Snake & Rooster

When I first glanced at this picture, I thought it was Santa Claus in the back. I'm not sure what this means. Maybe it is just getting close to Christmas. Maybe I am drinking too much coffee. Maybe my eyes are getting bad.

That's not too far from my old stomping grounds. I don't miss cottonmouths or copperheads. Plus they have Poison Oak, Poison Ivy, Poison Sumac and Virginia Creeper. I was a mess with that stuff when I was a kid. here's another OBTW...don't try to shave your legs when you have chiggers bites...OMG....that hurt...and I ran out of little bandaids!!!! No..I'm not blonde! Thanks for sharing, Jodi

Harmon: We are both saddened by your false accusation. How can you think such us capable of such a fell deed? We are contemplating geocide.

I thought I was the only one with this "problem". I like the arrow and my wife likes the map. If I hand the GPS to her with the compass screen, she shoves it back at me saying, Here . . . "I don't know what to do with this."

"Where to?" "My locations" "Delete all" This will delete all POIs that you've entered, and all waypoints. Did "Where to" but don't have anything listed as "my locations" Have Favorites, Recently found, Addresses, Points of Interest,Intersections,Cities,Browse Maps and Coordinates. No "my Locations" This is a Nuvi 200 Series. Thanks anyway. My 360 must have a slightly different interface. I have a "My Locations" that contains any custom POIs, and geocaches that I've entered, as well as Favorites, Recent Selections and Go Home. I didn't realize that different series had different menus.

True, it was and is a vocal minority who got the attention, but what about the silent majority of scientists who happen to agree with that vocal minority...? Incidently, Abbott is right that the Earth has been warming slowly as part of a normal cyclic nature. It's the unusual uptick in warming rate that has not appeared in previous cycles and that correlates quite strongly to the uptick in burning the burning of fossil fuels that's gotten peoples' attention. The source of the debate on this is that we don't really have a good handle on how much is caused by the normal cycle and how much is human caused. And if this was just in interesting scientific exercise, it'd be no big deal. But instead, there is legitimate public policy debate on how much money to spend on fixing this (or not fixing this, as the case may be). On one side, you've got the vocal minority of scientists for whom no amount of money is going to be enough and on the other side, you've got an equally vocally minority who insist that there is no problem and therefore we shouldn't spend any money solving the problem. What I've never understood, though, is why people get all bent out of shape about this? Somehow each side has made it a religion. It makes it hard to have a constructive discussion about it... Anyway, now that others have hung out their position and I've chimed in with mine, can we take this debate elsewhere and let this thread get back to what's really important -- namely, lighthearted geocaching-related bantering? There's lots of places to listen to the conspiracy theories of both sides of the global-warming debate but very few where we can go around photoshopping unbunched socks... James, that wasn't my position. It was Coleman's. I was just sharing something that we seldom hear these days, which is the other side of the coin. So it was interesting to me, so I shared it with you guys. My position is that until science has a good working theoretical model that explains all the variables and how they interact, it's premature to draw conclusions. However, it just occured to me that if we are all pushing our socks down, it must because it's getting warmer! Nor did I "hang out my position" on global warming (or lack thereof). I was relaying Abbott's view as given in a class I took, since it supports the article that Coleman wrote. As to my views on unbunched socks, Rooster has trained me that unless I am trying to add additional protection against ticks on a hike, I should never pull up my socks. You'll not find me as Harmon fodder here.

Twelve years ago, I took a geology course at SDSU taught by Pat Abbott. I remember that he addressed this issue, saying that there was no consensus on global warming. Rather, a vocal minority of scientists had captured the attention of the media and politicians. It was his opinion that while the Earth was indeed warming slowly, it was because we have just reached the end (geologically speaking) of an ice age. It was normal that the Earth was warming and humans had little, if anything to do with it. Of course publicly saying this will brand you as a heretic.

"Where to?" "My locations" "Delete all" This will delete all POIs that you've entered, and all waypoints.

I've also noticed the slow scrolling in MapSource since the update. I thought I was imagining it. I haven't noticed any of the other problems though. I normally plot out cache runs using MapSource, with Topo US 2008 when necessary. I view in Google Earth when I need information about trails or parking, much as you do, Harmon. I do like the way that your waypoints don't "move around" in Google Earth like the cache icons that you get with the kml file. The cache is actually located where the wp says it is.

I just used Garmin's webupdater to check my GPS's. I'm pretty good about regularly looking for updates, but I found updates for my Oregon, my Nuvi, and my 60CSx. Only the Colorado was up-to-date. When was the last time YOU checked?

For rather obvious reasons . . .

Based on a quick look at their home page, the OP has some issues with both the GS forums, and Groundspeak itself. That aside, the "bat" signature, location of Transylvania, and occupation of Fluidic Control Specialist shows that he has a sense of humor.

