ok I am back again but this time I g0t Garmin etrex(vista) and i down loaded a few findings and i went to find them yesteyday and i thought i found one it was a false finding but the downloading was so,so easy to do now i am yet to find my first find and with the help of my new device i am surly to find what i am lo0king for now i g0t the old ones down loaded trying to figure out how to delete the old one that i down loaded yesterday to up load the new ones any way the GARMIN GPS is the the way to go †