instafar

He he he... I just proposed to my congressman that all light post skirts be bolted down for public safety. (edited to let you know I was joking) But I am thinking about it. TG, I have on my flamethrower armor. Not to worry.

No you have not. Instafar and TrailGators did. No sbell, I did not suggest banning anything. Read every one of my posts again and you will see. This is another example of when you are continually reading into what other posters are trying to say. You have done it over and over throughout this thread. If you read my posts you would see that I am not against a micro cache, I am not against an urban cache, and I am not against a parking lot cache. I gave an example of a great parking lot cache that was next to a mall that you even responded too. All I am saying is that I wish placers just added "something" to their cache. The something being one of the following, a great location, and educational location, an interesting container, an interesting log book, something interesting in the cache. That is my wish. I understand that you don't care about that part. For you it is fun to nail a find in a busy location. I understand that and support you. People can place caches in lots all over and they CAN do it and make it just a little interesting with a little thought. I think that is what Trailgators and Kit agree with me on even though they are burned out from the parking lots and choose not to do them any more. Stoned, you do need to learn to spell, it is more than typos... Prolly is not a word and you have used it more than once.

I thought I was clear on that in my other posts. I would think "Why here?". As I said, this placer answered that question for me the moment I opened the cache. Sometimes the question is answered before you find the cache because of where you are.

Point taken. You are right, they all deserve to exist if that is where someone wants to place them. I will just try my best to weed them out.

Agreed. I am just asking for a little thought into the placement or the contents. Example: Micro cache found in the parking lot of a nice big mall. The posting said kid friendly so I brought my kids. Inside the cache was a log and some tokens/coins used for rides on a huge merry-go-round in the food court of the mall. So, if you happen to bring your kids you could treat them to a ride compliments of the cache placer. We rode the merry-go-round and added even more tokens to the cache. Just a little thought added to where and why it was placed and there you have it, an urban parking lot cache that has a little imagination to make it interesting.

Victim? ? ..?!? TrailGater a "Victim" based on that comment. I think not. Over 9,500 posts... Half of which are combative or meaningless. And anyone who thinks that I just made a combative and not factual comment, go read through the threads and see for yourself.

You say it is/was dead, but you keep adding to it when it comes up. No one is forcing you to read or reply.Hmmm. I would think that there is a difference in replying to a post when the thread is in the top three or four on the first page and replying when it has fallen off the top few pages of threads. For instance, I'm replying to your post because the thread is at the top of the page. If it had fallen down the page, I wouldn't have replied, even though your post referenced mine. So, if I follow your logic and apply it to Geocaching, then I should always just find the caches that come up on the top of the list when I put in my home coordinates even if they are not the most interesting ones on the list... Smart... You say to me - ignore the caches that are in urban parking lots if I don't like them. Fair enough, then I say to you - ignore the threads that you don't like and quit posting to them. Let the rest of us who have interest in this carry on our conversations.

You say it is/was dead, but you keep adding to it when it comes up. No one is forcing you to read or reply. I will agree with you though that there seems to be two very different reasons why people geocache. Some people cross over into both realms. I will accept that and leave it as it is.

I have really appreciated your comments throughout all of this thread TrailGators. You seem to understand what I am really trying to get at. Thanks I don't want to avoid all the urban micros though because a lot of them are thought out so well and very interesting and challenging. There is actually one just 1/4 mile from this one that was outstanding. The only way to know is to go to the site and see. That is when the original questions that I started the post with hits me... "Why here?" I look around and I am boggled... Thanks for the support. Later Gator.

Are you sure? Why did you feel driven to post this if you are tolerant of different viewpoints? Let me clarify... My comment was about all the different styles of Urban Micro Caching. There are a lot of creative ways caches can be placed. A lot of them were pointed out in the topic. That is the input I have enjoyed. Also, I am not saying I can not tolerate others that like a lamp post skirt. I am just saying I don't get it. It is a parking lot... between a freeway, a Wal-Mart, a McDonalds, and a busy side street. What is the interest? What is the excitement of the find? I just don't connect with it and I wanted to see if others agree... Okay. (That is my opinion and I don't feel I have been intolerable)

I like this comment. It remotely lends itself to this discussion... -------------------------------------------- November 29, 2006 by Master Instigator I am in the process of removing all of my cache containers. It is apparent that original interesting caches are frowned upon so I am clearing space for more %@!& micros. I am looking to have two of them adopted Last of the Manitoba Ents, I am the walrus and because I was not the original owner of them. Even though the caches are disabled you may still find and log them until I physically remove the container. -------------------------------------------- This is from cache GCP6JN. Sounds like you have to avoid wolves, rivers with ice, and deep snow along the way. I know we don't have all of these creative challenges in Houston, but there has got to be better places than lamp post skirts in parking lots. I am not against urban micro caches that you have to be careful when finding so you are not seen, I am just confused why a Wal-Mart parking lot would be an exciting place to put a cache... Thanks for all the input. I learned a lot of different view points.

Thanks Kit Fox. I really like this idea. You have each given me a slightly different viewpoint of these caches (which is the purpose of the forums). A lot to chew on. Thanks for the input and keep it coming.

