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I just purchased this new about a few months ago. It works great, but I just don't find that I'm using it that much since my Blackberry is sufficient and more convenient. I paid ~$250 and will sell it for $180 (firm), shipping included. It comes with everything a new unit would. I've kept the box and everything that came with it. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks. JP

Thanks, but it doesn't appear to function like this. It will continue to navigate once you are "there", it just seems easier to understand where "there" is with this program than the 60csx.

I've been using a Blackberry Bold with Geocache Navigator for some time and it makes for an incredible geocaching tool. However, after reading through many posts on this forum I noticed so many were using the Garmin 60csx and praised its ability, especially the fact that it has 3-axis magnetic compass, that I decided to buy one. I haven't been terribly impressed and I'm trying to understand whether I'm missing anything. Yes, it will allow you to stay in one place and point at which direction the geocache is at, but it appears to me to have a pretty wide range of error. I have calibrated the GPS a few times now. However, I find that the arrow sort of takes me all over the place as I get near. It does get me close, but not as close as my Blackberry with the Geocache Navigator which doesn't have a magentic compass. With Geocache Navigator I can easily get to a point where I say, "I'm there" and start looking without the GPS. I don't have this with the 60csx. There never seems to be that "I'm there" moment based on how the compass sort of continually takes you wandering around a somewhat large area (sometimes maybe 20 feet in diameter). It could just be me, but I would like to hear from others using the 60csx. Do you find it incredibly accurate? Do you witness operating in a similar fashion? Could I possibly be using it incorrectly and is there a specific way most use it as you get close to the cache (I pretty much use the same screen, I might page through a few some times, but to my knowledge there is really only one screen you want to be using as you get close)?

Oh wait. I did find benchmark hunting. Are all those definitively accurate and precise?

I would love to try this between my Blackberry Bold and Garmin 60csx. Can you point me to where these are exactly on geoaching.com? I seem to be having trouble finding it.

I did just read some information around averaging waypoints so I need to try that. I guess my original question still stands though. Would Google's coords be just as accurate? They seem pretty close to me so far.

I've only found about 40 caches since I started Geocaching early this year so I still consider myself a newbie, however, with the help of my little ones I would like to go ahead and try to hide my first cache. I've bought some nice ammo containers, printed out good log books, and filled them with some nice trade items. So I'm ready to hide, but I want to ensure once I post the location is that the coords are as accurate as possible. There is nothing more frustrating than looking for a cache when the coords are 40 feet off and I wouldn't want to subject others to that. Anyway, I typically use a Blackberry Bold for Geocaching and I just bought a Garmin 60CSX. What I never expected was that the Blackberry seems to be every bit as accurate as the 60CSX. I've actually found on a few occasions the Blackberry will put me closer to the cache given its nice "radar" function with Geocache Navigator. So I did a few tests with both devices, marked the waypoints, and then put them in to Google Maps. What I found was that the coords both devices registered weren't all that accurate. They seem to do a better job of locating rather than actually returning your accurate location. Ultimately, I'm starting to wonder whether it might be more accurate to use Google Maps to obtain the coords if I can see the location from the satellite images. I tried a test doing this and it seemed to work very well, but since I know there are plenty of ohers on the forum with a great deal of experience doing this I thought I would ask what you thought. Is there any one of school of thought on how to do this to try and offer the geocaching community the most accurate and precise coords possible?

I might be mistaken All kidding aside, I understand what you are saying. What I find surprising to me is that I can't seem to find any increased accuracy with the 60csx over the Blackberry. If you couple the Blackberry then with all the added functionality it gives you with arial maps, paperless caching, and just simply the ability to enjoy geocaching anywhere at a moment's notice without any prep work it beats the 60csx pretty well. I think a true test might be a geocache I've been trying for that is deep in the woods. It will take some bushwacking to get to it. If the Blackberry appears to perform the same in a side-by-side test to the 60csx I'll hard pressed to understand where the 60csx or probably and stand alone GPS I know of wins over the Blackberry Bold.

I got excited about a single device solution. Sold my Garmin GPSMap 60CSx and bought the Blackberry Curve 8310. Slow. Cranky. Pretty much restricted to big-city urban caching where you can get a high-speed signal. Maps suck, period. (I've tried quite a lot of them). Apps suck. I've tried all of them, legal and otherwise. Have found myself unable to get a signal and therefore unable to get cache info when I wanted to cache, including at GeoWoodstock 7 and at several events since then. That was embarrassing - Here I am a fairly experienced cacher asking folks "Hey, my GPS toy won't work, can I follow you to the cache?" Um, no. Went to the country's largest caching event and couldn't cache. I'm back to using an old Magellan Meridian Gold and it works 100% every time. I want my 60CSx back. Anyone want to trade a 60CSx for a Blackberry? This is funny because I went the opposite direction. I have a Blackberry Bold and used Blackstar at first. It was fine, but upgrading to Geocache Navigator was just astonishing. It just has everything and using the radar gave me pretty good accuracy. I just purcahsed a 60CSX because so many people here said it was one of the best in regards to accuracy. Now that I've used the 60CSX for a month guess which one I would choose? The answer is my blackberry everytime. Yes, the 60CSX can keep a signal if there is a dense tree canopy and the electronic compass is nice, but oddly enough I have found using the radar function with Geocache Navigator puts me almost right on top of the Geocache every time if the coords are good. With the 60CSX it tends to have a pretty big margin of error, maybe +- 9 feet. I've actually given my 60CSX to my six-year old Son for him to use. Where it is a benefit for him is because of the electronic compass. He can stop moving to keep the compass signal which he is apt to do. The Blackberry's compass will bounce around if you aren't moving. Ultimately, why I think you had such a poor experience was due to the Blackberry Curve. It doesn't have nearly the processing power as the Blackberry Bold. Again, my Bold with Geocache Navigator is about the best I've seen so far and that is directly comparing it to the popular 60CSX. Just my 2 cents.

