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The unit does paperless extremely well. I had a 200, and I found it easy to read, even in the sun. But, I've had my eyes corrected, so I might not be a good guage. Also, the 5 logs you get is a product of the PQ, and works the same on every paperless GPS. Later!

With DeLorme, any way you get them, you are paying DeLorme. They have software that will allow you to export maps into DeLorme format, but you have to buy that from them, and then make the effort of creating maps. (And, when I had my DeLorme, the absolute cheapest, bare bones version of the software was $100.) Better to buy the subscription. Later!

I'm assuming you to be using Windows. If you use another OS, the directions may need to be altered. 1. Ensure that your PC and GC are powered on. 2. Ensure that your PQ(s) are downloaded, and unzipped into a folder you can find. (I use a folder on my desktop.) 3. Plug the USB cable to the computer and GC. When the option window comes up, select "Connect to PC". 4. A window should pop up in Windows, that gives you options. Choose "Open Folder to View Files". 5. Navigate to the /Geocaches folder ON THE GC. Copy the PQ .gpx file here. 6. Navigate to the Waypoints folder ON THE GC. Copy the wpts.gpx file here. 7. Disconnect the cable, and the GC should restart. You should see all of your caches on the list. 8. Also of note, the GC will hold 10,000 caches. I, however, delete all of the gpx files in mine, and do a clean load every time. Easier for me to keep track of that way. Hope this helps! Later!

I'm not exactly familiar with the new eTrex series, but for most of the paperless models you can drag/drop your .gpx files into the unit. No additional software should be required. Mayhaps someone more familiar can confirm this. Later!

I was playing with these for the Marine Corps in 1996. And, to be completely honest, at that time, I literally put the thing back in my pack, and got out my map/compass, figuring the thing would get me killed. In looking for ammo cans (funny how that hasn't changed much...LOL) I'd get the thing down to about 50 meters, so I'd look around, look back at the thing, and it was saying 2km. I'm glad they've gotten better over the years. PLGR Later!

In place of the Venture, I'd recommend an eXplorist GC, because of the paperless. But, if you have $200, I doubt you can beat the eTrex 20 if you're buying new. Later!

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Not sure how important topo is to you, but we used the routable maps from openstreetmap in our Oregon, exclusively. If I were going to pay for mapping in a Garmin, it'd likely be BirdsEye, so I could use imagery. Later!

I dropped a PN-30 into about a knee deep creek, where it bounced off of the rock at the bottom. The only ill effect was that it got dirty. When someone shows me a phone that I may quite literally have to stake my life on (depending on where you cache, this may not be an issue for you. We try to get out of town when we can.) that can survive that, and still navigate me home, I'll think of using only a phone. Until then, even with the most wiz bang phone, I'll have a GPS with me. Later!

SOLD. Thanks for the interest guys. Later!

Looks like this is selling quickly. I'll post an update if the sale falls through. Thanks!

Heya all. I bought a 60 CSx a few weeks ago right here on the forum, and now I'm offering it up for sale. It is fully functional, and has a screen protector on it. (Honestly, it looks like it's about new.) It comes with the 1GB Micro SD card that came with it, the manual and the quick start guide. (Both hard copy for old school guys. ) I'm also asking the same $150 I paid for the unit, and $10 for shipping via USPS to the US. (If you need it shipped elsewhere, let me know, and I'll see what shipping is.) I've decided that I want a paperless unit, and will likely put the money from this toward a 62s. (I mentioned this possibility in another thread.) If interested, please email me at dazdncnfusd@gmail.com. Thanks!

I may be wrong, but what you need to do is average a waypoint. (Determine a coordinate as accurately as possible.) To do that with the GC, you go to the Waypoint tab, and click Menu. When the menu comes up, select Add Waypoint. You should get a screen called "Create New Waypoint From". Select Current Location. Once the screen loads, it should have a red flag in the top left corner, and say "WPT-#" at the top. Click Menu, and select Set Accurate Position. That will run the waypoint averaging process, and give you an estimation of accuracy on the waypoint. You want that resulting estimation as close to zero as possible, and I'd run it at least twice to make sure. Once you're happy with the accuracy, click Save. I usually go in and rename it to [name]_hide for easier reference later. If this isn't what you were looking for, hope it helps someday. EDIT: After seeing Starbrand's post, I'm adding the following: If you are trying to manually add a waypoint, the process follows: To do that with the GC, you go to the Waypoint tab, and click Menu. When the menu comes up, select Add Waypoint. You should get a screen called "Create New Waypoint From". Select Coordinate. The manual input screen should load, and be fairly self explanitory. Remember to Save when you're done. Later!

However..... The OP was asking about a GPS for geocaching. The ratio of owned units on GEOCACHING.COM is extremely relevant, since the only people posting here are geocachers. And, I have a friend who owns four businesses, and has owned several BMW's and at least one Lexus, and now drives a fully loaded Kia, and says he's happier with it than any luxury car he's ever owned. Personally, I can't afford one, so I wouldn't know. Later!

