Jeep_Dog

I think that I would enjoy caching with you. You have character - and that is what caching is all about, u-turns or otherwise.

There is also the micro cache version that may not require copy shrinking: Micro cache version.

The topic up in the FAQs topics up at the top of the Getting Started is an excellent explanation by bons - How to add HTML to Your Cache Page While the explanation is for Cache Pages, it sure comes in handy for profiles as well!

Thank you, Paul! You just gave me the inspiration to add the following to my profile stats: DNF LOGS: 56 (and still going strong!) I appreciate DNFs just as much, if not more, than finds. Some of the more entertaining caching moments for me have been on DNFs! So, this probably serves as an answer to your OP. There are no hard-fast rules, but I would recommend leaving DNF logs - even for caches that were not there and have been archived. As Starbrand pointed out, a "did not find" is one regardless of the cache - you did not find it.

Good point, and perhaps one of the more pertinent ones (there's several other excellent posts as well) to RK - management of maintenance (at least online) can be as important as the actual maintenance. The difference between a note and a disable is perhaps the difference between suspecting a problem (but the cache is still there) and acknowledging a problem absolutely requiring maintenance. At first, I could not figure out this difference to which robert referred, but then realized that I had applied exactly this technique on this cache. Several folks have already addressed this one, I would just like to add that for some caches in remote areas, it does not matter if someone is 105 miles away or 10 miles away, those last 5 miles to the cache can make all the difference in "equalizing" the physical distance from residence to cache. Hence, your statement should merely have said "if I can't spend an hour or two to maintain it when needed, I won't place it," since depending on type of placement and what you consider a "worthy" geocache, the length of drive in some cases is completely moot.

This truly is a fun aspect. To avoid too many u-turns that seem to frustrate Alabama Rambler, I will look at available online maps to get an "overview" of roads - in other words, a general sense of how a town is arranged and the basic streets, which avoids some common mistakes of following the needle in a car. In the addition to the adventure of following the needle, I have found the following to be positive aspects of Starbrand's method: finding roads or neighborhoods I did not know existed even in a familar village/town/city an easier approach to the cache that would not have been apparent by a map search and "forcing" the route "nearest" caches enroute that did not seem "logical" during a route plan finding historical features/signs/buildings getting a feel of the cacher owner's home turf, which helps in understanding their mindset/view and hence finding the cache easier finding future cache hide potential spots! Your question is not even remotely stupid, by the way.

Thanks for the advice, hellbroker.

Yes, it is cheating. At least my boy managed to walk to the caches!!!!! You have set up an ambush for our two young 'uns to duke it own in forums 10 or so years from now. Well done. Cute little cacher you have there!! Congratulations!!!

Come on. Plain and simple, folks. It is against the guidelines. "Caches that Solicit Solicitations are off-limits. For example, caches perceived to be posted for religious, political, charitable or social agendas are not permitted. Geocaching is supposed to be a light, fun activity, not a gateway to hell."

SOUL CACHE (sung to the tune of Soul Train) Bronx vision, cache illegal cache demolition. Saturated savvy pins and GPS satellite collisions. New coordinates wave at you with the frozen batteries melting on a desert rock, Nudecacher’s on the trail, cut him in the logbook while I marinate mars on the scotch rocks. People all over the world (hop on the soul cache find) Hop on it (clap) clap your hands Just clap your hands and clap your hands and get down (Love) Love (Peace) Peace (Soul) Soul (Soul) Soul. People all over the world … clap your hands and get down. Soul Cache. Yea we cache pimp. Drag them on the trail. But we still don’t monkey around with the get down. Y’all got to understand we are talking about Magellans. Garmins say it with the waypoint name. We snatching souls from Geocaching dot com. Kumbaya my Lo’. People all over the world (hop on the soul cache find) Hop on it (clap) clap your hands Just clap your hands and clap your hands and get down (Love) Love (Peace) Peace (Soul) Soul (Soul) Soul. People all over the world … clap your hands and get down. Soul Cache. Stagger up the trail we going to walk. Snatch up the cache I kiss the clean side. Before I kiss you whip the Reviewer’s hide. Mama, I don’t want to hurt ‘um but daddy it’s like I Just went off, want to hit the caching trail. Get your coordinates now all log the find. People all over the world (hop on the soul cache find) Hop on it (clap) clap your hands Just clap your hands and clap your hands and get down (Love) Love (Peace) Peace (Soul) Soul (Soul) Soul. People all over the world … clap your hands and get down. Soul Cache.