Very good point. In my case I do get in to some wooded areas where the Blackberry has trouble keeping the signal. Even with all this discussion I still went ahead and ordered a Garmin 60csx. My curiousity just got the best of me.

Thanks, this helped me quite a bit!

Would you, really? Imagine if GPS technology was so accurate that you could just walk in the direction of the arrow and watch the counter 3 - 2 - 1 - 0. Stop look down and bingo there was the cache right by your feet? Every time? Personally I think that kind of accuracy would make geocaching much too boring I know what you mean, but that kind technological accuracy is what got me intriqued to get outside and try this sport to begin with. It still gives me a little bit of rush when I'm a mile inside the forest and based on sight alone I know I would have no idea where I am. However, with my blackberry cannot only walk right to where the cache is I can then get quick satellite images of the quickest way out. I guess I just think it is fun to rely on technology like this.

Thanks everyone. You probably saved me the expense of buying a 60csx or the latest model. The Blackberry with Geocache Navigator just allows me so much time doing what I find fun about geocaching and that is, getting out there and doing it. These comments also help me decide on what is probably best as far as a GPS for my six year old son. I know I'm biased, but I feel he picks up on electronic things very fast. I thought I might actually get him a 60csx and the added accuracy might give him an edge over me finding a geocache, you know sort of leading him right to it. Since the margin of error with most of these GPS's being pretty close to my Blackberry I feel more comfortable getting him someting like the Geomate Jr.. He'll probably have almost the same accuracy as he would with a more expensive unit and have the added bonus of being able to use it better since it is more designed for kids. Thanks again.

Ever since I started Geocaching last year I've used a Blackberry 9000 with Geocache Navigator. It has worked well, but the one thing I wouldn't mind having it do better is help with accuracy, but I'm not sure that is even possible and here is why. Aren't all these geocaches only as accurate as the person who enters them on geocaching.com? If this is the case do you really need a GPS that is all that accurate? I find that most times I'm within about 10 feet of most caches. I'm assuming that is typical...right? I would love the thought of my GPS taking me to exactly where the geocache is, but based on the data that is given it is unlikely this happens in most cases...right? If a 60csx would put me on top of the cache most times I would almost certainly want one, but if people are finding that you are still within 10 feet then I think my Blackberry is the best choice. What is your experience?

Yea, interesting discussion here. However, I noticed a lot of talk about the Droid. I've used my Blackberry 9000 with Geocache Navigator ever since I started last year. It is incredible. Completely paperless and my Blackberry is always with me so I can geocache at a moment's notice. It makes everything so effortless. The only thing that has made me possibly want a stand-alone GPS is accuracy. So many times I can't really tell how accurate it really is. Sometimes it is the person who placed the cache that has fuzzy coords. So I'm not always sure. I'm still giving some thought to getting a 60csx since so many appear to love it. I want to see what I'm missing, if anything.

I've managed to hunt down 37 caches in my short career, but still feel pretty much like a newbie. I started using Blackstar with a Blackberry Bold and then stumbled across Geocache Navigator which is made this sport so much more fun for me. I can simply be anywhere and find available caches and I never have to worry about even uploading anything. The app does it all. What it doesn't do is have an electronic compass, which I would really like. So I've been doing some research and it sounds like the Garmin 60csx has been considered the best my most for some time. It seems like a solid investment and I now of some deals going on right now. However, now I'm reading about what I think is the 60csx's replacement, the 62 or maybe it is the 62csx. Ultimately, I'm struggling to understand the geocaching differences between geocache navigator, the 60csx, and its next generation model (62 or 62csx). Does one of these Garmins actually offer the same functionality as Geocache Navigator? I would love to have one device that sort of does it all and I would say Geocache Navigator does a pretty good job of doing that except it falls down when it comes to accuracy. If anyone can help me understand the major differences I would appreciate it.

Newbie Geocacher here. I've been wanting to try geocaching for some time and finally had the opportunity while on vacation in Arkansas. A snow storm came through and my 5 year old Son was a little depressed since fishing wouldn't be possible during the trip. I did some research online, downloaded Blackstar for my Blackberry Bold, and took them cache hunting. It may have been one of the best vacations we've had. The kids had a ball running in to the woods and hunting for caches. My wife even loved it ten times more than she thought she would. She seems hooked now too. Great fun! The Blackberry Bold did a great job of navigating while we were there but the elevation was pretty high and since I was new to this I knew the margin of error would be pretty high. With some caches I found that I was a good 20 - 40 feet away from them. In lieu of this I started thinking the Blackberry might not have a very good GPS in it (does it?) so I started researching dedicated GPS units. The Garmin 60GCX seems to have quite a following and what I like most about it is just how accurate and sensitive it is. However, hits led me to another thought. For those of you with 60GCX do you find them to really be accurate for the caches? How close to the caches do they normally lead you? The reason I wonder about this is how do we know those who are actually leaving the caches have accurate coords? Does it make sense to go to the trouble to buy a 60GCX if the margin of error is pretty high with both devices because of so many other factors? Just curious here I guess. A few other random questions I have are: - Does the 60GCX allow you to be still and pick up accurate coordinates or do you have to be walking? I've found with the Blackberry forward momentum is needed sometimes for it to understand where you are. - I just read some posts regarding Geocache Navigator for the Blackberry. I'm going to see if it is any better than Blackstar. If anyone has any comments regarding either I would appreciate your feedback.