I'm not sure why you are having so much trouble figuring out the test. Here, let me explain: ywspf tz epbmw yi.xyuvwa qpo vhhpxdit xyzppy dkf wp qhccryxng? Should explain it all.

So I guess the old adage about "vote early and vote often" doesn't apply.

Delete! I say y' gotta hold 'em t' score 'em. I agree. They actually want us to delete them: Cache Maintenance The cache owner will assume all responsibility of their cache listings. The responsibility of your listing includes quality control of posts to the cache page. Delete any logs that appear to be bogus, counterfeit, off topic, or not within the stated requirements. Well, in that case... deleted six logs tonight, all cachers from Germany. Once cacher actually "borrowed" a picture from a previous cacher's log in their post! Cheeky monkey! D! It's mostly the Germans who do this, but I know of at least two Americans who should know better, that do the same thing.

Awwwwwww! Can't you just hear her asking for a new brother?

Email your local reviewer, give him or her the coordinates where you'd like to place your cache, and ask if it will pass the proximity guidelines.

That's great to hear Skillet. Have you considered moving our two mile stretch of CITO highway from ABDSP to Ocotillo Wells? That is exactly what I was thinking! I'd actually be willing to come back and pick up trash again if you can get it moved. What better way to reward OWSVRA for being caching friendly?

Delete 'em D! I''m not sure, but I think I heard where some virtuals were archived when owner's refused to delete erronious logs. As to the new Golden puppy . . . quick . . . go out and get another one right away! They love each other's company and once they reach the destructive age, they will have each other to play with, instead of your shoes, baseboards, chairs . . . well, you get the idea. And heck, in for a penny; in for a pound.

Unless I am under dense vegetation or next to some reflective surface, I typically find most caches within 10 feet of their posted coordinates, often closer, sometimes a bit farther. Based on the responses I usually see to this question, I am in an extremely rare minority--and happy with that.

I got a Oregon 300 yesterday and setup the menus and did some comparisons yesterday afternoon. Firing up the 60, the CO and the OR and checking the locations given, it seems that the 60 and the OR were almost the same, ususally with a bit of difference in latitude and dead on the same for longitude. The CO was always a bit farther off on both. I tried it out today with half a dozen caches. I did not take an other GPS with me and depended solely on the OR. I had no troubles with it, either seeing the screen (the tilt described by LLOT helps) or finding GZ. Switching between on-road and off-road navigation via profiles was quick and easy. Looking at descriptions and hints or changing between map and compass pages, or logging a cache as found is a piece of cake. I believe it may replace the 60CSx as my favorite GPS. I am very impressed and will likely sell my CO. I should mention that I installed the entire US City Nav maps, and TOPO for Southern Cal and AZ. I set it up to default to City Nav for on-road navagating and Topo for off-road. Both work like a charm.

Thanks James. One last question, "How would you evaluate the readability of the screen?".

Tarantulath are your friendth. The Navajo used to live in what is now known as the Canyon de Chelly National Park, this contains an amazing monolith of rock 800 feet high known as 'Spider Rock'. This rock according to Navajo legends was the home of 'Old Mother Tarantula' or 'Spider Woman'. Mixed up with this are stories of a spider who would climb down from the rock to catch children and carry them back to the top to eat. Navajo mothers apparently told their children that the outcroppings of white quartz at the top of the monolith were the bones of disobedient children who were more likely to be caught by the spider. This doesn't seem very friendly to me, Harmon. Perhapth Navajoth are not your friendth. Disobedient children being eaten by Old Mother Tatarantula, ith that a good thang or a bad thang? Hmmm? A good thang. And I like children, though I cannot usually finish a whole one by myself. In a W.C. Fields movie he was asked "How do you like children?" He answered "Well done." So are you related to W.C. Fields? , Well, actually Jonathan Swift--certainly a man of rare vision

Did my mother send this to you ?

Tarantulath are your friendth. The Navajo used to live in what is now known as the Canyon de Chelly National Park, this contains an amazing monolith of rock 800 feet high known as 'Spider Rock'. This rock according to Navajo legends was the home of 'Old Mother Tarantula' or 'Spider Woman'. Mixed up with this are stories of a spider who would climb down from the rock to catch children and carry them back to the top to eat. Navajo mothers apparently told their children that the outcroppings of white quartz at the top of the monolith were the bones of disobedient children who were more likely to be caught by the spider. This doesn't seem very friendly to me, Harmon. Perhapth Navajoth are not your friendth. Disobedient children being eaten by Old Mother Tatarantula, ith that a good thang or a bad thang? Hmmm? A good thang. And I like children, though I cannot usually finish a whole one by myself.