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  1. Here is a rule on that challenge page that I found odd: 5) You are welcome to log it multiple times if you reach 50/50 again using *an entirely different set of finds*. I thought allowing multiple logging on a cache page description was ended way back when moving caches were disallowed.
  2. Should GS decide it's ok for a challenge cache to be logged as found by those not meeting the challenge I would immediately archive my challenge caches. I put in a lot of effort to qualify for my challenges before publishing them and will not let anyone that hasn't log them. You'd better go and archive them now, because they all appear to have been found and logged by a number of people who haven't qualified. http://coord.info/GLGZ423F http://coord.info/GLGBV5V1 http://coord.info/GLGBDRPH http://coord.info/GLGZ40GT These are Note logs. This is allowed by HQ for people who are working toward completion and happen to be in the area of the final. They will log finds after completing the requirements.
  3. Which one was that? The first Delorme I was aware of is the Northern California one. That is correct. The current Description, in order to comply with the Guidelines, is a mere shadow of it's former self. I'm not sure about the "shadow" part. The challenge is the same, the current description has much more detail, more clearly states the challenge perameters and has added helpful links. The original owner wrote a clean, basic and quite humorous page - she was good at that and her cache logs were fun to read too. The current page is a result of the many questions that can pop up with a complex challenge. It is a fun challenge. The coordinates were moved around in order to introduce this fun challenge to other parts of the state. I don't see why it would have been an annoyance as it was easy enough to put it on our watchlists - it's been on mine for about 11 years. Final containers for challenges had not yet become a requirement so moving it around did not present any physical problems for completing the challenge. I'm not sure what I think about going back to "virtual" challenges, as you say. Maybe it would be a good idea but it seems like some level of committment would be lost. I got bored quickly with chasing down finals for challenges we qualified for years ago, especially when they are duplicated in multiple areas of our state and the ones next door too. I doubt, though, that I would start virtually logging the same set of qualifying caches over and over if the final requirement were dropped. I love the DeLorme and County challenges particularly because they encouraged us to visit all parts of the states we chose to explore. I agree with this moratorium. It is good to step back and take a serious look at lack of "wow factor" in the many weird challenges that are popping up. The good ones are getting buried.
  4. Posted to an Event cache: Our CM team came to Plante's Ferry Park for some geocaching and the Meet and Greet but what we didn't realize is that there would be free beer and wine and dancing with a live band. We reveled on but, man, this really cut into our cache machine production for the day. We didn't complete the route until 2:30am. I think that was because our hired designated driver didn't know what he was doing. I mean, how hard could it be to get to the next stop when you have four people giving very explicit instructions all at once? Or maybe it had something to do with the fact that we kept falling out of the car at each stop. One member could only crawl to each cache but his name will not be mentioned on these pages. Anyway, where was I? Oh, yes. We really enjoyed the lunch and we plan on donating an amount equal to 15% of our bail fees to the WSGA-IEC for the great time that was had by all. We sort of got in trouble when we broke into the Timber Creek Grill Buffet for the CM dinner event after the route was done. Cross my heart and hope to die, we really thought Travis had booked the place for an all-night party. I guess we were wrong. So thank you IE Chapter for this wonderful event. You guys really rock over here. Edit: Names removed to limit unsolicited legal advice.
  5. Saw a trailer just like yours while camping last week at Millersylvania. Pretty cool. The family said it was very easy to set up at each stop.
  6. Yes. Give it some time. If the CO was not active and the cache appeared to be abandoned than that would be a different story.