You might be able to get a geomate jr for that price, used. Any PN-40 you get for anywhere near that will be broken. Since your budget is seriously constrained, get what you can. Any GPS receiver will work for geocaching. The more modern units provide specific support for geocaching (paperless), but you won't find that in the price range you're looking at. The Garmin eTrex 10 can be had just under $100, and that's about the cheapest you'll get paperless support for, unless you find someone who has no clue about what they're selling. Hope this helps! Later!

Garmin. Free maps, GLONASS support, and awesome customer support. Check GC.com, and see how many more garmins are owned than any other GPS. Later!

I'm assuming you to be using Windows. If you use another OS, the directions may need to be altered. 1. Ensure that your PC and GC are powered on. 2. Ensure that your PQ(s) are downloaded, and unzipped into a folder you can find. (I use a folder on my desktop.) 3. Plug the USB cable to the computer and GC. When the option window comes up, select "Connect to PC". 4. A window should pop up in Windows, that gives you options. Choose "Open Folder to View Files". 5. Navigate to the /Geocaches folder. Copy the PQ .gpx file here. 6. Navigate to the Waypoints folder. Copy the wpts.gpx file here. 7. Disconnect the cable, and the GC should restart. You should see all of your caches on the list. 8. Also of note, the GC will hold 10,000 caches. I, however, delete all of the gpx files in mine, and do a clean load every time. Easier for me to keep track of that way. Hope this helps! Later!

If memory serves, the screen is bigger on the 62. Other than that, no clue. Maybe they should look at a more marine oriented unit? Later!

I usually have it compile the map into the: * Combined image for direct manual placement on the GPS device (gmapsupp.img) Once you download that, you just copy the .img file onto your unit in the /Garmin folder. Or, you can make that folder on the SD card, and put it there. Later!

My bad then. I don't load the pictures, so I didn't equate that. Sorry!

To get all the information on the cache page (full discription, size, d/t, and logs) yes you must use a PQ. If all you want is the location and name (maybe d/t I don't remember) you can send from cache page to gps one cache at a time. But if I am not mistaken that function has not been working for awhile. Good news is you need no software to load the PQ just unzip and drag and drop to the correct folders (listed above). You can use any of several software products to load all the info plus the pictures from the cache page. So it is just what and how much information you want. Actually, you need no additional software to go completely paperless with the GC. Run your PQ, unzip it, and drop the files in the folders noted. You're done! I usually delete the old ones, and the found logs before I copy in a clean pq, since my found caches are filtered out of my pq's. Later!

For street routing, go to Open street map. For topos, go to www.gpsfiledepot.com. Later!

Heya all. I know there are some posts out there on this topic, and I've read several and followed links off the forum and such. I'm going to ask these few questions to make sure I have current info to decide with. For anyone willing to lend a hand, thanks. So, I got a 60CSx a couple of weeks ago, and thought I had the GSAK / POI Loader thing figured out. I ran through the process, and we left, for me to later discover there was a snafu, and I had no data. (We have an eXplorist GC that thankfully easily does paperless, so we were still able to cache.) After last weekend, I've pretty well decided that the accuracy of the thing is secondary to having the data. And, unless someone has a completely crayon style, idiot proof guide on how to make it work, I'm too lazy to learn how. So, here are some questions to help me decide how to move forward. 1. I know the iwhatever series of stuff has apps that work well with geocaching. I, however, am fairly anti-apple, and won't buy their stuff. Is it possible to do paperless with another type of mp3/media player, and if so, is there a specific type, or any that I get at Walmart should work? (I'm assuming one with a sizable screen, etc. I'm not referring to a shuffle type device.) 2. I know there is a lot of good caching stuff out there for Android platform devices. The phone I currently use has web access, but isn't a true smart phone. Eventually, I'll likely have an Android phone, which should solve this issue. Until then, will any Android powered device (netpad, etc.) work, and are there any special considerations other than the Android apps (GSAK, etc) to know about? 3. Would I be in about the same ballpark money wise to resell the 60, and buy a 62, or is there a capability that makes it worth the while to keep the 60. (Keep in mind, we had an Oregon 200, and were perfectly happy with it. I broke it, so now we're using the GC, and looking for a long term answer.) ok. Like I said, I know a lot of this stuff is out there. I'd like to get current info, and I asked a couple of things I wasn't able to find with reasonable search time. Thanks again, in advance, to anyone that's willing to help out. Later!

I've heard that people offset like that, and call it a puzzle cache. However, I can't think of any reason in the world to offset by 200 yards. Ever. So, to answer your question, yes, you should look for easier ones. A lot of people recommend staying at like 1.5/1.5 and under until you get comfortable finding them. Later!

that is some credible assessment there based on one picture...i sy is based on speculation Since I have 3 references that cover at least 5 additional images, I'm glad you actually read what I wrote. Just saying.