Living in Houston, TX you can imagine that most of the caches around me are urban micro caches. Some of them are hidden in wonderful places that show me interested or beautiful parts of the city that I might not have ever found on my own. More and more though I am running into caches that are just placed in terrible spots. As I find the cache I look around and wonder why in the world would someone place a cache here??? It is not fun, exciting, interesting, beautiful, or educational. Here is an example of one I just found 1 hour ago. The cache was a micro cache (rolled up log book in a film canister) that was hidden in the base of a light pole in the middle of a Walmart parking lot. First of all, while driving to it you already know exactly were it has to be... can't hide it in the pavement. Second, the only way to get to it without looking suspicious is to pretend to be talking on your cell phone next to your parked car. Third, lifting the base collar on a light pole could be both dangerous and concidered tampering with private property. This is just one example of an urban microcache that just does not fit the whole purpose behind the Geocaching game. There are so many out there as silly as this one. Don't get me wrong, I have found so many others that are very interesting and unuasual, but how do we get cache placers to put a little effort into where and why they are hiding a cache? I would love to hear what others have to say about this issue. Or maybe you don't see it as a big deal... comments...

I'm 100% Norwegian. Born and raised in Minnesota, now living in Texas. Avatar is a cross between Geocaching logo and Norway Flag.

Got it!!! These are great sites that do exactly what I want. Now, can anyone tell me how I find out the Elevation of my Home Waypoint and the pressure so that I can calibrate my Altimeter. Thanks for the help.

Get boots without seams. Full leather uppers. They will last longer. Something similar to what Bobthearch posted above.

How about making a home-made Caching Coupon book. "One free Satuday of Geocaching" "One free hiking boot cleaning" "One day of complaining free companion geocaching" ... you get the idea Or a certificate for a weekend stay at a ranch or a lodge not to far away where there are some caches in the area that he/she has not found yet. Trying to be creative. Hope this helps.

I did a little searching in the Forums before posting this but did not find what I was looking for. I am looking for a tool or a web site that will allow you to type in an address and it will give you a ballpark decimal coordinate that you can then set as a waypoint in a GPSr to navigate to that address. I know that an address is a large location compared to the pin point of a coordinate, but it would put me within the vicinity of the location. Any help would be great. (It is probably so obvious, but I am new and trying to figure it out) Thanks.

I was debating between the Vista C and the 60CS. Went into REI and tested the two out. Seem to work about the same software wise. I know the 60CS has a quad antenna so the reception may be better in heavy cover. But I tell you what, the compactness of the Vista C / or Legend C is unbeatable for hiking, backpacking and geocaching. I went with the Vista C from Costco for $330.00. Works great.

Just got my receiver yesterday... The same things is happening to me. I can not change the settings. EasyGPS is not talking to my Vista C. There is not even an option for Vista C in EasyGPS just Vista. When I try to send a waypoint to the unit I get the following error. "No data was received from the GPS Error #22" How can I fix this problem. I am desperate to get some help here. Thanks Found the solution... This is from another thread... _________________________________________ QUOTE (bajabum @ Dec 7 2004, 11:39 AM) I just got a message form EasyGPS which told me to list my Legend C as GPMAP 60C and it seems to work. They don't have the Legend C listed in their choices to use when you setup and so you have to use GPSMAP 60C. Just got my Vista C... Could not figure out why Vista C was not in the list for selecting a GPS, tried the Vista setting and it did not work. After reading this thread, I tried the GPSMAP 60CS setting and it worked like a charm... it is all because of the USB connection. Thank you all so much for the info. I was going MAD for a while. Happy Cacher now... _________________________________________ Hope this helps others using the Color Legend or Vista...

Just got my Vista C... Could not figure out why Vista C was not in the list for selecting a GPS, tried the Vista setting and it did not work. After reading this thread, I tried the GPSMAP 60CS setting and it worked like a charm... it is all because of the USB connection. Thank you all so much for the info. I was going MAD for a while. Happy Cacher now...

Just got my receiver yesterday... The same things is happening to me. I can not change the settings. EasyGPS is not talking to my Vista C. There is not even an option for Vista C in EasyGPS just Vista. When I try to send a waypoint to the unit I get the following error. "No data was received from the GPS Error #22" How can I fix this problem. I am desperate to get some help here. Thanks

Great! I am eagerly awaiting your package getting to you! Will check back. Appreciate your input.

Anyone use the Garmin Carry Case for the eTrex line with the Vista C or the Legend C? I know the eTrex color GPS units are a little wider and shorter, just wondering if it still fits nicely in the carry case like the other eTrex models. Does the plastic window allow you to see the whole screen? Thinking about ordering one for my Vista C but wanted to know if anyone has used it specifically with the color units. Thanks

It is arriving on Friday (Dec 3)... I am excited about learning how to use all the features. Anyone use the Garmin Carry Case for the eTrex line with the Vista C or the Legend C? I know the eTrex color GPS units are a little wider and shorter, just wondering if it still fits nicely in the carry case like the other eTrex models. Does the plastic window allow you to see the whole screen. Thinking about ordering one here Garmin eTrex Carry Case but wanted to know if anyone has used it specifically with the color units. Thanks