  7. As do I. And yeah, I'm getting an impression that is the biggest gripe being expressed by the OP. Yes, it is my biggest concern. Yet many people here are telling you that plastic BAGS are RARELY used as geocaching containers. I hope you will understand the distinction between a plastic bags and a sturdy firm plastic container. Maybe 10 or 15 times I've seen a plastic bag intentionally used by a cache owner in over 7000 finds. Sometimes bags are added later by someone who mistakenly thinks it will keep water out (they actually hold moisture in) or by someone temporarily protecting a damaged container or a logbook from a missing container and thereby giving the owner time to fix the problem. These, too, are rare. There are some small plastic bags intentionally used for containers that are most often wrapped heavily in duct tape or camo tape and then placed in a crack in a post or in open masonry joints. These are few in number and very rare in remote areas. You have not acknowledged the distinction between plastic BAGS and durable plastic CONTAINERS and that makes me wonder if you think there are thousands upon thousands of thin plastic bags placed by geocachers that are out there shreading in the elements. You can rest assured that this is NOT the case. And I, for one, am hoping that you might come to understand what most of us are trying to tell you. We love this game and most cache owners want their containers to be sturdy and survive. When we see a problem of the type you are concerned about we take actions to help get it corrected such as posting a log that the cache Needs Maintenance or Needs (to be) Archived. If the owner does not respond and the cache container is no longer viable then people will typically remove the remains. And that is why we use sturdy containers, report problems and pick up loose items not protected by a sturdy container. And these areas typically have fewer problems and far fewer visitors. Your concerns have been addressed here by people who have a lot of caching experience. I, too, am sorry for the unsocial comments you have received here but I am also frustrated that you seem to be missing many comments that address your concerns. Your aparent assumptions of this game and how it is played don't to match what we know as the reality. Plastic shreading and blowing around the countryside is NOT what is happening. Please try to understand that.
  8. If you don't have a regular "quality" cache that predated a desert power trail that later surrounded it then I don't see this as a realistic concern. Quality caches still seem to get respect. Example I would not exactly call this a power trail.
  9. Please add a photo when you can. Would love to see your adventure rig.
  10. I just tested this on a cache I forgot to fave and it worked as it normally has for me. Refreshing the page shows the added count and when I click on it again the options I get is "remove from your favorites". This could be a momentary glitch. See what happens if you try it now.
  11. I believe I understand the anti-power trail sentiments continually presented in the forums. When I first saw the Route 66 power trail I thought "this is the end of geocaching as we know it". And when it hit the 29 mile rails-to-trails path a block from our house I really thought the sky was about to fall. I gave it a lot of thought and read of the fun adventures people were having and gradually a different perspective came to me. It is just a different part of the game. I've kept my standards about what a find is and how our caches should or should not be hidden and the existence of power trails has not changed my love of the game. Our trail was archived when the CO left town and has been taken over by several local cachers. We've added a good mix of container types and "quality" caches, all about 530' apart and people love it for walking and biking caching. I've been to the ET and R66 trails and chose to find a whopping 77 caches by car, 25 on bike and 10 walking after dark. I had a ball! (And we spent the night at The Little A'Le'Inn including a famous Alien Burger dinner!) I don't really see how an 800-in-a-day challenge presents a problem in Austria, New England or anywhere else other than that initial negative emotional response I also had. If you don't have a regular "quality" cache that predated a desert power trail that later surrounded it then I don't see this as a realistic concern. Quality caches still seem to get respect.
  12. I don't really see a problem here. Just how many people are actually going to find 1000 caches in one day by any method? I suspect the percentage of active cachers that qualify for this one-day-one-k challenge is very, very low. And how many of those people are actually going to fudge finds by using the wrong date or use teams in separate cars splitting up the route and all log all caches as found? Trying to hold power trail caching to the same standard as non p-t caching is just not going to be very productive if the goal is to get people to change through peer pressure. It's like the topics/threads where people used to complain about the use of the word muggles and wanting it to stop. The momentum is just too great for a few people to change it.
  13. snip I don't think it's about being "sloppy" with verification, it's about being open to logging practices that probably wouldn't fly with someone placing a "find 100 terrain 5 caches" kind of challenge. I see what you mean. You are not talking about verification, it is the method people use to find caches. I should have seen that.
  14. So if the challenge CO did have rigorous standards hardly anyone would qualify? Your comment seems more to imply that people with over 1000 finds in one day are cheating in some way rather than the CO being sloppy with the verification. Since the stats pages include our best-day count the CO's verification is actually very easy.
  15. Nice adventure! This should be loads of fun.
  16. Not sure what you mean by add it manually. Do you know that from the cache page you can click on the Favorites count bar drop-down menu and then click the "Add to your favorites" link?
  17. You might have an interesting point here. It is not one I would support but... ...this is NOT the way to present the idea if you want to be taken seriously. You haven't been around long enough to understand just how hard it can be to be a reviewer. Lazy? What do you know about how they do their jobs? You are thinking mainly about what you want to have happen rather than looking at the bigger picture and trying to understand how things work.
