beekayy

Probably only half way around the world. Otherwise you're getting closer again.

People who say fungible over and over again.

I just found out that jerryw38 passed away last week. He was a prolific cacher in the Lodi, California area. He will be missed.

Must have been a big bicycle.

I heard you. Challenge caches are what controlling CO loves! Give them an inch, they will go a mile. I wont care if all challenge caches are archived and banned for life. In fact, I feel it would be a good thing. I did a challenge cache this past may because I was able to. I do challenge myself...but not for challenge caches. A big difference there. My personal opinions about geocaching, its becoming too serious and no fun. This is at least the second time you have made a comment about "controlling CO". Do you really think that some cache owners place caches just to try to control how, where, how long cachers look for them and then revel in said attempts? If so, I can't agree with you.

Yep, same here.

Yup, seems some don't know what it means. Yup, seems some don't know what it means. Around here it's a moving goal post, but it means: "Abide by my personal preferences, which you have no possible way of knowing in advance, and which are completely different from the personal preferences of the next cache owner who will also judge you for your lack of courtesy." So are we supposed to ignore anything in quotes again? And it's not a moving target (as opposed to a moving goal post which is a "stupid" metaphor. Please note the quotes.) Here is what I found regarding the origin of courtesy. Gentle politeness and courtly manners are a big part of it. I wish courtesy was a requirement to post here.

That depends, really. I've seen plenty of folks who are able to churn out descriptive and/or entertaining logs in short order. Folks with a lot higher numbers than myself. It's in quotation marks. So does that mean it's not true or just that you posted it to try to annoy everyone?

I hope everyone reads Geobain's post and takes it to heart. I don't think it could be said better.

Even if you were one of the inventors of GPS technology, if you haven't geocached before, you are a newbie to geocaching. Knowledge of how to use the GPS is only one part of being a geocacher (you know that, of course). But this isn't about who is a newbie and who is an old timer. This is about Groundspeak deciding that they would be better without the presence of several regular posters here and giving them lifelong forum bans. And from the best of our knowledge, the motives have little or nothing to do with recent posts that they've made, having more to do with the number of previous warnings or time-outs, without equally looking at the number of forum posts overall. Forum regulars are, in a large way, another aspect of the volunteer culture that helps Groundspeak run with a relatively low overhead. I think that most are here with the best intentions. But occasionally personalities clash, opinions get expressed, something harmless gets misinterpreted, etc and the member who has spent countless hours here trying to help finds themselves with a warning about their behavior, or perhaps even given a "timeout" (yeah, sounds pretty childish to me, too. Go stand in your corner and think about what you have done and don't come out until I call you) The more a forum volunteer posts, the more likely it is that one of those posts is going to hit somebody wrong and trigger a disciplinary action against them. I queried two posters that I know. One has been banned, one has not, but has received a few warnings/timeouts. One that has been recently banned made 10,134 posts to the forums (since when, I don't know when he started posting). They said he had 7 warnings. That is one warning (or timeout) for every 1,447 posts! Another has made 3,121 posts with approximately 4 disciplinary actions, giving one warning (or timeout) for every 803 posts! This person has not (yet, at least) been banned. I happen to know that the letter that was sent to the banned forum volunteer mentioned above stated that "the average forum poster does not have one warning or timeout". Fair enough: but now, how many posts does the average forum poster have? Does the average poster have 1,447 posts yet? I doubt it. I went on a voluntary hiatus from these forums for a couple of years, only recently returning, very gingerly. I left because several timeouts and warnings that totally blindsided me had me walking on eggshells. I received extreme support from other posters here when I left... something that I still feel very blessed for. Groundspeak, your regulars are your volunteers, not your employees. Most of us have been paid members for years, supporting Groundspeak not only with our dollar, but with hidden geocaches and generally helpful forum work. Thank us and help us, don't "fire" us! I have more to say but I had better post this before the thread goes up in a puff of pink smoke. I guess I'm also a newbie as I've only been here for about six years and only have about 650 finds. As you can tell by my post count I almost never post in the regular forums (or fora) but have made several posts in the Off Topic forum. The reason I don't post in the regular ones is because it seems to me that there are a lot of members who take pleasure in demeaning said newbies and that's just not what I enjoy. I have enjoyed the knowledge that I've learned from several of the "old timers" but now it looks like at least a few and maybe more of them have been banned. That strikes me as unfortunate.

I'm sending all the good vibes I can your way, TAR. Be well!

Here's one that is on a moving object. GCHHB2

jaykayy and I have found that geocaching is a lot like trivia. With trivia, if you know the answer it's easy and if you don't know it it's hard. With geocaching, if you find the cache it's easy but if you don't it's hard. We've been geocaching about three months now and have found about 130 caches. We've quickly found ones that people have logged as hard to find but then have DNFs on ones that people have logged as easy. I guess that what makes it fun for us.

Hello all. I started geocaching while recovering from spinal surgery. I had been a runner and couldn't do that for a while before and after the surgery. So I decided I needed something to get me outdoors and moving, albeit at a slower pace. Joined in January and used my iPhone for a while. I really got the bug and introduced my wife to the game. Fortunately, I am able to run again but continue to keep looking for hidden treasures. I even bought a Garmin 60Cx to use in conjunction with the iPhone. My wife and I attended a local potluck get together earlier this month and met a lot of nice people. I have used the forums to find answers to questions that we have had but I only posted once before this one.