It was not in your post. No rudeness - MY post was rude, and I had to kill it. Jholly, your post was a nice request for an avatar, and if Miz doesn't beat me to the task, I plan on working on it tomorrow or the day after. Now that it has caused angst, here's an explanation - my post reflected on that if I had a request for an avatar, and multiple folks gave it a try, I would thank ALL of them. That is often the case here. Yet, this comment is really not worth the time (or wasn't). Anyhoo - none of this is in regards to your post (just a silly happenstance of random placement), so my apologies!

edit: Returning rudeness with more rudeness ain't cool. I'm all grown up now.

Alright, here's your ho-ho-hippo. edit: man, beat me by two minutes. But, hey, I struggled with keeping his same background. edit 2: Taller version, hat not so scrunched. edit 3: Just saw the coin offer. If you pick either of the above, save on postage and give the coin to a deserving local cacher, give it away at the next event as a prize/gift, or activate it and give it a mission to catch up with me.

I agree FOB security is serious business. When I stated mayors were not concerned, I was referring strictly to concern about well-marked geocaches. All of the ones I encountered were either too small to be confused for anything dangerous and too small to attach nefarious devices such as you outline, or were big and quite obviously not a threat (complete with see-through containers). In any case, each and every one was VERY well marked and most of the large ones were regularly inspected by deployed (and dedicated) cachers. I agree with the importance of cache maintenance, especially removal and archival of caches on closed FOBs. I would assume that if you know of any of these, you bothered to contact the cache owner to verify, and if no verification indicated a "SBA?" Erik, who was the reviewer for one of the locations when I was there, is a phenomenal reviewer who keeps up with caches there very diligently. The handful of caches that I logged, and the associated tour to check on all the caches about once a week, in my last tour was one of the few things that kept my sanity intact. From the logs I read on caches over there, that is the same affect for folks over there now. I would be very disappointed if this thread or other discussion shut down that piece of "home," especially the caches that are fully supported by MWR and have appropriate permission from FOB mayors/governors.

I would like to help you in your glorious endeavor to fight the evil Reviewer regime. Unfortunately, within days of pawning my soul, I also liquidated my values. (proof positive of this last is that I immediately began logging virtuals in Germany and Austria) Now, should you establish a refrigerated cache whereupon I may hawk body parts, I would more than cheerfully chip in an arm and a leg and stand up (er ---- make that lie down) for my rights.

In an effort to actually answer the OP's question - People "lie" about their numbers since perhaps they cannot "stand" their numbers. Thank you. Please continue with the regularly scheduled angst.

Reference to Starbrand pointing out the software- You can find here on the Geocaching software resources page.

Hey, getting angsty (alright - suggestive) about grammar beats a micro hate-fest topic any day.

This is a great topic, Steve. I appreciate the highlight/discussion of issues you have brought to bear. Just a note on your last post - I think caches in Iraq/Afghanistan are in a completely different category than the overall scope of this discussion. For example, the caches I have placed in Iraq have the support/overhead of MWR, who endeavored to secure permission from FOB "mayors" (who could frankly care a less). In the cases over there, only folks authorized on FOBs can search the caches, and they are far less "dangerous" of a morale activity than say, a Toby Keith USO concert with loud speakers and lights.

For me, the point on Earth most distant from a cache is - anywhere within a 1 meter radius from GZ of a cleverly hidden micro.

I didn't question legitimacy. Slow and Zenful had nothing to do with it. Perhaps I should have added thus for those missing an attempt at humor:

The only discernable problem with micros that seems to have any relevance or consistency is their ability to create a minimum of 2 pages of discussion every other day when the micro topic arises.

If you have signed the logbook at the caches, then no problem at all. Just remember to log the find on the date you found the cache. Most cache owners will not have a problem with that - since when they go to their caches for maintenance and review the log and see that you have visited the cache.

Take the compass away from the Blonde, give it to a Brunette or Redhead, and problem solved.

Yeah, and right after she says that about "buried treasures", she tells us how much fun it is. As if she has any idea!!! I believe her geocaching name is Mitsuko.