  18. What does this mean? FTF runs? Archive the cache after the FTF?
  19. Yes, this is what I miss from the earlier years and it was almost standard practice. For tough hides or hides you just couldn't see, a couched hint, often found in one of the five logs the download gave you, was just enough to make the find substantially on you own. With the smartphone as a backup (I'm still a dedicated gps user) I can now dig back the 42 logs it might take to find something that helps. Yep. That is why we play the game. I am curious about how big a problem this actually is. I see Tons of TFTCs and CandPs but not a whole lot of direct spoilers. Maybe I am ignoring them. It does downgrade a good thoughtfully hidden cache to accidentally read exactly how it is hidden so I won't harp on people who want to delete those logs. As for a green bison tube in a wall of ivy hide, though, I say bring on the spoilers!
  20. Exactly. Some new people still need to be gently trained just like in the days of old. The rate is higher now, though, due to the ease of access to the game and the minimal financial commitment needed to get started. We are seeing more people doing stuff we never would have thought of. And with this ease of access often comes a lesser commitment from the new players. It is harder to tell now which of the newbies are serious about the game and which are trying it out on a lark with the free phone app and not likely to go very far. We spent a long caching day recently with two people that started out with phone apps and are now dynamite cachers deeply committed to the game and having an absolute ball. They were a joy to cache with. They want to do it right and highly respect the experienced cachers they meet. I can imagine how a couple of cold log deletions in their first months of geocaching would have made them feel and I don't like the thought of it. This wave of newbies might be frustrating to us, and it can be very frustrating, but we can't be so impatient with them that it leads us act unkindly.
  21. I am very impressed that as a new user of the free phone app you care about a geocoin's (aka trackable) goal. This is good to see.
  22. That's great. My average was 75 words and stayed like that for about a decade. I don't know if it still is. I might play with BG to see what it is now. I am still writing in a paper notebook. The 62s is awkward and the Colorado is even more awkward and I have been hesitant to grub up the phone or get it wet but maybe this will inspire me. Yep. That is 1/3rd of the fun in this game - the cache communication. We just had a 114 cache weekend (with 700 miles driving) and I perused almost every cache at home when I logged. I know this is not for everybody and I don't care if people don't write anything. It is just a fun part of the way I do the game.
  23. Your "top" worked for me. Here's the full snippet of code for those interested in adding their DNF count to their profile. The "left" value will have to be adjusted individually based on one's number of finds and logged trackables. This worked great. Thanks! :)
  24. Yes, that is certainly the case around here each time a big change happens but I don't recall changes ever being a major problem.
  25. My dad gave us a Garmin eMap in the spring of 2001 before we knew about geocaching. Late in the year we went after our first six caches and we didn't even know what a waypoint was. We just lined up the North coords and moved around until the West zeroed out. Downloading cache waypoints must have been available around that time because I don't recall entering many cache waypoints by hand. Paperless was not available yet. December of 2002 We made a trip from Eureka to Seattle to Las Vegas and I printed out 163 caches at 3 or 4 pages each. That was a looottt of paper! We found 61 caches for the trip. Afterward I removed all the staples of the un-found cache pages and printed on the back sides for the next several outings. By summer of 2004 paperless caching was underway. We still used our non-auto-routing eMap but added an HP PDA with Easy GPS for waypoints and the venerable Spinner to prepare the downloaded webpages for the PDA. Here is the equipment that Wienerdog and Team Sagefox used during the two-day Portland (OR) Cache Machine: Garmin III (or maybe it's a IV), Garmin V, Garmin 60c, Garmin 60cs, Garmin eMap, four HP PDAs, two-way radios, printed CM route, Diet Pepsi and other assorted fun stuff. Sometime in 2004 We bought a 60cs and made the jump to auto-routing which was a major improvement. I no longer needed to have my head in the electronic map to see where to turn. I even learned how to fall down with a GPS and PDA both in one hand and not drop them. But the best improvement we made was buying the Colorado and the 62s. A GPS with the web page info - man, we love it! We also use a Garmin Nuvi to auto-route to each cache. I do use a smartphone now but only to augment. I still love the GPS technology. Last weekend we cached all day with some people who primarily use smartphones and they are very good at it. With a PQ in the phone they had everything they needed. I always appreciated whatever improvements came along for mapping and downloading no matter how awkward they may seem to us today. GSAK has been a lot of fun since I attended a GSAK workshop sponsored by the Washington State Geocachers Association. There I learned a few tricks to make some sense of that powerful database program and now feel very comfortable with the little bit I can do with it. Those early days were "the good old days" and today's caching is tomorrow's good old days. We are having a ball with this game. Edit: equipment list.
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