, I wasn't trying to limit anything... Second of all, the fact geolocating via IP is unreliable is the reason I already threw away the idea.

Me and "that guy" go geocaching on bike nearly... Every day. However. I'm not sure I'd want to ride on a gravel road when there are plenty of other trails out there near me that are better for bikes.

The driver is my dad... I am used to being disappointed. There have been many times I wanted to continue caching and he couldn't physically do so. I can't really complain though, it's better then no geocaching at all...

Okay. I got my answer. Next weekend (labor day) we are going to spend the day caching in a beautiful small town and end it with a night cache. The next weekend (first one after school starts) we will be doing the power-trail. We are going to do as many as he can handle before leaving. That may mean only 30. The weekend after that we will be going to the Blue Hole in NJ. No more need for discussion now... I have my next 3 weeks planned...

Bear Grylls Cache (mention in the description something about running out of water and having to drink your own urine.) EDIT: You got me all happy that I might be able to find it. What an odd avatar...

Woah, I'm not hiding them. I'm finding them! What is the purpose then of these mysterious film canisters that you are asking for? To replace to missing caches.

Woah, I'm not hiding them. I'm finding them!

This thread can be locked. It's so easy to just manually change the location of your IP... The idea is useless if you can cheat. EDIT: There are bridges now, Washington would be proud!

.12 - .15 miles What do I do? Walk into wal-mart and ask them for 20 film cans? And they just hand them over? Don't they throw them away? Do I have to pre-ask them and pick them up once they collect 20? I'm not sure the driver would ever drive me again if I called him names. The driver does not sound too pleased and think the whole power-trail idea is pointless.

I really want to do a power trail of 138 caches. However, my "chauffeur" has some back injuries, and can't really sit in a car for a long period of time. It is already a 50 mile drive (an hour) to the power trail. Here's whats going on. - Two people - one of them is a driver - one of them the cacher - We are in a Kia - It is a gravel road - 138 caches How long should this take under these circumstances? Hopefully not more then two hours... And can a Kia drive on a gravel road? EDIT: I need a place to get 15-20 spare film cans... Where can I get them free?